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Comatoes
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posted August 29, 2014 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Comatoes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is Gemini masculine or neutral? Hermes was not someone I would call masculine in mythology. What is your opinion on this -- Mercury is a quicksilver delicate planet. The mind can be fragile, and many things can damage it. I guess I have a hard time equating this planet as masculine. I guess it is more feminine in Virgo, but Gemini people don't seem over masculine to me.

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posted August 29, 2014 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its masculine because its yang, its active, not receptive, its light, not dark. The end.

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posted August 29, 2014 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
Its masculine because its yang, its active, not receptive, its light, not dark. The end.

what do you mean it's active? does that mean Jupiter is inactive?

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posted August 29, 2014 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why would Jupiter be inactive? Because it rules the opposite sign? The thing is Sagittarius belongs to the same cathegory

Active vs receptive, like the Sun-Moon pairing. The Sun generates the light and the Moon reflects it. So called masculine signs (fire & air) tend to be more active and extroverted and feminine signs tend to be more passive and introverted.

When it comes to Hermes, he's an androgynous character. Let's say that Gemini is his masculine side and Virgo is the feminine one.

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posted August 29, 2014 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Why would Jupiter be inactive? Because it rules the opposite sign? The thing is Sagittarius belongs to the same cathegory

Active vs receptive, like the Sun-Moon pairing. The Sun generates the light and the Moon reflects it. So called masculine signs (fire & air) tend to be more active and extroverted and feminine signs tend to be more passive and introverted.


It made sense because if Gemini is masculine, and yang, and active and ruled by Mercury then Sag is the opposite of everything of that hence Jupiter. So Mercury and Jupiter are parallel to the Sun / Moon pairing, right?

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posted August 29, 2014 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nicole401     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
It made sense because if Gemini is masculine, and yang, and active and ruled by Mercury then Sag is the opposite of everything of that hence Jupiter. So Mercury and Jupiter are parallel to the Sun / Moon pairing, right?

They're not downright opposite lol, they just have "different" ways of getting to the same goal. That's the way to approach opposite signs I believe ... Mercury and Jupiter cannot be parallel to the Sun/Moon pairing because they're both masculine planets. There's a list of signs somewhere, ranging from the most feminine sign (Cancer) to the most masculine (Aries) in the element format.

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posted August 30, 2014 03:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
John F Kennedy?
Clint Eastwood?

But then again...

Prince?

Gemini has many sides...

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posted August 30, 2014 03:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemini Blues:
John F Kennedy?
Clint Eastwood?

But then again...

Prince?

Gemini has many sides...


Prince has Moon in Pisces, Scorpio Ascendant, Venus in Taurus with a Fire/Air dominate. He's quite gregarious and flamboyant like a person with masculine polarity would be but with a soft touch.
Plutonian-Mercury dominate too, not feminine more on the yang scale but outwardly a mixture of both energies.

The different sides of Gemini is the different energies, elements, and placements of the chart lmao.

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posted August 30, 2014 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
Prince has Moon in Pisces, Scorpio Ascendant, Venus in Taurus with a Fire/Air dominate. He's quite gregarious and flamboyant like a person with masculine polarity would be but with a soft touch.
Plutonian-Mercury dominate too, not feminine more on the yang scale but outwardly a mixture of both energies.

The different sides of Gemini is the different energies, elements, and placements of the chart lmao.


Clint has Scorp rising as well. And while JFK has a Libra Asc. he has a Virgo moon and is also an 8th house sun.

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posted August 30, 2014 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemini Blues:
Clint has Scorp rising as well. And while JFK has a Libra Asc. he has a Virgo moon and is also an 8th house sun.


Clint has Leo Moon with a upper chart and a healthy Mars in Aries in the house of it's joy (6th)

Libra Ascendant is on the yang polarity as most people forget.. he also has Mars-Jupiter..

still less watery than Prince

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posted August 30, 2014 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Comatoes:
Is Gemini masculine or neutral? Hermes was not someone I would call masculine in mythology. What is your opinion on this -- Mercury is a quicksilver delicate planet. The mind can be fragile, and many things can damage it. I guess I have a hard time equating this planet as masculine. I guess it is more feminine in Virgo, but Gemini people don't seem over masculine to me.

Hermes - is an alternate name for Mercury alone (it's not an alternate name for Gemini as well). As the ruling planet of Gemini - Mercury might have its share of influence, but the Gemini constellation - is representative for the inseparable twins of the ancient world - "Castor and Pollux". And from what i read about this two - in all the ancient mythologies - they're depicted as masculine figures.

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posted August 30, 2014 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Comatoes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for all the postings, what do you all think about Venus being a ruler of Gemini?

Esoterically Gemini is ruled by Venus, so maybe Alice A. Bailey saw something more in how Venus is more about connecting and harmonizing, which is similar to how the twins do it -- making connections and bringing people together through knowledge, words, ideas. She never ruled out Mercury but she did use Venus as a ruler of Gemini. Which in essence gives Gemini a Mercury/Venus aspect vibration.

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posted August 30, 2014 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't see how Venus relates to Gemini at all. But then again, people have different point of views, so I really can't say esoteric astrology is wrong.

I feel that Gemini is masculine because it is more focused outwardly than inwardly. Hermes is the messenger of the gods, right? He collects information/messages, sorts them out, and sends them to their recipients. In a way, Gemini can be the part of Hermes that collects and sends out information while Virgo can be the part of his persona that sorts out the messages--kind of like the way Virgo is very critical and organized about everything. Anyway, back to the point, in a post office setting, we can relate Gemini to being the mail man and Virgo, the post office clerk. Since Gemini is the mail man, his job is more public and outwardly focused. Virgo is more of like the guy from behind the scenes. This is how Gemini is seen as a masculine sign--because its energy is directed outwards, not inwards. If you look at a man and a woman in love, traditionally, it would be the man who goes after the woman. Gemini is more like that in a sense. This is why it is considered masculine. It goes after the information it wants. That is the signature trait of a masculine sign. Virgo just waits for the information to come to it to be sorted and organized properly (usually done by observing and criticizing). Being receptive is a feminine quality.

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posted August 31, 2014 06:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gemini is a masculine air sign - but its ruler - Mercury is not, strictly speaking, a masculine planet.

Aries, for instance is a masculine sign ruled by a masculine planet.

Libra is a masculine sign ruled by a feminine planet.

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posted September 01, 2014 02:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Comatoes:
Thanks for all the postings, what do you all think about Venus being a ruler of Gemini?

Esoterically Gemini is ruled by Venus, so maybe Alice A. Bailey saw something more in how Venus is more about connecting and harmonizing, which is similar to how the twins do it -- making connections and bringing people together through knowledge, words, ideas. She never ruled out Mercury but she did use Venus as a ruler of Gemini. Which in essence gives Gemini a Mercury/Venus aspect vibration.


No

(Shortest and most decisive answer you'll ever see a Gemini give)

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posted September 01, 2014 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Comatoes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
I don't see how Venus relates to Gemini at all. But then again, people have different point of views, so I really can't say esoteric astrology is wrong.

I feel that Gemini is masculine because it is more focused outwardly than inwardly. Hermes is the messenger of the gods, right? He collects information/messages, sorts them out, and sends them to their recipients. In a way, Gemini can be the part of Hermes that collects and sends out information while Virgo can be the part of his persona that sorts out the messages--kind of like the way Virgo is very critical and organized about everything. Anyway, back to the point, in a post office setting, we can relate Gemini to being the mail man and Virgo, the post office clerk. Since Gemini is the mail man, his job is more public and outwardly focused. Virgo is more of like the guy from behind the scenes. This is how Gemini is seen as a masculine sign--because its energy is directed outwards, not inwards. If you look at a man and a woman in love, traditionally, it would be the man who goes after the woman. Gemini is more like that in a sense. This is why it is considered masculine. It goes after the information it wants. That is the signature trait of a masculine sign. Virgo just waits for the information to come to it to be sorted and organized properly (usually done by observing and criticizing). Being receptive is a feminine quality.


I really like your analogies, an interesting and creative way of seeing it. Yes, you're right Gemini is not passive about gathering information or going after things of a intellectual/communicative nature. That is one of the strongest attributes of this sign.

I should have broken it down to Gemini and Mercury separately in my initial posting for clarity -- in the first sentence I should have said "do you think Mercury is masculine or neutral" instead of saying Gemini. I just caught my mistake now, my bad. Also the post title should be Mercury masculine. Geez, my initial post is fracked up, must have been asleep when I wrote it. But anyways, I'm not refuting Gemini is masculine, I'm refuting that Mercury may not be entirely masculine, there is just too much duality going on for it to be cast in one gender. I think it is more neutral and malleable, depending on what sign/gender Mercury is in, that is the type it will assume. The other planets don't have this ambiguity, not like Mercury. In some written text, they list Mercury as neutral and in others masculine. So I guess when it's all said and done it depends on the person where they decide Mercury goes.

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