posted December 21, 2013 03:41 AM            

I noticed that the tertiary progressed charts and composites have a huge influence for exact timing.
And in these you would look out for conjunctions to the angles and Vertex axis specificially.
Whatever conjuncts those comes to the forefront.

posted December 21, 2013 06:13 AM            

composite Antivertex: 24 Aquarius
pr composite Venus: 24 Aquarius
Transiting Neptune: 24 Aquarius
his natal Psyche: 25 Aqua
his natal Palas: 24 Aqua
my natal Psyche: 24 Auq

In that same first meeting there also was

composite Moon: 22 Capricorn
my natal Antivertex and Sun/Moon-mp: 21 Cap

tp composite Venus: 21 Cap
tp composite true Lilith: 23 Cap

Transit Jupiter: 22 Cap

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composite Sun: 26 Sag

his natal Sun: 26 Sag
his natal Moon: 28 Sag
his natal MC: 28 Sag
his natal Sun/Moon-mp: 27 Sag
my natal Sun: 26 Sag
m natal Mercury: 25 Sag

Transiting Juno: 26 Sag

Something like this.

Our tertiary progressed composite had Aries-ASC conjunct Mars the time we met, which was applying to an opposition to 8th house composite Pluto and a square to composite Venus (though it was still out of one degree orb)

The Sabian of the ASC at that time was:
A Serpent Coiling Near A Man And A Woman

For me personally the meeting resulted in a strong bout of Kundalini rising, which makes sense I suppose.

posted December 21, 2013 09:51 PM            

At the same time, the Anti-Vertex moves up the East side.

posted December 22, 2013 03:16 PM            

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Originally posted by lisalisa:
Thank you!!
I want to check this out but where can i find the current , past and future transit degrees?

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posted December 22, 2013 03:17 PM            

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Originally posted by lisalisa:
What would transitting vertex close to my asc mean?

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Not much. Transiting Vertex is too quickly moving to have any lasting influence.

posted December 22, 2013 03:18 PM            

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Originally posted by lisalisa:
Where to look at for a fated meeting?

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posted December 22, 2013 05:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Not much. Transiting Vertex is too quickly moving to have any lasting influence.

However, if this was a first meeting chart, it would be VERY relevant (cause the first meeting chart is a chart of the relationship).

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posted December 22, 2013 05:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
What do you mean?

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posted December 23, 2013 04:25 AM            

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Originally posted by lisalisa:
yes first meeting, seeing eachother chart, not the first contact with non physical meeting, what would it mean?

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I don`t understand what you mean.

You didn`t meet? THen there is no first meeting chart.
You could even use the chart when you first communicated with each other, when one answered to the other person. But usually a first meeting chart involves both people being in the physical presence of each other.

As for fated meetings, there are many variables, so it is hard to answer that.

However I would first look out for connections that involve the nodal axis, the Vertex axis (in the natal or progressed charts), Saturn, Pluto, asteroid KARMA in conjunction to the luminaries, the angles, nodal axis, Vertex-axis, asteroid Karma, Sun/Moon-mp in the natal chart.

In case you are asking about romance, conjunctions to Venus, DESC, the ruler of 1st, 7th, 5th and 8th house might be existent, too.

Look at natal and progressed charts, (including composits), but the orb for a transiting/ progressed planet setting off natal planets must not exceed 1 degree (or maybe 1 and a half) for a meeting/ encounter, as you are asking about a very specific point in time.

Apart from the mentioned ones also check what becomes angular in a first meeting, either in the first meeting chart itself, or in the composite/ progressed composite.
you can check natals and progressed natals, too, but keep in mind that these are only valid for one person.

Angular means that a planet ends up closely conjunct the ASC, DESC, IC or MC (5 degree orb at max. for natal/ composite - 1 degree for progressions and transits) These things come to the foreground.

Conjunctions to the Vertex and nodal axis are important, too, in terms of connection/ encounter.

Conjunctions to Sun and Moon may raise the conciousness towards the planet that conjuncts them, but may not necessarily lead to some kind of visible manifestation, like you can become aware you love someone, and never even tell them.

However in terms of hte Sun it is more likely it will lead to some action at a point in time, as the Sun energizes anthing it touches, like directing a spotlight onto it; it is actually similiar to the angles in this regard.

posted December 23, 2013 01:57 PM            

It's not the first "meeting" because we spoke before physical meeting eachother

posted December 23, 2013 10:05 PM            

Transiting vertex and nort node: 2 / 1 scorpio
My asc: 3
My pluto: 5

Transiting lilith: 27 cancer
His dsc: 26
My part of fortune: 24
Composite vertex: 22
Composite mercury: 26

Transiting mars: 24 libra
His pluto: 22
My ceres: 22
My south node: 21
Composite pluto: 29

Transiting chiron: 11 pisces
My jupiter: 15
His eros: 12
Composite mars: 12

Transiting south node: 1 taurus
My dsc: 3
His mars: 1
His part of fortune: 1
His mercury: 5
His sun: 6

Transiting sun: 17 aquarius
Composite venus: 12

Transiting jupiter: 11 cancer
Composite sun: 19
Composite Vertex: 22

Transiting uranus: 9 aries
Composite moon: 12
Composite IC: 10

posted December 24, 2013 09:12 AM            

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Originally posted by lisalisa:
First physical meeting chart vertex conjunct my asc ( in synastry it opposes his taurus stellium of mars, sun, venus, mercury, chiron) natally it conjunct my pluto and venus, the sun conjunct the MC in the first meeting chart,

It's not the first "meeting" because we spoke before physical meeting eachother

What will this mean? And is it still something if you have spoken with eachother prior physical meeting?

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While the first time you had contact (even online) is of course important, the first meeting or contact chart is the one you meet in the physical sphere. It always changes or modifies things a little. Like something shifts into place, when the two physical energies mesh (even if you don`t sleep with each other ).

The angles, including Vertex, in the first meeting chart, can only be considered, if you are very sure about hte exact time (hour and minute) you met. Are you?

posted December 24, 2013 09:19 AM            

"Transiting mars: 24 libra
His pluto: 22
My ceres: 22
My south node: 21"
Setting off your synastric Pluto-Ceres/SN-conjunction.
Possibly a past life encounter, or something in the interaction reminds you subconsciously of past experiences.

Pluto-Cres is VERY intense, passionate and compulsive. However it also comes with a theme of sacrificing something, of loss. Pluto "stole" her daughter from Ceres after all.
Nevertheless, both are very intense objects, so any interaction will be intense, too, maybe even obsessive. Neither is prone to letting go easily.

"Transiting south node: 1 taurus
My dsc: 3
His mars: 1
His part of fortune: 1"
This encounter brought his Mars to the forefront for you. His Mars on your DESC sounds very sexy and sensual (because of Taurus) as a matter of fact. Maybe sometimes TOO hot to handle for you?

"Transiting sun: 17 aquarius
Composite venus: 12"
Too wide.
5 days before your meeting would have been relevant.
Did something happen 5 days before, that had any significance for your connection?

"Transiting uranus: 9 aries
Composite moon: 12
Composite IC: 10"
Since you don`t know his birthtime, you can`t consider the Moon and IC, as these are very timesensitive and can change very much depending on his exact birthtime. The Moon can also change up to 6 degrees I suppose, if you used noon for his birthtime, it is still too much of a range to say anything definite.

posted December 24, 2013 12:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
"Transiting vertex and nort node: 2 / 1 scorpio
My asc: 3
My pluto: 5"
Probably too wide to hit your Pluto, but definitel hitting your ASC. Might feel quite fated to you.

"Transiting mars: 24 libra
His pluto: 22
My ceres: 22
My south node: 21"
Setting off your synastric Pluto-Ceres/SN-conjunction.
Possibly a past life encounter, or something in the interaction reminds you subconsciously of past experiences.

Pluto-Cres is VERY intense, passionate and compulsive. However it also comes with a theme of sacrificing something, of loss. Pluto "stole" her daughter from Ceres after all.
Nevertheless, both are very intense objects, so any interaction will be intense, too, maybe even obsessive. Neither is prone to letting go easily.

"Transiting south node: 1 taurus
My dsc: 3
His mars: 1
His part of fortune: 1"
This encounter brought his Mars to the forefront for you. His Mars on your DESC sounds very sexy and sensual (because of Taurus) as a matter of fact. Maybe sometimes TOO hot to handle for you?

"Transiting sun: 17 aquarius
Composite venus: 12"
Too wide.
5 days before your meeting would have been relevant.
Did something happen 5 days before, that had any significance for your connection?

"Transiting uranus: 9 aries
Composite moon: 12
Composite IC: 10"
Since you don`t know his birthtime, you can`t consider the Moon and IC, as these are very timesensitive and can change very much depending on his exact birthtime. The Moon can also change up to 6 degrees I suppose, if you used noon for his birthtime, it is still too much of a range to say anything definite.

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