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bridgetostars23
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posted January 15, 2013 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bridgetostars23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My most powerful planets according to Pullen chart are:
1. Neptune
2. Jupiter
3. Saturn
4. Pluto

And most powerful signs:
1. Scorpio
2. Pisces
3. Sagittarius
4. Capricorn

Does Saturn (Capricorn) try to control/discipline Jupiter (Sagittarius)?
And Pluto (Scorpio) try to control/discipline Neptune (Pisces)?

I ask this because I constantly feel a push and pull in my life as well as a hyper awareness of myself where I feel I must pass a guantlet of conflicting/checking/ forces before I feel I am allowed to act or express myself. I was wondering about the astrological pattern.

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anonymidarkness
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posted January 16, 2013 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds like scorpio-pisces domination to me,they dominate my chart as well and I feel like I am one of the most self-aware persons I’ve known,pluto dominates my chart which makes me dig very deep.Neptune may have also played an important role in giving you hyper awareness but may also make it hard for you to see reality.I dont really think saturn can make people self-aware and I am not sure about jupiter as well.It sounds like your saturn is trying to discipline neptune.Is it like getting pulled back from your ideal world into harsh reality?sort of like desiring to achieve your dreams but not being allowed to do it due to some restrictions and limitations?

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aquaguy91
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posted January 16, 2013 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i can definitely relate to this... i have sun conjunct saturn in the 12th..saturn also conjuncts my north node.. with all that saturn stuff i feel the urge to be responsible and stable, especially when it comes to money... but jupiter usually steals the show... i have jupiter opposite sun and square moon so i have the urge to do whats fun and pleasurable right now... unfortunately jupiter usually wins.

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bridgetostars23
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posted January 16, 2013 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bridgetostars23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Sounds like scorpio-pisces domination to me,they dominate my chart as well and I feel like I am one of the most self-aware persons I’ve known,pluto dominates my chart which makes me dig very deep.Neptune may have also played an important role in giving you hyper awareness but may also make it hard for you to see reality.I dont really think saturn can make people self-aware and I am not sure about jupiter as well.It sounds like your saturn is trying to discipline neptune.Is it like getting pulled back from your ideal world into harsh reality?sort of like desiring to achieve your dreams but not being allowed to do it due to some restrictions and limitations?

Yeah. It is like that in terms of the not being able to achieve my dreams. But the funny thing is that I actually wish Saturn would perhaps give a little structure to my Neptune to help achieve them but then lay offfff of my Jupiter. I have Saturn square Jupiter.

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bridgetostars23
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posted January 16, 2013 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bridgetostars23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
i can definitely relate to this... i have sun conjunct saturn in the 12th..saturn also conjuncts my north node.. with all that saturn stuff i feel the urge to be responsible and stable, especially when it comes to money... but jupiter usually steals the show... i have jupiter opposite sun and square moon so i have the urge to do whats fun and pleasurable right now... unfortunately jupiter usually wins.

I too have my sun in the 12th! (Conjunct neptune.) So, maybe that's part of it.

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posted January 16, 2013 02:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bridgetostars23:
I too have my sun in the 12th! (Conjunct neptune.) So, maybe that's part of it.

whats your sun sign?

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bridgetostars23
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posted January 16, 2013 02:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bridgetostars23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Capricorn

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aquaguy91
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posted January 16, 2013 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow we got some similar stuff going on. whats it like having sun in the 12th conjunct neptune? that must be kind of intense.

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bridgetostars23
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posted January 16, 2013 02:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bridgetostars23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
wow we got some similar stuff going on. whats it like having sun in the 12th conjunct neptune? that must be kind of intense.

Well....it's like feeling like I'm living in a dream a lot of times. Escapism? Yes, please. But it's gotten a lot better. I can't really feel my Capricorn sun too much. My ego can be weak at times. I love to meditate and dream. How's Sun conjunct Saturn in 12th?

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aquaguy91
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posted January 16, 2013 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i can relate to alot of what you said.. i daydream alot and like to be in solitude to think. except with saturn life can be more like a nightmare sometimes.. it doesnt help that the sun also happens to be my descendant ruler, so my dating life has been virtually non existent... also it seems that saturn throws alot of challenges and curveballs my way.

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bridgetostars23
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posted January 16, 2013 03:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bridgetostars23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey do you ever experience lucid dreaming, sleep paralysis, astral projection, etc?

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aquaguy91
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posted January 16, 2013 03:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no lol,oddly i hardly ever dream... which is weird considering i have sun in the 12th, moon trine neptune,and mercury conjunct neptune.

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posted January 16, 2013 06:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^Just a wild guess but saturn probably restricts your sun from 12th house stuffs,maybe a restriction in your subconscious mind.Is your father present in your life?I have read and witnessed that saturn in 12th usually indicates absent father either physically or emotionally.I also have saturn conjunct sun(0 orb),it sucks.

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