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Topic: Does it suck that only people with magical charts mostly get famous?
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soren
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posted December 22, 2013 11:29 PM
  
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Sulkyarcher
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posted December 22, 2013 11:37 PM
It could be those people have great karma. They treated people great in their past lives, and now are reaping their rewards. Just one theory I guess.IP: Logged |
soren
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posted December 22, 2013 11:39 PM
Yeah that's possible. If souls do exist. IP: Logged |
starmoon
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posted December 22, 2013 11:39 PM
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Originally posted by soren:
Does it suck? Is it like luck of the draw? But I guess they're lives aren't truly better. They probably have a lot of suckiness too. But yeah if you examine a lot of famous people's charts you will see some 'famous' indicators. Such as many planets with equal spacing between them. Or a very symmetrical chart (the most common). Or a pattern of the planets where the spacing of the planets gradually increases around the chart which would look like this if it were a straight line:1..2....3.......4...........5 Yes I've noticed these patterns. And I look at my chart and my chart isn't that amazing. There's a couple of cool things about it but it's probably not famous worthy. So how do you guys feel about this idea? That you need to be born with a magical chart, or a chart with repetitive patterns, to become famous? Because it seems all the famous people have interesting charts like that. I guess I feel that in life that people naturally gravitate towards what they are good at. People shouldn't envy others lives because you don't know how bad they're lives can be. And they are them, and you are you. You should be happy with your life and maybe not keep wondering about the greener grass. Society needs workers anyway. That's what gets everything to where it is are workers. And we only need a few famous people to keep us entertained. So I guess it works out perfectly. No persons life is probably better than anothers. Even if it seems better, one person might understand deep pain and strenuous challenge which fulfills them and another might have never failed much and they may never come across a darker and painful view of life which could have some benefits. I just wanted to vent that.
I understand your vent, but you're defining fame only by entertainment standards, and are leaving out many people who achieve fame outside of the realm of entertainment. people who come up with great books, or cures, or organizations, people who become world leaders, etc. 'fame' is not limited to entertainment and I think if you broadened your definition you wouldn't find that same astrological pattern, because people can be famous in any career/walk of life :-) IP: Logged |
Sulkyarcher
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From: Lincoln, Nebraska, USA
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posted December 22, 2013 11:42 PM
Of course fame that is out of the entertainment business consists of extremely famous people such as:Abraham Lincoln, Princess Diana, Nelson Mandela, Mother Teresa, Bill Gates, etc, etc. IP: Logged |
theunknown
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posted December 22, 2013 11:42 PM
I think commercializations make us feel the need to be somebody. Being ambitious and famous is a very American psyche thing because America doesn't have a history of monarchy and the likes where one is rarely able to get out of the lot one is assigned to by birth.I'm not envious of famous people. I find obsessions with famous ppl insane, although I do think some celebrities truly contribute to a better world IP: Logged |
soren
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posted December 22, 2013 11:43 PM
Well I noticed that managers/bosses/owners of restaurants usually almost seem to have famous characters. Most likely because they have the most mathematical charts with repetitive patterns. I also looked up winston churchill, arther luther king, ghengis khan, and other's charts and they all have those patterns or look pretty magical.IP: Logged |
soren
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posted December 22, 2013 11:46 PM
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theunknown
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posted December 22, 2013 11:50 PM
Yes but your sample is biased. You haven't looked into all the people who have the same patterns to see if they all are famous and successful. You only look at famous ppl so there might be a large number of ppl who also have "nice" charts and yet not amount to anything.
Several people here have said they have aspects indicating fortune like Saturn conjunct Jupiter and still are not rich IP: Logged |
soren
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posted December 22, 2013 11:54 PM
Yes that's true someone might have a magical chart but still not get famous. And I did notice that symmetrical charts are not uncommon. But still I have not seen many famous charts that did not have these patterns or look magical in some way. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted December 23, 2013 01:13 AM
Anyone who wants to be famous can be famous this day and age - with twitter and youtube, instagram and all that jazz.
It's very easy to put your work/talent out there. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted December 23, 2013 01:17 AM
What is a magical chart?I would say - having Saturn in a sign that is connected to the area where you are trying to get famous - is helpful!
e.g. Saturn in Gemini (or in aspect to Mercury) could get famous for their writing.. because they would put a lot of work into it and impress their audiance as well as VIPs. Jupiter could also help - by a sheer stroke of good luck..
But I'd put my money on Saturn. IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted December 23, 2013 01:20 AM
Why are people so into being famous..
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soren
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posted December 23, 2013 01:25 AM
Famous charts just look nice to me. But whatever. Kerosene. Idk really. Fame just seems like the best thing. To be admired and understood. For people to just pay attention to you and your expression. To have your troubles taken care of because you'd be rich and not have to worry. Maybe its natural for me to just aim for the highest thing I can. But actually, tonight I am going through a big change. And I feel amazing. I feel like I am ready to take on life more personally and share my thoughts and connect with people more. I no longer care to be famous nor do I think I could get famous. I'm happy with my personal life. IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
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posted December 23, 2013 01:28 AM
George Harrison said that fame is a lure.Like a test to see if you could keep focused on what was truly important. IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted December 23, 2013 01:30 AM
Wealth I can understand...
It's not impossible to acquire either.
Honestly very few people can become famous...
Though if one is talented, innovative charming and ambitious enough to possibly receive some acclaim in whatever field or industry they belong to.IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted December 23, 2013 01:32 AM
If you want to share your ideas and put yourself out there.. the internet is a good place..
Make youtube videos etc.It's not easy.. you need image, networking, and time.
So good like with your aspirations! IP: Logged |
soren
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posted December 23, 2013 01:39 AM
thanks for the input but like i said above, fame is no longer my desire. how about you kerosene? what is you dream? and others? what are your dreams? me? i have a quest for knowledge. mostly esoteric things. and i want to be more empathetic and help and connect with people. and just experience life and be aware what we are. im amazed with existence and im trying to find faith in life again (which i dropped (my faith) after i started believing that we are just chemical reactions without souls, but now im believing in some crazy things, like soul connections and maybe your soul going on after death..)IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted December 23, 2013 01:45 AM
Famous people have magical charts in the career area. If you look at these people to see their personal lives the charts won't look that magical.
Famous people are happy and successful in the profession but unhappy and not lucky in their personal life.
To a chart to be magical you need balance. Famous people don't have balance and often not by their choice. Call it fate. Many divorces because partners don't understand their profession. Loneliness and refuge in drugs and alcohol because there is too much pressure and nobody to be there for them.
Balance in famous people's chart is a rare thing. They are the most tested beings. With great power comes great responsibility.IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
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posted December 23, 2013 01:56 AM
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Gabby
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posted December 23, 2013 02:00 AM
Ive read and tend to believe that we all have had our time or will have our moment with fame in one life or another....we are here to experience life in every possible way and to learn from and grow from those experiences...famous people are dealing with things we cant really understand, different stresses, different temptations, different struggles....if you notice they dont seem any happier than anyone else.
i wouldnt want to be them, i would run scared from fame, i would build a house in the side of a mountain with no way in or out except by helicopter before id be famous....its a terrifying thought! People chasing you down, going through your trash, trying to pry into every detail of your life and making stuff up just to get a story to tell and try to get rich off lying about you...OMG, no way!
Sounds like a pure nightmare to me!IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx
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posted December 23, 2013 02:19 AM
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Bluejay
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posted December 23, 2013 04:10 AM
@SorenIt seems like you've had a major epiphany about your desire to be famous, but I still wanted to comment. I don't get why someone would want to be famous. I believe in doing what you are passionate about for a living whatever that may be. Many actors love to act and musicians love to create music, and some become famous for their work. Most of these people do it because it's what they're passionate about, not for the fame. To be motivated purely by fame shows a lack of passion, and a need to feed one's ego. A lot of famous people are miserable, and killing the pain with drugs and alcohol to cope. It's not all glitz and glamour. It would be awesome to be able to fly on a private jet to some exotic island on a whim. Sounds great till an extreme closeup of your butt is plastered across the tabloids saying "She gained a half ounce-look at her huge a$$"! For every fan a celebrity has, they probably have two people that love to hate them. It just comes with the territory. My natal chart has several indicators of fame, but it is the last thing I would want. It would be nice be recognized for my work because I take pride in what I do, but fame...no thanks. I have way too much Scorpio in my chart to want everybody up in my business  ! IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted December 23, 2013 04:23 AM
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Originally posted by Bluejay:
@SorenIt seems like you've had a major epiphany about your desire to be famous, but I still wanted to comment. I don't get why someone would want to be famous. I believe in doing what you are passionate about for a living whatever that may be. Many actors love to act and musicians love to create music, and some become famous for their work. Most of these people do it because it's what they're passionate about, not for the fame. To be motivated purely by fame shows a lack of passion, and a need to feed one's ego. A lot of famous people are miserable, and killing the pain with drugs and alcohol to cope. It's not all glitz and glamour. It would be awesome to be able to fly on a private jet to some exotic island on a whim. Sounds great till an extreme closeup of your butt is plastered across the tabloids saying "She gained a half ounce-look at her huge a$$"! For every fan a celebrity has, they probably have two people that love to hate them. It just comes with the territory. My natal chart has several indicators of fame, but it is the last thing I would want. It would be nice be recognized for my work because I take pride in what I do, but fame...no thanks. I have way too much Scorpio in my chart to want everybody up in my business !
This. I have two planets in 9th house (Woldwide fame) and two planets in 10th house (Fame in general). Do I desire fame? Hell no. But I do want to do what I am passionate about. Its different. IP: Logged |
soren
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From: vancouver, bc, canada
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posted December 23, 2013 04:36 AM
Yeah great words. I guess it was just a desire to feed my ego. I just felt like I was an awesome person who wanted more acknowledgment for that. But Im not as awesome anymore. But yeah I guess people who get famous get that way from doing what they love and not from just aiming to be famous. That's insightful. I should just do what I love. ThanksIP: Logged |
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