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Ami Anne
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posted July 25, 2013 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People were discussing this on the other thread. I am curious about this because I would like to do an article on her chart but just because I am curious.

Taurus does not fit for me, at all. She does not feel like an earthy Taurus in any form or shape to me.

Taurus feels like they would like food. They feel earthy.

To me, she seems like a Libra ASC. Her features have that sunny, wholesome symmetry that is classic for Libra ASC.

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posted July 25, 2013 08:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a question. Can you tell me how the decans on the ASC work. I am a Libra ASC at 12 Libra.

Does that make me in the Aqua decan? Is that how it works?

Thanks so much!

If anyone wants to see how her chart would look with the different ASCs, that would be very much appreciated.

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posted July 25, 2013 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for birdy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Like I said in the other thread, my guess is Aries.

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posted July 25, 2013 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by birdy:
Like I said in the other thread, my guess is Aries.


Why? I don't see that at all. Can you explain?

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posted July 25, 2013 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LiesLilithsaidtouranus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If she has a Libra Ascendant she would have mars in the first house if she was born at 11:35 PM

So it makes sense that she gives off both Aries and Libra vibes. She is very poised and quite athletic.

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posted July 25, 2013 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LiesLilithsaidtouranus:
If she has a Libra Ascendant she would have mars in the first house if she was born at 11:35 PM

So it makes sense that she gives off both Aries and Libra vibes. She is very poised and quite athletic.


OK There we go. That makes sense. Do you know how the decans work?

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posted July 25, 2013 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LiesLilithsaidtouranus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Libra Ascendant, she would have Mars, Saturn and Pluto in the first house.

Her eyes look very plutonian to me.

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posted July 25, 2013 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LiesLilithsaidtouranus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
OK There we go. That makes sense. Do you know how the decans work?


Decans?
Yes. What would you like to know?

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posted July 25, 2013 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I am a libra ASC at 12 Libra
How would the decans work?

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posted July 25, 2013 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LiesLilithsaidtouranus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

I am a libra ASC at 12 Libra
How would the decans work?


You will probably have some Uranian features, or you might come across as one instead of a Libra rising.
I myself have a Taurus rising, still in the Taurus decan natally, so I definitely come across as Taurus rising or sometimes a Taurus sun.

I have a friend who has an Aquarius rising at 15 degrees and swear she had to be a Gemini rising, but it wasn't so.

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posted July 25, 2013 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Friend.

I was thinking about Kate Middleton.

If she has a Libra asc, I would say in the Gemini decan--so the 20-30 degrees.

Anyone want to put up the chart? I hate using Photobucket

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posted July 25, 2013 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 11nahyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with libra. Or even Virgo. She does not look taurean AT ALL to me.

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posted July 25, 2013 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 11nahyt:
I agree with libra. Or even Virgo. She does not look taurean AT ALL to me.


Virgo misses it with me for her. She seems like a classic Libra rising.

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posted July 25, 2013 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for birdy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Someone who marries a prince will NOT have a empty 7th house(which would be empty if she was a Libra rising) Just my opinion. Diana had Sun/Mercury in the 7th.

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posted July 25, 2013 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To me she looks like a Capricorn for some reason

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posted July 25, 2013 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OH, just checked her birth chart. No wonder I guessed Capricorn.

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posted July 25, 2013 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 11nahyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
To me she looks like a Capricorn for some reason

She's a cap sun

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posted July 25, 2013 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by birdy:
Someone who marries a prince will NOT have a empty 7th house(which would be empty if she was a Libra rising) Just my opinion. Diana had Sun/Mercury in the 7th.

I don't think one can draw that conclusion.

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posted July 25, 2013 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gotta go with IQ on this one. (though it puts us in the minority, it would seem)

Aries ASC (I'd say, appx ~16deg perhaps 18deg, however I do not know where IQ places it).

axis square Sun-Moon and cnj Kaali.

Her Libran qualities will express due to chart ruler in Libra (in aspect to the axis itself, happens to fall slight wide opp ASC node by this calculation, thereby possibly generating more of a Libran finesse. DSC ruler in wide sxt/tri from Aquarius. Adding to the feel that she is 2 parts strength and cunning and one part beauty and charm. (Librans being of Athene of the Olympians, Venus in Libra represents the masculine Venus - or Areia Aphrodite, Aphrodite Hoplismene, Venus in Taurus represents Aphrodite Here' and Antheia, Pothon Meter) - acknowledging the separate identities to constellations and their "signs", as well as the epithets for Venus in these signs are where conventional astrology has gotten quite hung up on encouraging simplicity in spite of inaccuracy and misunderstanding earlier ideology and principles. (In other words... The Dike, Antigone, and Ishtar and later Athene symbolism that comes from the constellation myths regarding Virgo to Scorpio in modern astrology, would never apply to modern Libra interpretations.) ~ meh ~ Makhantis Libran's.... those are the worst.

I highly doubt you or anyone else will ever agree or pay mind to these significant teachings that aren't even remotely appetizing for a one trick pony astrologer with a penchant for turning all things into extremes, but this is my own opinion, irrespective. The Royal Highness looks and behaves very much like an Cardinal Sun-Moon opp natal with Libra Mars ruled ASC with Venus ruling Mars from social endeavoring Aquarius in the 11th and that ASC ruling Mars tucked away in the serving house of 6th which itself is ruled by the solar powered 10th (Sun in 10th)- elevating the natal further above simple servitude.

Big pictures, not just pretty faces, make the ASC what it is, I believe.

It would be even better understood when looking at her exalted MC ruler being in Libran sign/house as well. ~ you see Libra. I see Aries with Libran accents and Venusian accessories being worn by a Capricorn-(dom)Cancer natal.

Besides... There is no way she is a Libra Rising if her biography is correct. The latest I would put her birth time is appx 5/6PM - after appx 5, most people switch to saying "evening". (most not all*) So at the latest Leo, could be her ascendant.

It's interesting to note that she was born in the last total lunar eclipse witnessed by the British Isles until 1985. ~ as an archaeoastronomy enthusiast - I can say that her birth was auspiciously well timed for her future public role. Her Sun/birthday was also celebrated as Agonalia (festival of Janus and the festival of Aset/birthing of Aion, as well as a Thursblot, or Thor's Feast, not to mention the conjunction of Sun to Facies as well as nearby Vega, and the ASC falling onto Altais *the Goat* of the old Draco constellation, her Mars is on the crow's wing *G.Corvi too, I believe her Saturn is near Foramen, and N.Node is aligned with Pollux *one son of the Queen of Sparta, divine, son of Zeus*.) The stars give her a lot of "Jupiter-Saturn-Mars" influence, her sun is Q Jupiter, MC sxt, Moon tri - a strong but subdued magnetic charisma...

I vote Aries.

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posted July 25, 2013 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 11nahyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's something I found on the net
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Re Kate Middleton's birth time - in the book, "William and Kate: a Royal Love Story," by Christopher Andersen (New York: Gallery Books, 2011) it is stated on page 73:

Although they could not know it at the time, the Middletons took their biggest step toward the top rung of the social ladder on January 9, 1982. That afternoon, Caroline gave birth to blue-eyed Catherine Elizabeth Middleton at the Royal Berkshire Hospital in Reading.

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posted July 25, 2013 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 11nahyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to the author of that book, Kate was Born sometime in the afternoon. Which would give her either Taurus, Gemini, cancer, or Leo asc.

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posted July 25, 2013 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, to me, Kate looks like a classic Libra ASC and if I had to put in decans, i would say the Gemini decan, for sure.

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I agree with Libra AC and Mars in the 1st. I think that suits her perfectly.

I'm on the fence about Aries AC though... I still think Libra is a better guess.. but Aries could still "fit".
Aries would be my second guess.

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posted July 25, 2013 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for birdy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for that added info, 11nahyt. Although unless it's authorized book, I dont think it's completely valid. I rather see a reliable source. Astro database hasn't taken it as reliable either.

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posted July 25, 2013 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LiesLilithsaidtouranus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If she was born in the after noon 12pm-4/5pm then she could have been a cancer ascendant, or a gemini ascendant which this one makes sense of why her child has a stellium in the 8th house.

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