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Topic: JUSTIN BIEBER phenomenon: so much love and hate for this pisces!- a look at his chart
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its_aqua
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posted February 12, 2013 05:31 AM
  
Okay, I don't really like his music, but I do believe his a phenomenon, becoming so succesful at such a young age, having sold so many singles all over the world etc etcSo many things have been said about Justin Bieber, I thought it'd be interesting to start a thread here with his natal chart and your opinions guys. I found his birth time through some fan pages so it probably is correct.  Sun trine Jupiter: this aspect shows luck and success, and JB is the living proof that Sun-Jupiter aspects bring success and luck Sun conjunct Saturn: this aspects most imes shows problems with the father or absence of the father. Again JB's chart is a proof as according to Wikipedia "His parents were never married, but maintain a close friendship and common goals regarding their son's personal and professional life. Mallette raised her son with the help of her
mother Diane, and stepfather, Bruce." Hmm what else?
Do you think that some of his placements-aspects show his singing career?
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peregrine
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posted February 12, 2013 05:41 AM
reminds me so much of my brother. especially now that biebs has spikey hair. i don't like the wussy piscean male also the whiney (billy corgan) but i don't get much of the hate. people are so mean to him. i saw a video of someone throwing a cup at him at his concert. dude y even go to his concert? IP: Logged |
its_aqua
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posted February 12, 2013 05:49 AM
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Originally posted by peregrine:
reminds me so much of my brother. especially now that biebs has spikey hair. i don't like the wussy piscean male also the whiney (billy corgan) but i don't get much of the hate. people are so mean to him. i saw a video of someone throwing a cup at him at his concert. dude y even go to his concert?
There are mean people-who are obviously jealous like the guy with the cup you mentioned, but his fans are hundreds more than the haters. I mean every girl from 6 to 26 is in love with him. My point is : what in someobody's chart could bring so much controversy over them? so much love and hate at the same time? IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted February 12, 2013 05:55 AM
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what in someobody's chart could bring so much controversy over them? so much love and hate at the same time?
I don't think that's in the chart. Nearly everyone who has a lot of fans has a lot of haters, and it doesn't matter if it's in performing, politics, or gurus, once a person becomes famous they get a wide range of reactions from people ranging from love to hate (with plenty indifferent). Heck, even the most loathsome and hated serial killers get devoted fans (sometimes even married). IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted February 12, 2013 06:05 AM
His pluto conjuncts his scorpio ascendant,I have read in many descriptions that you either love them or hate them,maybe that comes into play.I think he will change.I think lot of people are using him,I hope he can see that and get rid of them but most celebrities dont.IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted February 12, 2013 06:05 AM
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meissieri
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posted February 12, 2013 07:24 AM
I noticed the Pluto conjunct Ascendant as well. Isn't it his chart ruler as well? Then I imagine it'd play a big part in his life. So, I want to try this as a beginner... Pluto is also in its own sign, Scorpio. He draws people in passionately (like the "every girl from 6 to 26 is in love with him" comment), but it's also from the 12th house, and one of the things it rules is hidden enemies. He attracts enemies he doesn't even know of just as much (the haters). He doesn't know them personally. But with Mercury ruling his 7th (open enemies), he could find the hate if he went looking for it, because it's all over the internet. Could that be a reason? IP: Logged |
peregrine
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posted February 12, 2013 08:31 AM
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
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peregrine
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posted February 12, 2013 08:39 AM
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Originally posted by meissieri:
I noticed the Pluto conjunct Ascendant as well. Isn't it his chart ruler as well? Then I imagine it'd play a big part in his life. So, I want to try this as a beginner... Pluto is also in its own sign, Scorpio. He draws people in passionately (like the "every girl from 6 to 26 is in love with him" comment), but it's also from the 12th house, and one of the things it rules is hidden enemies. He attracts enemies he doesn't even know of just as much (the haters). He doesn't know them personally. But with Mercury ruling his 7th (open enemies), he could find the hate if he went looking for it, because it's all over the internet.
darn it i have that exact same placement. i don't give a sh!t. come at me. doesn't venus rule his 7th? it's opposite his MC. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted February 12, 2013 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by meissieri:
I noticed the Pluto conjunct Ascendant as well. Isn't it his chart ruler as well? Then I imagine it'd play a big part in his life. So, I want to try this as a beginner... Pluto is also in its own sign, Scorpio. He draws people in passionately (like the "every girl from 6 to 26 is in love with him" comment), but it's also from the 12th house, and one of the things it rules is hidden enemies. He attracts enemies he doesn't even know of just as much (the haters). He doesn't know them personally. But with Mercury ruling his 7th (open enemies), he could find the hate if he went looking for it, because it's all over the internet. Could that be a reason?
Nothing to symbolize the internet. H7 or Mercury doesn't rule internet. Besides,internet haters aren't up against him only,it's commonplace.  and celebtities are always talk of the ________(what have you)
It's the Pluto both atttacting & repelling.
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its_aqua
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posted February 12, 2013 10:53 AM
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
It's the Pluto both atttacting & repelling.
Very interesting! IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted February 12, 2013 10:56 AM
The thing is why do guys hate him so much.?
Guys never say anything bad about other heart throbs as much as bieber.
Something about him makes him seem like a food stain to society.
I don't have a problem with him or his success.
Also most women like him or have no issues with him!
I don't think its the pisces, pisceans are often loved by people.Maybe mars square asc? IP: Logged |
heartstrings
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posted February 12, 2013 11:08 AM
I didn't find his voice "hot" the first time I heard him sing (he sounded like a girl!! prolly why guys didnt liked him too)but his new song with nikki minaj is so catchy though  i don't really mind him...IP: Logged |
peregrine
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posted February 12, 2013 11:09 AM
even grown men that look like satan in shorts pick on him...
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Kerosene
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posted February 12, 2013 11:12 AM
Top comment"Thats not the way to treat a girl Scottie" Also his venus is really well aspected so thats why he's so popular with the ladies Mars not so much.
I have a badly aspected mars so I often have trouble with guys. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted February 12, 2013 11:27 AM
Is he really Scorpio ascendant?He does not look like one.IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted February 12, 2013 11:28 AM
especially with pluto^
He looks more like a gemini.
Also he would have venus sun saturn in the 10thIP: Logged |
peregrine
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posted February 12, 2013 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Is he really Scorpio ascendant?He does not look like one.
 does his chart look awfully like yours? IP: Logged |
its_aqua
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posted February 12, 2013 11:29 AM
Do you guys see in his chart a singing career and fame? I think Sun conjunct Saturn helps him cope with all the negativity and hate. I have the same placement too, and it's both a curse and a blessing, but in the long run I think it has helped me to maintain focused on my goals despite any negative comments. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted February 12, 2013 11:29 AM
^^I think he is a Sag rising.IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted February 12, 2013 11:31 AM
He's too short and girly for a sag rising lmao...
even sag rising women posses height and a strength about them
Also gemini riser are very gender neutral IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted February 12, 2013 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by peregrine:
does his chart look awfully like yours?
Nope,he is a late scorpio ascendant,but it looks kinda similar except that libra moon,I wouldnt really mind swapping my chart for his though,so many girls and fame,Im a Leo MC afterall  IP: Logged |
peregrine
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posted February 12, 2013 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
He's too short and girly for a sag rising lmao...
even sag rising women posses height and a strength about them
Also gemini riser are very gender neutral
wtf? so he is just right for scorpio asc? IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted February 12, 2013 11:34 AM
If he's a scorpio rising
Astrology and appearance are false.
 Ooo the brooding scorpio 
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its_aqua
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posted February 12, 2013 11:35 AM
I got the birth hour from several "beliebers" forums and sites.
The confusing thing is that they say 12:56 AM, so in the beggining I calculated his chart with 12:56 (lunch time), but then I noticed that it came up in the screen as 12:56 PM.So I changed it and it is 00:56. With the wrong hour, he is not a Scorpio Rising, he is a Cancer Rising, but he would have Scorpio Moon. But I think the chart above is the correct one, because in other sites they have his as Libra Moon, so it's correct. PS: In my country we don't have the AM-PM thing, so it's a bit confusing for me sometimes! IP: Logged |
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