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Twirl
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posted September 11, 2014 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

Can anyone explain Astrologically what transits are going on currently with extremist organisation ISIS & the now more forceful outline from USA/Europe?

Would it be Uranus/Mars?

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Ellynlvx
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posted September 11, 2014 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranus Square Pluto.

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Twirl
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posted September 11, 2014 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
Uranus Square Pluto.

Thanks. Like in a power struggle? (Pluto in Capricorn)
What's generally the outcome of squares like these? A complete change of the situation?

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Ellynlvx
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posted September 11, 2014 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It a sort of ploughing of the field, in a long-term generational way.

You know, living in interesting times.

I actually don't keep up on the news, I just Study the Stars for the most part.

You have to understand that change; such as the Precessional Shift, don't just happen over night, and change is not always a comfortable thing.

At this point, Neptune is in a very good place, while Uranus and Pluto are Squaring up.

If you take into account that these are the Three Higher Octave Planets, two of them rule Pisces and Aquarius, the other has the current generation Domicile coming of age.

So those Pluto in Scorpios are a very tough bunch, it is a Transformational, Revolutionary class. Not always easy to deal with, though.

They are unsatisfied with things as they are, and are precursors to the coming Age of Aquarius.

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Twirl
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posted September 11, 2014 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
It a sort of ploughing of the field, in a long-term generational way.

You know, living in interesting times.

I actually don't keep up on the news, I just Study the Stars for the most part.

You have to understand that change; such as the Precessional Shift, don't just happen over night, and change is not always a comfortable thing.

At this point, Neptune is in a very good place, while Uranus and Pluto are Squaring up.

If you take into account that these are the Three Higher Octave Planets, two of them rule Pisces and Aquarius, the other has the current generation Domicile coming of age.

So those Pluto in Scorpios are a very tough bunch, it is a Transformational, Revolutionary class. Not always easy to deal with, though.

They are unsatisfied with things as they are, and are precursors to the coming Age of Aquarius.


Very interesting. Thanks. I've looked a bit up on the square & the past effects on history. I'll also look up on the shift you mention.
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posted September 11, 2014 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Twirl:
Hi,

Can anyone explain Astrologically what transits are going on currently with extremist organisation ISIS & the now more forceful outline from USA/Europe?

Would it be Uranus/Mars?


Before you look at the astrology it's best to understand the situation on the ground and to know who the players are. Only then, I think, can you get an accurate read.

ISIS/Al-Qaeda are too mysterious to get an accurate read on them. They're from devastated and "primitive" parts of the world yet have access to endless resources to purchase modern weaponry, plus train and supply fighters.

Pluto in Capricorn promised that Authority will become increasingly heavy handed, intrusive, and oppressive. Especially if they feel challenged.

The USA is the global authority. The source of its power is the international use of its currency/the dollar. As is natural with age the Empire has become vulnerable; it's bankrupt and over-leveraged. As denoted by Pluto in Capricorn the Empire, unlike in its younger days, will resort to increasingly violent measures to hold on to power.

"Europe" is not an independent entity.

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FireMoon
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posted September 11, 2014 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^Yes well, "primitive" by whose definition? It's funny when people wonder how Al Qaeda had access to these weapons and resources, when the US actually funded them and basically continues to do so.

Anyway I agree the US knows it's losing its status as the leading superpower, there's no stopping it, but our "leaders" will continue to resort to increasingly violent measures to prevent the inevitable. As long as people here are distracted with celebrity gossip and fast food no one should really have to notice right... edit, nvm lol.

I'll refrain from more ranting, but astrologically I agree it definitely has to do with the Pluto-Uranus square. Also the Pluto in Scorp and Uranus conjunct Neptune in Cap generation are coming into age, so it should be interesting to see how things progress

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posted September 11, 2014 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for socialgraffiti     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, I'd agree with the others regarding the current Uranus/Pluto square, in cardinal signs and in two of the most aggressive signs no less.

I think Mars in Scorpio is affecting how public officials are taking such extreme measures as they can. ex: Obama ordering air strikes on ISIS (despite them not attacking the U.S.), the popularity of the Scottish referendum for independence, how #BringBackOurGirls has failed and how the leader of the kidnapper is going bezerk.

The Scorpionic energy is also most likely lending the atmosphere of subversion and manipulation. For example, the US and Britain recently refused to pay ransoms by kidnappings for ISIS, because paying ransoms has become ISIS' main source of income. Recently, for the kidnapped journalist James Foley, they demanded hundreds of millions of dollars, but the US is refusing to take the bait. Unfortunately it will most likely result in all victim's death, but that is where the airstrikes are supposed to come in.

I think the Cardinal T-Square a few months back including Jupiter in Cancer, Uranus in Aries, and Pluto in Capricorn caused the general destabilization of infrastructure/institutions/government, and we're seeing the full effects of that configuration now, and in the future.

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Lonake
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posted September 12, 2014 03:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I knew something like this was coming. tPluto opp U.S. nSun.

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