posted December 23, 2011 08:36 AM            

What is been said is that having planets in the 5th and non in the 8th will make you feel more comfortable about having sex for pleasure without bonding involved.

posted December 23, 2011 08:49 AM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:

What is been said is that having planets in the 5th and non in the 8th will make you feel more comfortable about having sex for pleasure without bonding involved.

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Isn't that the same as casual, though? Might be a semantic thing. Certain words are I guess heavily colored by connotations (which might vary, vary person to person).

I don't think anyone was responding because someone 'said' something explicitly. But, we were more so just expressing that the 'without bonding involved' part just didn't apply to us or we weren't so comfortable with the notion in the general context of the discussion. In a way, just adding another dimension for consideration from our experience of the placement(s).

EDIT: Or at least, that is what I was expressing.

posted December 23, 2011 09:18 AM            

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Originally posted by appleberry:
I also have this combination and don't like casual meaningless sex. It's strange that everyone identifies Aqua 5 with casual sex... I never want casual nor many partners. I long for stability, intimacy and commitment.
However, I have no planets in the 8th, Sun, Moon, and Chiron in the 7th Aries, and in the 5th I have: Jupiter conj Mercury , Venus conj Juno (0* orb), as well as Ceres, Eros, Pholus, and Pax... 2 Stelliums in Aqua and Pisces.

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The ruler of your 8th house is Venus and your Venus conjuncts Juno by 0 orb, that is why sex to you has to involve commitment inspite of all the planets in the 5th.

posted December 23, 2011 11:01 AM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
I agree with this and live by it:

At the positive end of the spectrum, we can actually heal others (or be healed by them) via sexual interaction. In your case, if you had sex with someone who had a lower vibration than yours, with the right approach you may raise that person to YOUR vibrational level.
http://www.muse-net.com/may2906.html

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Wow! This article was MOST fascinating! I'll have to give it a couple of reads, really interesting material.

posted December 23, 2011 11:35 AM              

I guess we can simply come to the conclusion that we have very different perspectives when it comes to discussing sex. Our views, values and perceptions shape the way we experience things including sex. If you're a very spiritual person I suppose you'd experience a sexual connection potently through your spirituality. I'm highly skeptical of spiritualism and all faith and religious practices therefore I don't share a spiritually induced perception of sexuality. I try to view sex for what it is, free from any added existential meaning or spiritual interpretations.

posted December 23, 2011 02:00 PM            

anyone know what uranus in scorpio in the 8th house means?

or jupiter in leo (rx) in 5th house?

and just for sh**s and giggles - pluto in libra, 7th house...

posted December 23, 2011 02:13 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:

What is been said is that having planets in the 5th and non in the 8th will make you feel more comfortable about having sex for pleasure without bonding involved.
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Originally posted by RedScorp:

Commitment and merging and all that other stuff scares me. I have a barren Eighth House.

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In reference to the above quotes...I'm still fairly new to this so i'm trying to learn. The best way for me is to compare to my own chart. I only have Chiron in my 8th house (Gemini) but my 6th is packed with sun, moon, and jupiter (aries), only mercury in 5th (pisces). I have zero commitment problems (in fact, quite the opposite) and found that the sex i've had with people I didn't love was unfulfilling and I have no desire for it.I have problems seperating sex from emotions and love. I do have Venus trine mars in my 7th house (Taurus), can that have something to do with it?? I read that saturn relates to commitment could it be my saturn trine moon, sun, mercury, jupiter in the 6th??

posted December 23, 2011 02:20 PM            

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Originally posted by saya_sar:
In reference to the above quotes...I'm still fairly new to this so i'm trying to learn. The best way for me is to compare to my own chart. I only have Chiron in my 8th house (Gemini) but my 6th is packed with sun, moon, and jupiter (aries), only mercury in 5th (pisces). I have zero commitment problems (in fact, quite the opposite) and found that the sex i've had with people I didn't love was unfulfilling and I have no desire for it.I have problems seperating sex from emotions and love. I do have Venus trine mars in my 7th house (Taurus), can that have something to do with it?? I read that saturn relates to commitment could it be my saturn trine moon, sun, mercury, jupiter in the 6th??

Oh AND! I am a very sexual being, as long as it feels good i'm down. >.<

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posted December 23, 2011 02:50 PM            

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Originally posted by FireWire:
I've read some VERY interesting and intense things about Chiron in the 8th. Care to share any insight on that?

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I'm not sure how to answer that because I dont really understand what areas of my personality it would affect. I've done all sorts of research but not much of it seemed to apply to me. I know chiron is "wounded healer" and the area in our life that has to do with inner wounds that we hold on to. Being in the 8th house I would think it has to do with relationship sex (like this thread says), transformation, rebirth, etc...I just don't know how I feel it personally. Sorry =( Maybe I haven't yet??

On second glance I looked up Chiron in Gemini and that seems more fitting. I tend to have problems communicating effectively even when I fully understand my point. Its hard for me to convey it in words that make sense to others. Throughout my life I often felt misunderstood only in the end to find that we were thinking the same thing but they didnt understand my way of wording it. I like to say I speak in my own language. So that might be it, but then how does the 8th house come into play?

posted December 23, 2011 04:30 PM            

Sometimes it irks me,every occasion I get to discuss it,people somehow end up deciphering financial aspects of this position. Surely,H8 Jupiter can be more of a fun

posted December 23, 2011 05:53 PM            

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Originally posted by saya_sar:
I'm not sure how to answer that because I dont really understand what areas of my personality it would affect. I've done all sorts of research but not much of it seemed to apply to me. I know chiron is "wounded healer" and the area in our life that has to do with inner wounds that we hold on to. Being in the 8th house I would think it has to do with relationship sex (like this thread says), transformation, rebirth, etc...I just don't know how I feel it personally. Sorry =( Maybe I haven't yet??

On second glance I looked up Chiron in Gemini and that seems more fitting. I tend to have problems communicating effectively even when I fully understand my point. Its hard for me to convey it in words that make sense to others. Throughout my life I often felt misunderstood only in the end to find that we were thinking the same thing but they didnt understand my way of wording it. I like to say I speak in my own language. So that might be it, but then how does the 8th house come into play?

Chiron is opposite Saturn and Uranus (2nd house). Sextile Sun and Mercury( 6 and 5th house respectively).

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Interesting I have Chiron in Gemini as well and can relate to what you are saying except that I feel lately I am actually getting better in this area. My chiron though falls in the 6th and I have to say I feel the most inhibited with communication at work but not if the field has to do with healing somehow such as counseling which is what I am studying.

posted January 06, 2012 03:50 PM            

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Originally posted by scrappydog:
I have venus and jupiter in 5th and squaring neptune in 8th, I think 5th is more about dating, fun, entertainment, where 8th is about true bonding, sex, and the "little death".

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posted January 06, 2012 04:21 PM            

Moon=in Scorpio in 7th house
Pluto=in Scorpio in 7th house (they're conjunct)

What does this mean? I know I don't do casual sex/attachment well and that I am very emotionally attached in sex.. I guess I have to see a future together to even want to date/sleep with someone..

If I throw in the traditional ruler of Scorpio, Mars, that's in my 2nd House.. erm, um, I'm not that kind of working girl! ;-)

posted January 09, 2012 12:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Something I wrote about 5th and 8th house some years ago:

"8th house is a water house, naturally ruled by Scorpio and Pluto. It`s really deep stuff happening there.
Also, it is part of the relationship quadrant, where relationship gets committed and official and - of course - intimate.

The 5th house is part of the emotional quadrant (on the half that represents the "Self") which relates quite strongly to the self of a person (because it is about the person`s feelings and emotions and expressions not the partner`s). Also let`not forget the Sun is the natural ruler of that house. It is pretty much selfcentred, which is not necessarily bad. IT can be actually very attractive and romantic.
In the 5th house I "love" (maybe it is more about attraction than love though) someone else because he makes me feel alive and good with myself. And I like to express my affection openly (depending on influences to the 5th house). It`s maybe the most expressive house there is.

In the 8th house there is also a note of "sacrifice". Like Pluto this house (or influences relating to it) wants to transform you,a nd transforming always includes to sacrifice something (ideally something that you don`t need anymore and have to let go of to grow).

Sex in this house is not a tool of "selfaffirmation" of making you just feel alive in yourself, but it`s a way to experience something ancient, something that is "bigger" than you. A very deep and scary experience (and fears are also connected to the 8th house as is death; and really, sex here has something to do with dying, or rather with complete surrender; you surrender to a feeling, to another person, completely, even though it`s clear that this will leave everything changed).

The 8th house shows your commitment, your desire to merge with someone or something, your passions and deep intimate (sexual) relations.

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Hi Ceridwen

Thanks for your explanation. Can you please tell me if someone has:
Scorpio Sun/Mars, Cancer Moon, Capricorn Venus, Sagittarius Rising with 5th house in Aries and 8th house in Cancer, are they inclined to want to have a committed relationship.

posted January 09, 2012 12:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Something I wrote about 5th and 8th house some years ago:

"8th house is a water house, naturally ruled by Scorpio and Pluto. It`s really deep stuff happening there.
Also, it is part of the relationship quadrant, where relationship gets committed and official and - of course - intimate.

The 5th house is part of the emotional quadrant (on the half that represents the "Self") which relates quite strongly to the self of a person (because it is about the person`s feelings and emotions and expressions not the partner`s). Also let`not forget the Sun is the natural ruler of that house. It is pretty much selfcentred, which is not necessarily bad. IT can be actually very attractive and romantic.
In the 5th house I "love" (maybe it is more about attraction than love though) someone else because he makes me feel alive and good with myself. And I like to express my affection openly (depending on influences to the 5th house). It`s maybe the most expressive house there is.

In the 8th house there is also a note of "sacrifice". Like Pluto this house (or influences relating to it) wants to transform you,a nd transforming always includes to sacrifice something (ideally something that you don`t need anymore and have to let go of to grow).

Sex in this house is not a tool of "selfaffirmation" of making you just feel alive in yourself, but it`s a way to experience something ancient, something that is "bigger" than you. A very deep and scary experience (and fears are also connected to the 8th house as is death; and really, sex here has something to do with dying, or rather with complete surrender; you surrender to a feeling, to another person, completely, even though it`s clear that this will leave everything changed).

The 8th house shows your commitment, your desire to merge with someone or something, your passions and deep intimate (sexual) relations.

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Hi Ceridwen

Thanks for your explanation. Can you please tell me if someone has:
Scorpio Sun/Mars, Cancer Moon, Capricorn Venus, Sagittarius Rising with 5th house in Aries and 8th house in Cancer, are they inclined to want to have a committed relationship.

posted January 09, 2012 12:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Neptune'sDaughter:
5th House Cusp=Cancer, Ruler=Moon
8th House Cusp=Scorpio, Ruler=Pluto

Moon=in Scorpio in 7th house
Pluto=in Scorpio in 7th house (they're conjunct)

What does this mean? I know I don't do casual sex/attachment well and that I am very emotionally attached in sex.. I guess I have to see a future together to even want to date/sleep with someone..

If I throw in the traditional ruler of Scorpio, Mars, that's in my 2nd House.. erm, um, I'm not that kind of working girl! ;-)

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posted January 09, 2012 01:10 PM            

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Originally posted by imogyne:
Scorpio Sun/Mars, Cancer Moon, Capricorn Venus, Sagittarius Rising with 5th house in Aries and 8th house in Cancer, are they inclined to want to have a committed relationship.

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Yes, this is quite possible. Except for the Sag rising, these are all very emotional and committed placement with an unwillingness to let go.
ONce they are in a committed relationship, they are probably very devoted.
But since they know about forming deep emotional attachment, it might be that they are careful whom to let close and so it might take a while for them to trust you enough to commit to you. But once they do, it is really deeply felt.

Though I would also check how Jupiter is placed, as it is the chartruler.

posted January 09, 2012 08:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yes, this is quite possible. Except for the Sag rising, these are all very emotional and committed placement with an unwillingness to let go.
ONce they are in a committed relationship, they are probably very devoted.
But since they know about forming deep emotional attachment, it might be that they are careful whom to let close and so it might take a while for them to trust you enough to commit to you. But once they do, it is really deeply felt.

Though I would also check how Jupiter is placed, as it is the chartruler.

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Also, conjunctions, squares or oppositions to Uranus of these could modify it a little.

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HI Ceridwen

Thanks for your reply. I don't know his time of birth but have read previous posts and threads by other moderators and have guessed his rising is Sag. This is his natal chart based on his birthday. Can you give me a little more information. Thank you.

posted January 13, 2012 05:16 PM              

to me definately being a modern astrologer, 8th house is house of Sex and conception..

posted January 13, 2012 05:56 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Neptune'sDaughter:
[b]5th House Cusp=Cancer, Ruler=Moon
8th House Cusp=Scorpio, Ruler=Pluto

Moon=in Scorpio in 7th house
Pluto=in Scorpio in 7th house (they're conjunct)

What does this mean? I know I don't do casual sex/attachment well and that I am very emotionally attached in sex.. I guess I have to see a future together to even want to date/sleep with someone..

If I throw in the traditional ruler of Scorpio, Mars, that's in my 2nd House.. erm, um, I'm not that kind of working girl! ;-)

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Thank you :-)

posted January 13, 2012 06:16 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
What is the difference between the 5th house and 8th house when it comes to sex??

In your opinion which house would affect sexual expression the most? or are both equally important with sexual expression?

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posted January 13, 2012 08:31 PM            

8th is deep orgasm, 8th is related to the sexual organs, freak sex - but with deep feelings involved! It's more feminine (as girls have stronger orgasms than man and after sex feel more emotionally connected.)