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Topic: Unaspected moon in synastry?
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peachbeigeblue Knowflake Posts: 1655 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted August 07, 2012 04:29 PM
How might it affect a relationship or the person with an unaspected moon in the synastry chart? And I mean add aspects to all - so no NN, chiron, or angle aspects either. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 3744 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 07, 2012 04:36 PM
Of course the overall picture needs to be taken into account, but in general it doesn`t bode well for the emotional connection.IP: Logged |
Lava Flower Knowflake Posts: 202 From: Registered: Feb 2012
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posted August 07, 2012 05:03 PM
You should see if the composite moon, or Venus are conjunct the persons natal sun or moon. In synastry with someone I am very deeply emotionally involved with, my moon is TOTALLY unaspected except for an inconjunct to his ASC. But the composite moon is conjunct my sun. IP: Logged |
Lava Flower Knowflake Posts: 202 From: Registered: Feb 2012
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posted August 07, 2012 05:05 PM
Did you check the minor aspects? Those aren't so minor when within 1* orb. Also sun/moon midpoint because that kills two birds with one stone IP: Logged |
peachbeigeblue Knowflake Posts: 1655 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted August 07, 2012 06:23 PM
His sun moon midpoint is 10 degrees from our composite sun (Leo/aqua 6) His sun moon midpoint is also 6 degrees from my natal sun/8 from my mercury his sun moon midpoint also makes other aspects. Like squares my natal moon and Pluto (as my sun does) his midpoint also would trine my mars by 2 degrees and sextile (or well trine for aqua) my Jupiter by 4 degrees His natal Venus and my natal Venus are both conjunct the composite Venus. Basically his natal sun is 21 degrees Leo and natal moon is 21 degrees cancer. My natal sun is 12 degrees Leo and natal moon is 12 degrees Taurus. So our composite sun is 16 Leo composite moon 16 Gemini. My Venus is 28 Gemini. His is 13 cancer. Composite Venus is Cancer 5. But wait our composite sun moon midpoint would obviously be at 16 cancer which would be a loose conjunction to his natal moon. Do you think that helps? IP: Logged |
Lava Flower Knowflake Posts: 202 From: Registered: Feb 2012
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posted August 07, 2012 06:36 PM
Honestly, I'm no expert, but I would say yes because astrology is symbolic above all. For example, my loves NN is completely unaspected through synastry while mine is conjunct his Jupiter and the composite sun-Venus right on top. At first glance it looks like only the composite Jupiter is 2 degrees away from his NN, But on a closer look, the composite sun-moon midpoint is conjunct his NN and our relationship has had a great impact on his evolution. IP: Logged |
Lava Flower Knowflake Posts: 202 From: Registered: Feb 2012
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posted August 07, 2012 06:39 PM
Also, they say planet overlaying the 4th house can make up for lack of moon aspects. All the water houses are deep, the 4th is supportive rather than uncomfortable like the other two can be.IP: Logged |
peachbeigeblue Knowflake Posts: 1655 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted August 07, 2012 06:41 PM
Hey thank you so much for your feedback. It just occurred to me my AC also makes a 9 degree trine to his moon and my NN makes a 7 degree trine. I know that's wide but it makes me feel a little betterIP: Logged |
peachbeigeblue Knowflake Posts: 1655 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted August 07, 2012 06:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lava Flower: Also, they say planet overlaying the 4th house can make up for lack of moon aspects. All the water houses are deep, the 4th is supportive rather than uncomfortable like the other two can be.
Ok that makes sense. My Venus and sun/moon midpoint are in his 4th and my vertex is conjunct his IC by 13 minutes. Phew! IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 3744 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 08, 2012 05:53 AM
Check for the ruler of 4th house as well (btw 4th house can feel VERY uncomfortable; it simply depends on how comfortable you are with letting someone close to you, cause if you let someone into the 4th house, you let them into your soul).Aspects with midpoints (only hard ones, orb maximal 2 degrees). I wouldnīt count a 9 degree trine at all, BUT I would take into account the elemental basis of Moon and especially Sun, Moon, Venus and ASC. If you speak the same languages int his regard (or at least compatible ones) this could be VERY helpful.
Two Moons in air will always have something in common, even though if they are lacking an aspectual connection (though of course an aspect would strengthen that bond). Apart from that, yes, Sun/Moon-mp VERY important, as are tight conjunctions of the composite to the natal Moons.
Also check the progressed Moons. IP: Logged |
peachbeigeblue Knowflake Posts: 1655 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted August 08, 2012 12:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Check for the ruler of 4th house as well (btw 4th house can feel VERY uncomfortable; it simply depends on how comfortable you are with letting someone close to you, cause if you let someone into the 4th house, you let them into your soul).
The ruler of his fourth house is Mercury. His Mercury is conjunct my Mercury by 1 degree Conjunct my Sun by 3 degrees Square my moon by 3 Square my pluto by 6 quote: Aspects with midpoints (only hard ones, orb maximal 2 degrees).I wouldnīt count a 9 degree trine at all, BUT I would take into account the elemental basis of Moon and especially Sun, Moon, Venus and ASC. If you speak the same languages int his regard (or at least compatible ones) this could be VERY helpful. Two Moons in air will always have something in common, even though if they are lacking an aspectual connection (though of course an aspect would strengthen that bond).
His progressed Sun/Moon midpoint is conjunct our Composite Sun by 13 minutes. 16 39 Apart from that, yes, Sun/Moon-mp VERY important, as are tight conjunctions of the composite to the natal Moons. Also check the progressed Moons. [/B][/QUOTE] Our progressed composite sun/moon midpoint is conjunct his progressed moon by 18 minutes. Progressed Composite moon is sextile his natal moon by 1 degree. Progressed composite Venus is conjunct his sun/moon midpoint by 4 and conjunct his natal moon by 11 (I know, i know - i'm reaching) My progressed Moon is trine his natal moon by 2 degrees. My progressed venus is conjunct his natal moon by 2 degrees. His progressed moon is at 16 cancer which is sextile my natal moon by 4 degrees. His progressed chart vs my progressed chart His p. moon conjunct my p. venus by 3 degrees. His p. moon trine my p. moon by 7 degrees (I am only sharing the moon aspects) His progressed moon sextile composite moon by 4 degrees. If I am doing this correctly - My progressed sun/moon midpoint is as Gemini/Sag 14.49 so his progressed moon would be quincunx by 1 degree. Do you count quincunx? ------------- Elementally HIM Fire Sun Water Moon Water Venus Water ASC ME Fire Sun Earth Moon Air Venus Water ASC Progressed Elements HIM Earth Sun Water Moon Fire Venus Earth ASC ME Earth Sun Water Moon Water Venus Fire ASC -- As far as comfort is concerned I felt very comfortable from the moment I met him. We actually started officially dating after 5 days of meeting. He met my parents within the first week. I have never dated someone so quickly. I have no problem saying anything to him. Although I care a lot about my hair and makeup - I admitted to him I wear sports bras 95% of the time for comfort recently. It's silly actually. We did not kiss until the third time I met him by the way and we didn't sleep together until after we were in a relationship. Although everything happened rather quickly. I can kind of see that sometimes he does not want to tell me ****** things about his day right away and it could be his Leo pride or perhaps the unaspected moon. We also have DW Venus Trine Pluto in synastry and also in the composite. Sometimes I feel like I will spend the rest of my life with him. And sometimes I don't want to talk to him. But probably still want to spend the rest of my life with him. In the beginning especially, we fought a lot since we were still getting to know eachother and moved so quickly. By the way - in general I never jump into relationships with my natal Venus opposite Saturn. I am so tempted to post the charts, you seem to know so much Thank you so much for your help. It lead me to look for more than I usually do and will allow me to use these suggestions when I look at others' compatability. IP: Logged |
peachbeigeblue Knowflake Posts: 1655 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted August 08, 2012 12:21 PM
Here's another general question to anyone - if one personl has an Unaspected mood - would the other person being cold to them or icing them out be worse for the person with Unaspected moon? Or maybe not affect them much bc their moon isn't aspected?IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 3744 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 08, 2012 12:53 PM
My Moon is unaspected except for a quinkunx to Saturn. It still is not a good thing if my Moon is unaspected in synastry. As a matter of fact it is easier to access my own feelings more consciously, if another person aspects my Moon. If my Moon is synastrically unaspected, I am not there, emotionally I mean.
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peachbeigeblue Knowflake Posts: 1655 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted August 08, 2012 01:19 PM
Yeah that makes sense. When I first started seeing him my moon was like "what" because his only earth is in Neptune. My only earth is my moon and Neptune. I didnt feel grounded bc I usually date predominantly earth people. Or at least in their sun or moon. My moon only squares his mars, Jupiter and mercury. I'm assuming my Juno is too minor? It's 6 degrees away from his natal moon. IP: Logged |
peachbeigeblue Knowflake Posts: 1655 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted August 08, 2012 01:37 PM
I just went through my astro databank and with my boyfriend before my current one - my moon was Unaspected. But our composite sun/mercury/venus trineed my moon by 4 to 5 degrees. I cared for him very much but didn't nessecarily feel safe. He was also cheating on me. So that could have been it IP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 8421 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 09, 2012 04:32 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lava Flower: In synastry with someone I am very deeply emotionally involved with, my moon is TOTALLY unaspected except for an inconjunct to his ASC. But the composite moon is conjunct my sun.
Yay for composite to natal synastry.
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 3744 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 09, 2012 05:24 AM
Peach,u newith all the other testimonies I donīt think you need to be worried about the unaspected Moon. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 3744 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 09, 2012 06:09 AM
Peach,"The ruler of his fourth house is Mercury. His Mercury is conjunct my Mercury by 1 degree Conjunct my Sun by 3 degrees Square my moon by 3 Square my pluto by 6" Especially the conjunctions deliver a very strong piccture here, it even includes a conjunction of his 4th house ruler to your Sun! And the conjunction to your Mercury is probably a great asset to be able to talk about what is going on inside of him. The squares might add some tension and friction,b ut the Pluto-square is really on the wide side, so I donīt think it will be so prominent. (Is Pluto angular natally or synastrically? Planets in the angles often seem to be more forefront than others). "His progressed Sun/Moon midpoint is conjunct our Composite Sun by 13 minutes. 16 39" this gives a very intimate connection to your relationship.
"Progressed Composite moon is sextile his natal moon by 1 degree. Progressed composite Venus is conjunct his sun/moon midpoint by 4 and conjunct his natal moon by 11 (I know, i know - i'm reaching) " Well, the 11 degree is reaching. lol But the others suffice already to show that currently this relationship is extremely important to him and probably generally as well, as it is not only the progressed composite linking to his Moon or Sun/Moon-mp-
BTW I also like to check for Moon/Venus-mp as it combines the soft and loving energies in a chart. it makes for much tenderness. Midpoints are underestimated anyway. Ever noticed what happens when someone`s conjuncts or opposed your Venus/Mars, Venus/Pluto or Mars/Pluto- mp? "My progressed Moon is trine his natal moon by 2 degrees. My progressed venus is conjunct his natal moon by 2 degrees. " Very nice. Is it applying? Well, the progressed Moon is of course quickly moving, so it might act as a trigger, but might not be there eternally. But as long asi it is it is very very nice.
For me it is a good timer. Whatever is there in the background of the progressed synastry often seems to be "awakened" through the aspects of pr Moon. Well, I have an interesting time as pr Moon moves through my 7th house and right now is opposing my natal Sun. "f I am doing this correctly - My progressed sun/moon midpoint is as Gemini/Sag 14.49 so his progressed moon would be quincunx by 1 degree. Do you count quincunx? " No.
The big midpoint aspects are conjunction and opposition - these are direct midpoints and Rob Hand sais that these can be just as strong as major aspects. So ignor at your own risk. lol Then there are squares, which really are the midpoint of the midpoint axis. lol And most midpoint astrologers also consider semisquare and sesisquare.
I do so, too, but see it as a watered down aspect. The strongest are ocnjunction/ opposition, then next strongest square, and after that semisquare / sesisquare. Though having said that there are some midpoints through semisquare in my own chart that resonate SO MUCH with me. Actually I once did a little survey here on LL (which glitched - naturally. lol), and interestingly almost all people could identify with the midpoints-semisquare/ sesisquare. I did not expect that. "lementally HIM Fire Sun Water Moon Water Venus Water ASC ME Fire Sun Earth Moon Air Venus Water ASC" Water and Earth Moon are pretty compatible. They feed each other and are very supportive. Probably you need to look out for your Venus in Air, and if you receive the right validation you need, as neither his Moon nor Venus share your "language". Though his Fire Sun might help a bit int his regard. And of course Mercury aspects in the synastry. "Progressed Elements HIM Earth Sun Water Moon Fire Venus Earth ASC ME Earth Sun Water Moon Water Venus Fire ASC" Very convincing. Both water Moons that gives much common ground. Also the meeting of validation needs might not be an issue currently, as your Venus positions compared with the natal ones are nicely balanced. IP: Logged |