posted June 11, 2013 05:44 PM            

And not the normal jealousy, but the one where they concoct some bizarre plans from the 7th layer of hell, or don't want anyone to say anything good about you, and then act on them?

posted June 12, 2013 12:16 AM            

Pluto makes aspects with everything except venus in my chart and I have had lot of issues with people of my own sex especially around my own age. They behave like they feel threatened by me. I think my sun square pluto could be the culprit here.

posted June 12, 2013 08:57 AM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Venus-Pluto, I don’t have it but I have seen people with this aspect being targeted by their own sex, maybe Mars-Pluto as well.

Pluto makes aspects with everything except venus in my chart and I have had lot of issues with people of my own sex especially around my own age. They behave like they feel threatened by me. I think my sun square pluto could be the culprit here.

For issues of jealousy usually pluto is involved.

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hmmm my pluto is in Libra, and only aspects (sextile) Neptune like everyone in our generation....but my Neptune is the naughty planet squaring almost everything, sun, moon, jupiter(this is almost exact,)

but yeah kind of sucks those people who think you have no clue to how much effort they put into creating trouble n grief in your life, just because they think you've got something their egoes tell them they deserve more than you, so would like to know how they 'find me' lol.
(yip i've got anger issues, and am still angry at the level of damage done, as there is no going back from it)

posted June 12, 2013 09:01 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I don't know about jealousy persay.. But I do know if your masculine or feminine planets are afflicted (sun/mars or moon/venus) you will probaby have problems with that gender. For example : I'm a man and I have mostly good aspects to sun and mars (they trine each other) and I havent had any problems with men. They are usually very supportive of me and trustworthy. But my moon and venus? both are afflicted and women have caused me a lot of grief and heartache in my lifetime.

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sorry to hear that Aquaguy91, i like the 'energy' of your posts, so just hang in there.

hmmm my Mars does square Venus, sextiles the Moon and the Ascendant,
and Venus well squares Mars, and sextiles Mercury and Saturn

but nothing directly with the sun or moon, other than that....wonder if it is the Mars squaring Venus causing all that??

posted June 12, 2013 11:48 AM            

but yeah kind of sucks those people who think you have no clue to how much effort they put into creating trouble n grief in your life, just because they think you've got something their egoes tell them they deserve more than you, so would like to know how they 'find me' lol.
(yip i've got anger issues, and am still angry at the level of damage done, as there is no going back

posted June 12, 2013 12:59 PM            

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Originally posted by jellyfishtry:

I am wondering what aspects of which planets, would cause a person to suffer from jealousy from their own sex, repeatedly, or attract such people?

And not the normal jealousy, but the one where they concoct some bizarre plans from the 7th layer of hell, or don't want anyone to say anything good about you, and then act on them?

(lol i know it is not me as i seem to get along real fine with the opposite sex, when no demonically possessed female is 'in the picture')

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posted June 12, 2013 01:30 PM            

Quote from the book Astro Analysis: The American Astro Analysts Institute

Saturn in Libra:
"Women are generally unfortunate for people with this combination. If you you are a woman, the women in your life are likely to stir up trouble behind your back, to undermine your position or reputation in some way. Lifelong feuds are a distinct possibility. If you are a man, you have probably suffered considerable loss or psychological pain through the open enmity or indifference of a woman. Early heartbreak that will never really be repaired is likely. Separations in the midst of happiness and the reemergence of old love problems long forgotten are to be expected".

posted June 12, 2013 02:57 PM            

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Originally posted by anascorp:
I hope this helps I remembered reading something on the subject and pulled this book out.

Quote from the book Astro Analysis: The American Astro Analysts Institute

Saturn in Libra:
"Women are generally unfortunate for people with this combination. If you you are a woman, the women in your life are likely to stir up trouble behind your back, to undermine your position or reputation in some way. Lifelong feuds are a distinct possibility. If you are a man, you have probably suffered considerable loss or psychological pain through the open enmity or indifference of a woman. Early heartbreak that will never really be repaired is likely. Separations in the midst of happiness and the reemergence of old love problems long forgotten are to be expected".

I am sure other aspects play into this.

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Thank you anascorp! my Saturn is on the last degree of Virgo just before it entered Libra, so this maybe true as it matches my experience....
looks like we have the same placement when it comes to the other things lol...

posted June 12, 2013 03:49 PM            

I get along well with men, and with women.
I feel very blessed because my girl friends are all nice people that have never betrayed me, and they have never showed me that they feel treatened or anything like that, in fact they boost my confidence and make me feel even better.

However I do attract negative comments from women I dont even know, when guys business is involved.
For instance, there was once a guy I was dating and the night we met each other at a bar he was out with a friend who was trying to set up things between him and another girl(friend of hers). As soon as she understood what was going on she started making nasty comments about me to him and she didnt even know me!

That kind of stuff sort of happens quite often to me, other women will usually comment about as a "dumb blonde" . But the same time I have many women giving me compliments and being nice and cheerful when meetin me for the first time.

posted June 12, 2013 04:56 PM            

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Originally posted by its_aqua:

However I do attract negative comments from women I dont even know, when guys business is involved.
For instance, there was once a guy I was dating and the night we met each other at a bar he was out with a friend who was trying to set up things between him and another girl(friend of hers). As soon as she understood what was going on she started making nasty comments about me to him and she didnt even know me!

That kind of stuff sort of happens quite often to me, other women will usually comment about as a "dumb blonde" . But the same time I have many women giving me compliments and being nice and cheerful when meetin me for the first time.

Actually I think that same sex jealousy has to do with the chart of the person that is jealous, becaouse he/she is the one who has a problem, probably with himself in order to feel jealous of someone else.

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you made some good points. I like you seem to attract bitter comments from bitter people, and i don't feel the need to put up with that, because i'd never do that to someone else.

you know the (ugh why her?, what does he see in her,? why did they give this to you ? oh she must be wearing makeup or its the hair no the clothes, no no no don't see anything in her only faults that i'm projecting and look at memememe, i know i didn't notice your existence until now but look at me etc etc...)

it is tiring to deal with people who are always eying what you've got instead of focusing on the other things in life, like their own business, and it's worst when it's a 'group' of them, and gossip and worst goes around....

but to be fair i do also attract super positive comments from strangers to, or ppl i hardly know, and sometimes ones i know well, more often than not, and yes it does make my day, and i would do the same, if i had the chance to say something good to someone, as that is how life should be.

true also, what you say i should plug in their charts and see how it aspects mine, and what transits were going on...

but agree with what you say maybe it is their chart i should look into, and how it aspects mine (but why would i want to see anything about them even here, lol?)

posted June 12, 2013 05:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
It's your Venus/Mars square.
I've seen it happen several times.

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Thank you for replying Doux Rêve that Venus is in a fire sign, and Mars in a water sign (leo/scorpio) does it make things worst or better?

and despite the scorpio in mars, i've never been the vengeful type,(i don't think scorpios are in any case) so just want to know how to avoid attracting some types.

posted June 12, 2013 05:24 PM            

I think you'd see a prominent Pluto / Scorpio in the charts of people who are jealous of you / talk bad about you.

As for your square, I think it's definitely even more noticeable being in fixed signs, especially because Leo is a "showy" sign - you may not be aware of it, but you probably naturally project an air of confidence / pride (not negative) and people who are naturally inclined to get envious pick up on that.

I have a Scorpio Mars myself, but I don't have such problems.

I don't think you can avoid such people, the only thing you can do is do your own thing and not let yourself be bothered by them.

posted June 12, 2013 05:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
You're welcome, jellyfish

I think you'd see a prominent Pluto / Scorpio in the charts of people who are jealous of you / talk bad about you.

As for your square, I think it's definitely even more noticeable being in fixed signs, especially because Leo is a "showy" sign - you may not be aware of it, but you probably naturally project an air of confidence / pride (not negative) and people who are naturally inclined to get envious pick up on that.

I have a Scorpio Mars myself, but I don't have such problems.

I don't think you can avoid such people, the only thing you can do is do your own thing and not let yourself be bothered by them.

You sound like a positive person, so don't let anyone pull you down!

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posted June 12, 2013 05:41 PM            

It's quite simple: Venus (women) are aggressive (Mars) (overty or not, by the way, we all know that being overtly aggressive is socially unacceptable for women). The square aspect intensifies this - creating "tension" instead of an easy flow (like in trines & sextiles).

posted June 12, 2013 05:47 PM            

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Originally posted by jellyfishtry:
you made some good points. I like you seem to attract bitter comments from bitter people, and i don't feel the need to put up with that, because i'd never do that to someone else.

you know the (ugh why her?, what does he see in her,? why did they give this to you ? oh she must be wearing makeup or its the hair no the clothes, no no no don't see anything in her only faults that i'm projecting and look at memememe, i know i didn't notice your existence until now but look at me etc etc...)

it is tiring to deal with people who are always eying what you've got instead of focusing on the other things in life, like their own business, and it's worst when it's a 'group' of them, and gossip and worst goes around....

but to be fair i do also attract super positive comments from strangers to, or ppl i hardly know, and sometimes ones i know well, more often than not, and yes it does make my day, and i would do the same, if i had the chance to say something good to someone, as that is how life should be.

true also, what you say i should plug in their charts and see how it aspects mine, and what transits were going on...

but agree with what you say maybe it is their chart i should look into, and how it aspects mine (but why would i want to see anything about them even here, lol?)

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You shouldnt even bother minding their charts except if you see it as a learning opportunity for astrology.
Other than that, we cant really please everyone, and there will always be someone who doesnt like you because he is jealous of you. The more it happens, the more I find it flattering. After all, remember the quote "haters are just confused admirers". I'd rather have someone talking behind mu back, trying to find flaws on me, rather than not knowing my name. After all, people keep talking about you when you have something they don't

posted June 12, 2013 06:37 PM            

Really don't know why.

I'm an Aries rising, Libra stellium woman with sun sextile pluto (1 degree)

posted June 12, 2013 07:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Haplesschild*:
Girls seem to get threatened by me and jealous relatively often =/

Really don't know why.

I'm an Aries rising, Libra stellium woman with sun sextile pluto (1 degree)

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posted June 12, 2013 10:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
You guys all have Venus square Mars, and like I said before, it's very common for women to have to deal with jealousy from other women when they have Venus/Mars in hard aspect (my sister has the opposition and has some stories to tell, too).

It's quite simple: Venus (women) are aggressive (Mars) (overty or not, by the way, we all know that being overtly aggressive is socially unacceptable for women). The square aspect intensifies this - creating "tension" instead of an easy flow (like in trines & sextiles).

I think it all happens on an energy level - you may not have anything that "stands out" that much, but some people (women) just pick up on your vibes and dislike you (affliction to Mars).

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posted June 12, 2013 10:28 PM            

Could be just one possible aspect.. I have Venus Trine Mars... this still happens to me..