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hannaramaa
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posted January 10, 2013 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How to connect with Mercury in Virgo? This girl at work is a Leo with Mercury in Virgo. I was being myself (which is trying to make others laugh) and I could tell it just wasn't clicking, so I stopped. But the night was sooooooooo boring. We had many 45 minute increments of silence. She would try to make conversation but then it wasn't clicking for me (Mercury in Aries). I have to train with her again tonight - what to do? 8 HOURS, people. 8 hours of awkward silence.

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posted January 10, 2013 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I BET that inside she's laughing at the awkwardness...and she'll keep on pushing that same button...until she's bored.

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posted January 10, 2013 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you own an iPad/Pod ? she shouldn't be a necessity or involved in your fun routine.

You don't have to try hard to click with her in order to kill the boredom as it could be even more boring and painfully awkward.

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posted January 10, 2013 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vickymadness:
Do you own an iPad/Pod ? she shouldn't be a necessity or involved in your fun routine.

You don't have to try hard to click with her in order to kill the boredom as it could be even more boring and painfully awkward.


Oh definitely. And I didn't. I wasn't like Sally on Grease going "TELL ME MORE, TELL ME MORE! LIKE DID HE HAVE A CAR?" I can pick up social cues, rofl. I just hung out on Lindaland and played Tetris on my computer. She would walk by and say something like "Oh, you working your brain out?" Because apparently, unbeknownst to me, they created Tetris for patients who'd just had brain operations as a strengthening exercise. And then it's like "Yeah," and then silence.

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posted January 10, 2013 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've had some experience with this combo~ Leo Sun/Virgo Merc, and several Virgo Sun/Virgo Merc women!

I find they take awhile to open up and feel comfortable with new people, in my experience, even after asking exactly what was wrong... thinking I'd offended them somehow (all my Sadge influence contradicts my Capricorn Merc, I lack a sense of timing usually, and often exceed the boundaries without realizing it), and they (several of them that I had to ask forthright) openly admitted that they felt an initial "distrust" with communicating with others, and uncomfortable making small talk... they felt they were imposing by asking questions, especially personal kinds... ^^; I'm all Water/Fire split down the middle mostly, so I can tell ya', first thing I want to do with reserved folks is shake them outta their shell... which can be threatening,and suspicious to these initially quiet folks... XD I stress "initially"... 'cause especially the Leo/Virgo ladies.. they really became shocking after the lid was opened... lol

I love conversing with Virgo Merc people, either way, it just takes time... but once things start rolling and they get over their initial dread... lol things do get silly and even a bit... dare I say it... "risque"...

virgo duality~ lol such kinky buggers some of em.... <3 they really can surprise you... (this is coming from a Cap Sun/Merc!)

But, I just enjoy having the 12h (Leo/Virgo) and 1h (Virgo) energy around... things tend to be smooth sailing for people who have placements that fall into those houses... (women more so than males... iunno but,male energy in my 12h is not such a happy harmony in the long run...)

Give her some time to come around, it might suck at first, but she's probably just intimidated, or uncertain with how far she can or should go... it's Mercury's domain... right? So, she's likely got a lot to say, either way... and, then you'll end up wanting to know how to get her to shut it... XD (Virgo rising->Merc Ruler->Merc dominant) ~ I like mercurial, mercurials... haha

Keep joking around with her~ when she cracks a smile, tease her about it a bit... then, follow up with a genuine compliment of some kind... then, watch the self-reservations melt away~ <3 (Leo Sun/Virgo Mercs!!) <3 haha

I wonder which house her Sun/Merc are in... (I know you can't know that, yet! lol but, I'm just curious~! hah)

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posted January 10, 2013 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturnine, I have to say your experiences sound similar to this! I can definitely sense her reserved nature, but I also should've known she was a fire sign. Every time the hot construction boys came around she was basking in the spotlight and I could hardly get a word in edgewise, LOL. When I found out she was a Leo I laughed to myself. Even older Leos seem (note, I said "seem") to be intimidated easy. She did open up a little bit about her past (she married young and got divorced). But I think she looks at me like I'm a "princess" kind of girl whereas she's more artsy and nerdy. We laughed about the missing connections section on Craigslist but if I tried to relate back to it, she wouldn't pay attention. Shrug. It's not like everyone has to be my best friend right off the bat but I guess that's the vibe I give off LOL.

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posted January 10, 2013 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lmao ~ what were you doin with the missing connections section of Craigslist!?

nah! I'm the same with everyone, I want immediate friendship, and I act out like a centaur more than a goat then... too much quiet, or too little interaction makes me revert into a solo-mode and it's easy to get stuck in the earthling-spiral of melancholy then... so, I'd rather be forward, even if it's OTT, even if I trip over my own feet and turn into a fool~ if it keeps the hours from dragging on, and prevents your mind from wandering inward too far, (cause when you're alone that's kinda what happens I think, right... we start looking into ourselves a bit too much... earth mercs, moons, suns... esp... you have an earth moon right? ^^ I think I remember it's Taurus too...no?) then, it's better to keep busy.... having fire or air around, or making up for it with having fire/air friends helps a ton~ but, communications can suffer, with squares... haha >.< (sun/moon, moon/merc, sun/merc, sun/sun, moon/moon, merc/merc I mean for communicating!lol)

She seems Leolike very much~ esp if she walked off on ya! XD <3 I had a great Leo boss with the Virgo Merc placement, she was.... somethin... I thought her husband was the recklessly pervy-horndog of the two... until one day.... she just set off on some spiel about this, that and the other guy who was working at one of the places we had to work as well.... out of nowhere.... like a teenager! @_@ I was already really fond of her peculiar Leonine habits... but, this was the first time I saw her sorta' youthful, girlishness... idk what to call it! hah And, then she'd do the exact same thing... we'd bump into each other out on the floor while working... one or the other would make some mundane statement, then we'd have a brief conversation.... but, the second you try to put in something on your mind, or add something different... she'd take off all nonchalant... as if you hadn't even said anything after that point... *leoscannothidedisinterest* *leosliketheirowninterestsmostly* haahaha

I had a lot of really weird experiences working with her... plus she got me into astrology more, especially having introduced me to Linda Goodman... haha She was a whirlwind type of person... I have no idea where her energy came from or how she could focus on so much at once, and yet be so off the wall, never walking a straight line... Oo; I think she rubbed off on me a lot....

Most of the fire sign people I've known have rubbed off on me a lot!! haha ~ ....going off topic... changing tangents at random...haha I swear my Mercury is actually /in/ Sagittarius sometimes... lol (1°0'20" Cap... sorta close) haha x.x

I wish ya luck~ she'll open up more... and, then you'll be having those weird, spontaneous discussions, and wondering where the time went... lol >.<; (if my old boss didn't wander off, I wonder if we would have gotten any work done??!?) lol

Good luck! <333

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posted January 10, 2013 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyFavouriteName     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have this combo, i understand your frustration, i feel the same way about myself! my venus libra.. wants.. ariesness! so does my moon..

but my mars and mercury in virgo are just the wrong candidates to go-get.

dont take it personally.

she might like you. don't give up.

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posted January 10, 2013 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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i have this combo, i understand your frustration, i feel the same way about myself! my venus libra.. wants.. ariesness! so does my moon..

but my mars and mercury in virgo are just the wrong candidates to go-get.

dont take it personally.

she might like you. don't give up.


Right? I mean I think I have a good hand in this because I'm normal and not like the last girl she had to train (who was a trainwreck and open about it to customers)

I'm not giving up, but the dismissiveness I find really odd. I don't know how to react to that. (I mean her not replying to something I say when she obviously heard me)

Do you have anxiety? All the Virgo influenced people I know have it.

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posted January 10, 2013 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyFavouriteName     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Right? I mean I think I have a good hand in this because I'm normal and not like the last girl she had to train (who was a trainwreck and open about it to customers)

I'm not giving up, but the dismissiveness I find really odd. I don't know how to react to that. (I mean her not replying to something I say when she obviously heard me)

Do you have anxiety? All the Virgo influenced people I know have it.


yeah, i do have anxiousness at times

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posted January 10, 2013 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These people can be withdrawn. I knew a Leo Sun with a Mercury in Virgo also and they could be very communicatively withdrawn at times. Sometimes they were so silent that I figured they weren't interested in what I had to say. Also, they had really horrible anxiety so maybe that is a factor in this situation? Just like a poster said above me, Virgoan influenced people can have bad anxiety. I noticed that this Leonine person was WAY less outgoing than other Leos I knew and I found he had 3 Virgo planets, Mars too. He was just reticent sometimes and standoffish because he didn't want to say the wrong thing.

Also, Virgoan influenced people take WORK very seriously. Maybe the fact that you two are working is why she is so taciturn and withdrawn. I saw this guy I mentioned a lot at his job during the day and when he was doing intense work, he'd take it SO seriously and be very curt/aloof when I tried to make small talk. Maybe that's it?

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posted January 10, 2013 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StacyLewis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can I be honest with you without you taking it the wrong way?

I wonder how much of your issues with Leo people, have to do with your own biases, hang-ups, and negative expectations of the sign.

Let me finish LOL.

I've noticed a lot around here that you tend to make a lot of 'interesting' comments about Leos (they're easily intimidated, totally lack empathy, need attention on them at all times), and complain alot about them and that you think they don't like you.

Truth is, people pick up on things on a nonverbal level. If you already have your mind made up that because someone is this or that sign, that they're going to be a jerk or difficult to deal with, or that you're going to have a negative interaction with them, or that they have a series of extremely negative traits...people pick up on that type of thing on a subconscious level and it makes them respond to you funny.

It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy type of thing. And if you're giving off those vibes subconsciously...like, a Leo isn't going to jump hoops to try and bridge a gap with someone they're getting those types of vibes from. We'll just give up on you and go icy. I know firsthand because I am one (Leo sun, Mercury, NN). When people approach me like that, or I get weird vibes from them, I kinda mentally strike them off the list and stop even trying to make an effort with them. It's not an intimidation thing. The girl probably just isn't trying with you anymore because she can already see that it's a waste of time and that you're determined on some level to view her in a negative way right from the beginning.

If I were her I would've pulled out my phone on you almost immediately and played Fruit Ninja all night long or something LOL.

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posted January 10, 2013 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgolotus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Once you open her up she's gonna be a chatterbox :X

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posted January 10, 2013 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Can I be honest with you without you taking it the wrong way?

I wonder how much of your issues with Leo people, have to do with your own biases, hang-ups, and negative expectations of the sign.

Let me finish LOL.

I've noticed a lot around here that you tend to make a lot of 'interesting' comments about Leos (they're easily intimidated, totally lack empathy, need attention on them at all times), and complain alot about them and that you think they don't like you.

Truth is, people pick up on things on a nonverbal level. If you already have your mind made up that because someone is this or that sign, that they're going to be a jerk or difficult to deal with, or that you're going to have a negative interaction with them, or that they have a series of extremely negative traits...people pick up on that type of thing on a subconscious level and it makes them respond to you funny.

It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy type of thing. And if you're giving off those vibes subconsciously...like, a Leo isn't going to jump hoops to try and bridge a gap with someone they're getting those types of vibes from. We'll just give up on you and go icy. I know firsthand because I am one (Leo sun, Mercury, NN). When people approach me like that, or I get weird vibes from them, I kinda mentally strike them off the list and stop even trying to make an effort with them. It's not an intimidation thing. The girl probably just isn't trying with you anymore because she can already see that it's a waste of time and that you're determined on some level to view her in a negative way right from the beginning.


I just like Leos. I'm always drawn to them but I get frustrated dealing with them. However, I wasn't focusing on Leos in this thread despite my comment, so whatever. I will say I was probably a bit overwhelming considering she hadn't slept and has four kids. Your other assumptions are incorrect but it's not important enough to me (or in general) to re-state myself. I get what you're saying.

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posted January 10, 2013 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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These people can be withdrawn. I knew a Leo Sun with a Mercury in Virgo also and they could be very communicatively withdrawn at times. Sometimes they were so silent that I figured they weren't interested in what I had to say. Also, they had really horrible anxiety so maybe that is a factor in this situation? Just like a poster said above me, Virgoan influenced people can have bad anxiety. I noticed that this Leonine person was WAY less outgoing than other Leos I knew and I found he had 3 Virgo planets, Mars too. He was just reticent sometimes and standoffish because he didn't want to say the wrong thing.

Also, Virgoan influenced people take WORK very seriously. Maybe the fact that you two are working is why she is so taciturn and withdrawn. I saw this guy I mentioned a lot at his job during the day and when he was doing intense work, he'd take it SO seriously and be very curt/aloof when I tried to make small talk. Maybe that's it?


Man I'll have to go re-read my posts. I must've given the wrong impression. She's not SUPER withdrawn. We talk, but the conversation falters. Now that it's the fourth time I've worked with her she's opening up and I realize it's totally not personal. She has a lot of stuff going on in her life which would keep anyone occupied (four kids, and an abusive marriage? Stressful.) Sometimes I overreact which was clearly the case here. I have Virgo IC and am anxious myself but I try to deny it lol.

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posted January 10, 2013 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Man I'll have to go re-read my posts. I must've given the wrong impression. She's not SUPER withdrawn. We talk, but the conversation falters. Now that it's the fourth time I've worked with her she's opening up and I realize it's totally not personal. She has a lot of stuff going on in her life which would keep anyone occupied (four kids, and an abusive marriage? Stressful.) Sometimes I overreact which was clearly the case here. I have Virgo IC and am anxious myself but I try to deny it lol.

No, no - I didn't think you meant extremely withdrawn. I was just giving you an example of a Leo I knew with such a combo and how it ended up for them. :') Don't feel bad!

I was just thinking that maybe she has bad anxiety in some cases like he did which keeps her from maintaining bright and engaging conversations, especially since it's the work environment. It seems like Virgoan people can get even more anxious at work. In fact *I* am one such person... I have a Virgo Moon and can be a reticent person sometimes when I work since I take it all so seriously or if something there or elsewhere stresses me out. So I was just thinking that might be the case for her. The work could be her focus to escape other stress in her life or it could be making her doubly stressed out and unable to communicative as vividly.

I also have a Virgo angle, MC and at 29 degrees... as I said I take work totally seriously, and like you said it ended up being not a personal problem with you and her which I suspected. That's how I am with people... I can sometimes seem cool and aloof when really just so many other things are going on with my life that I can't really reach out to others and feel awkward talking a lot when my mind is elsewhere. Again... all from anxiety anxiety anxiety. So typically Virgo sadly.

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posted January 11, 2013 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StacyLewis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I just like Leos. I'm always drawn to them but I get frustrated dealing with them. However, I wasn't focusing on Leos in this thread despite my comment, so whatever. I will say I was probably a bit overwhelming considering she hadn't slept and has four kids. Your other assumptions are incorrect but it's not important enough to me (or in general) to re-state myself. I get what you're saying.

If you didn't want opinions, then why did you ask?

This is less about the fact that I offered an opinion that you supposedly "don't care" about, and more about the fact that the opinion I gave you doesn't agree with your own. If you'd have said "I just want people who agree with me to respond", you'd have saved yourself and a lot of folks a whole lot of time.

I'll just leave you with this - but I know you won't bother because most people don't really do a lot of self-analysis :

1.) Ask yourself how many threads (and random posts) you've made about Leos, specifically during your time here.

2.) Ask yourself how many of them were negative in nature.

I don't think you're entirely aware of it...there's a blind spot going on there, but you *do* have a problem with Leos. Almost immediately, you threw into the subject that the girl was a Leo and then made a weird comment about that, as if to say, "Here's another one of those blasted Leos".

Look, not all Leos are out to get you just because you had a run-in with one that was an a55hat. But every time you walk into any situation with a person expecting the worst out of them, that's ultimately what you're going to get.

My last words here. I'm done with it, and I'm probably wasting keystrokes anyway because people believe what they want to believe, anyway.

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posted January 11, 2013 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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My last words here. I'm done with it

Okay, thanks.

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posted January 11, 2013 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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No, no - I didn't think you meant extremely withdrawn. I was just giving you an example of a Leo I knew with such a combo and how it ended up for them. :') Don't feel bad!

I was just thinking that maybe she has bad anxiety in some cases like he did which keeps her from maintaining bright and engaging conversations, especially since it's the work environment. It seems like Virgoan people can get even more anxious at work. In fact *I* am one such person... I have a Virgo Moon and can be a reticent person sometimes when I work since I take it all so seriously or if something there or elsewhere stresses me out. So I was just thinking that might be the case for her. The work could be her focus to escape other stress in her life or it could be making her doubly stressed out and unable to communicative as vividly.

I also have a Virgo angle, MC and at 29 degrees... as I said I take work totally seriously, and like you said it ended up being not a personal problem with you and her which I suspected. That's how I am with people... I can sometimes seem cool and aloof when really just so many other things are going on with my life that I can't really reach out to others and feel awkward talking a lot when my mind is elsewhere. Again... all from anxiety anxiety anxiety. So typically Virgo sadly.


It could be that. But she actually doesn't have Mercury in Virgo afterall, I got her birth year wrong, lol. She has Mercury in Leo which I usually get along with. She has Cancer ASC and a Scorpio moon, Mars in Libra. So I could see where the reserved nature comes from at first, but also her mothering nature. I'm not worried about getting along/not getting along with her but I made the thread because I've never interacted with a Mercury in Virgo, ever. I wonder what year (or birthday, whichever) has Mercury in Virgo? Probably hundreds of combinations, oh well.

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How to connect with Mercury in Virgo? This girl at work is a Leo with Mercury in Virgo. I was being myself (which is trying to make others laugh) and I could tell it just wasn't clicking, so I stopped. But the night was sooooooooo boring. We had many 45 minute increments of silence. She would try to make conversation but then it wasn't clicking for me (Mercury in Aries). I have to train with her again tonight - what to do? 8 HOURS, people. 8 hours of awkward silence.

The best way to handle her is to let her demonstrate what she has learned, then compliment. Let her feel like she has some knowledge and can provide practical demonstrations. Don't be timid about stepping in if she is entirely clueless tho. Chips fall where they may!

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posted January 11, 2013 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyFavouriteName     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Okay, thanks.

your original post was better!

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by hannaramaa:
[b]How to connect with Mercury in Virgo? This girl at work is a Leo with Mercury in Virgo. I was being myself (which is trying to make others laugh) and I could tell it just wasn't clicking, so I stopped. But the night was sooooooooo boring. We had many 45 minute increments of silence. She would try to make conversation but then it wasn't clicking for me (Mercury in Aries). I have to train with her again tonight - what to do? 8 HOURS, people. 8 hours of awkward silence.


The best way to handle her is to let her demonstrate what she has learned, then compliment. Let her feel like she has some knowledge and can provide practical demonstrations. Don't be timid about stepping in if she is entirely clueless tho. Chips fall where they may![/B][/QUOTE]

Thanks! I picked up on that last night. She was showing me how to make coffee and in my head I was thinking "I do this at the other hotel as well, I know how to do this. Just let me do it myself!" but I let her teach me 'cause you can just tell she likes it, which doesn't bother me, what else was there to do on that long of a shift, you know?

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posted January 11, 2013 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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your original post was better!

Haha! Thanks.

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Thanks! I picked up on that last night. She was showing me how to make coffee and in my head I was thinking "I do this at the other hotel as well, I know how to do this. Just let me do it myself!" but I let her teach me 'cause you can just tell she likes it, which doesn't bother me, what else was there to do on that long of a shift, you know?

Play a game of cards, maybe? Hee-hee j/k!

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Play a game of cards, maybe? Hee-hee j/k!

That's not a bad idea! It's so slow this time of year that we could and still get our work done beyond a satisfactory level.

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