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magicspells
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posted December 14, 2014 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for magicspells     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You guys must know what I'm talking about

I can't go back to places of my past, avoid that cafe like the plague, never set foot in that high school ever again

If you are my friend I will love and support you but as soon as I get a whiff of the relationship's expiration date, I will let things naturally fizzle out. I let you go like I let the person I become with you go, I am not that person anymore and if you ever see me again, I will probably be unrecognizable. I don't know if this makes me a bad friend, to be honest, I feel I am doing both parties a favor. I can feel when there is no longer anything left to learn from each other.

I feel the same way about certain songs, movies and books. I just cannot listen, watch or read certain things again. I will inwardly cringe if a certain song pops up on the radio. It's like placing myself in a mindset where I was immature, reliving a me that I can no longer identify with.

When studying, I can't even look over things I have written from school notebooks from merely months ago, which are RIGHT THERE on my desk.. I would rather google the answers than revisit the person that sprawled those letters across the page with all their all thoughts, feelings and mindsets..

I'm a virgo sun, mercury and jupiter with aquarius moon and scorpio rising. I think this has to do with mutability but also my scorpio rising/1st pluto which wants to constantly shed itself..

Anyone have similar experiences?

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LucieLemonade
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posted December 15, 2014 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm the same. I can relate to everything you wrote. Including not looking at my own school notes! I was like that.

Though I'm just slightly more mutable than fixed so sometimes I hold on to things that touch me for longer than necessary.

But eventually I get there and I'm done. I will only look back briefly once in a blue moon on things that were *really* special/important. I smile then I close the book again and put it away for another 5-10 years.

The older I get the easier it is to just let it all go.

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florence
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posted December 15, 2014 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't like looking back and I'm not sentimental about things. but quite often it's because those things touch me so much that I don't allow myself even near that. I can get over emotional about the present and anticipating the future but the past sometimes I can't bear to either be that sad or yearn. Only my children's things from the past I can enjoy.

Am guessing sag moon opp Jupiter in cancer. I understand that need to shed with Scorpio rising conjunct uranus

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posted December 15, 2014 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me, it's hard to let some things go and easy for some. I'm mutable and fixed, but more mutable. I tend to swing back and forth from wanting to let go and wanting to hold on to something. Like I know I have to let go and want to, but when I do, I feel like clinging again. I have Cancer moon and it's pretty strong, so that's basically what causes me to hold on to some things. For example, a few months back, I thought I needed to leave the city I used to live in because everything was getting bland and I felt like there was no use for me to stay there anymore. Now that I live in a new city, I still go back once in a while because I still feel a strong connection with the place. It's sort of a struggle on my part, but I know I will eventually let go with time.

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midnightvenus
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posted December 15, 2014 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for midnightvenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a Sag Moon and I very much relate to this.
Sometimes I just wish I could simply erase all of my past and start again in a place far, far away where nobody knows me.

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Gemini Blues
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posted December 15, 2014 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancer Venus, Leo moon, Scorpio rising for me.

Everyone gets a different me. Some mes are easy to let go when the time comes. Others I fight to remember. I'm afraid I'll eventually forget all the great mes I've been and eventually be stuck with just the me I am.

Time is the greatest thief.

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posted December 15, 2014 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheresthemoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by midnightvenus:
I'm a Sag Moon and I very much relate to this.
Sometimes I just wish I could simply erase all of my past and start again in a place far, far away where nobody knows me.

I have moon in Sagittarius too, and I have very often felt this way! I daydream about starting over a lot...going somewhere where no one knows me and just starting over, never looking back. I've even fantasized about faking my own death, lol!

My chart is mainly cardinal but my draconic chart is a LOT more mutable. I do relate to this. Pushing people out of my life, cutting all ties, and avoiding things that remind me of anything from certain unpleasant parts of my life. It's really the only way I know how to handle those painful situations where nothing is going to give. Purge and move on. The difference is that being mainly cardinal (with a lot of cancer influence) I never do let go of those sentimental feelings about things. I will always look over my shoulder at what I left behind.

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posted December 15, 2014 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for midnightvenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by wheresthemoon:
I have moon in Sagittarius too, and I have very often felt this way! I daydream about starting over a lot...going somewhere where no one knows me and just starting over, never looking back. I've even fantasized about faking my own death, lol!

My chart is mainly cardinal but my draconic chart is a LOT more mutable. I do relate to this. Pushing people out of my life, cutting all ties, and avoiding things that remind me of anything from certain unpleasant parts of my life. It's really the only way I know how to handle those painful situations where nothing is going to give. Purge and move on. The difference is that being mainly cardinal (with a lot of cancer influence) I never do let go of those sentimental feelings about things. I will always look over my shoulder at what I left behind.


SAME. Since I can't really fake my death, I just keep thinking of ways I can somehow disappear.
Like, delete my Facebook account, change my phone number or something. lol

My Draconic Moon is also in a Mutable sign: Gemini.
I kinda have a Water 'void' though.
So it could be easy for me to let go, although my Fixed side hates to get out of the comfort zone.

But, I know what you mean.
My Sag Moon is in the 8th house, so I always end up looking over my shoulder as well.
And even when I'm over something someone did to me, I still make plans in my head to get back at them. lmao

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posted December 15, 2014 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by midnightvenus:
I'm a Sag Moon and I very much relate to this.
Sometimes I just wish I could simply erase all of my past and start again in a place far, far away where nobody knows me.

I have a Sag moon and I actually did this. A couple of times.
But my fixed side likes that we now have Facebook. I can be superficially connected.

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posted December 15, 2014 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for midnightvenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LucieLemonade:
I have a Sag moon and I actually did this. A couple of times.
But my fixed side likes that we now have Facebook. I can be superficially connected.

I never got the $$$chance$$$ to do it.
But I'm still young, so I guess I've got time.

I used to like Facebook, but it's starting to get on my nerves lol

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I'm so cappy
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posted December 15, 2014 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have mutable angles and ASC ruler and I can relate to some extent. Sometimes I wish I had the ability to remove people's memories related to me so that they leave me alone/to protect my privacy/bla bla. I'd relocate far away (well, already my plan) and sooner or later remove myself completely from the minds of everyone who's known me/about me in my country. Also, almost all of the people from the net would get a wipe. Gotta keep working on my psychic powers Faking death and changing the identity sounds cool to me too.

It's interesting that you mentioned revisiting media, I've been wondering about it the other day. Rewatching a movie or rereading a book would be an anomaly in my case but I think that's because I simply prefer to try something new instead. I may rewatch a scene on youtube if I liked it a lot/need it for some reason. I'm more interested in rewatching childhood shows I remember I enjoyed a lot but don't remember well.

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posted December 15, 2014 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am virgo sun + mars and pisces moon, I understand where you come from, but I am also 4th houser with cancer rising + jupiter and scorp venus, so I can be terribly melancholic. But I never look back on certain things... past friends and lovers I always remember, but things that I don't love I won't look so much back on. Things that's just "meh" to me. I would also never read the same book twice lol, not even watch the same movie (except a few movies)

But I kind long for old friendships though, and just because you're mutable you can also have old friendships? I look at it this way. A bee that is out to get it's nectar loves every flower, no matter if that flower change it's color, the bee will still love it, and the bee will still visit every flower every year. It might change, but it's still from the same "place". It might vary and differ from year to year, but it's not going to change fundamentally. Maybe it's a bad example. but I think just because you change through the year, you can still have many different faces that is all likable and you still love the basically same stuff, even though it change a little.

People can adapt to different environment, why can't they also adapt to different people.

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posted December 16, 2014 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for babybull82     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow op you just made me realize why I am the way I am! Virgo moon, gemini mercury, uranus & neptune in sag & pisces venus. It's weird like even if I enjoyed something thoroughly like a movie or a book, I'm turned off by the thought of reading or watching it again. I think it def has to do with not wanting to experience the emotions again, especially if they are negative. Of course there are few exceptions where I will go back but it too has to be associated with making me feel good. But even then, something like an addiction to drugs & alcohol can be lost on me because while I liked the experience I wouldn't want to do it over & over again. It's hard to explain. Same with romance even sex I would just get tired if it & bored after while. I also have a hard time going back to exes..unless I think there is unfinished business but when I'm done I'm done & I usually don't feel that attraction for them again.

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posted December 16, 2014 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mamawolf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fah sho. Once a relationships ends, it ends. I get over it and move one. I had a falling out with my bff from hs and she recently contacted me about getting together soon. At the beginning I felt bad, but now that I've had the years to look at her life through fb, I'm all set. We are too different now and it would probably feel like I was playing pretend. I have an Aqua moon and mercury, aries mars and a good amount of Pluto.

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posted December 16, 2014 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mercury/Venus/Mars in Virgo 12
Moon in Gemini 9 (trine Uranus in Scorpio)

Yep, pretty much.
I don't go so far as movies, shows, or music.
Rarely do it even take it so far as a place that I like to eat or things like that.

But I will cut anything that could lead to contact. Which, if it IS a place that I like to eat, then I'll cut it.
Social networks, mutual friends, etc.
I'll just cut them, no explanation.

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posted December 16, 2014 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by midnightvenus:
I never got the $$$chance$$$ to do it.
But I'm still young, so I guess I've got time.

I used to like Facebook, but it's starting to get on my nerves lol


I don't know how young you are but i did it twice. First time i was 17, second time I was 27. Third....? We'll see! Those are just the times I was alone. My x and I also moved together twice. You might just get your chance.

I like Facebook in small doses. I know 'everyone' is there when I feel like checking in with them, (like i have them in a little box, lol). these days it is less and less.

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posted December 16, 2014 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheresthemoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by midnightvenus:
SAME. Since I can't really fake my death, I just keep thinking of ways I can somehow disappear.
Like, delete my Facebook account, change my phone number or something. lol

My Draconic Moon is also in a Mutable sign: Gemini.
I kinda have a Water 'void' though.
So it could be easy for me to let go, although my Fixed side hates to get out of the comfort zone.

But, I know what you mean.
My Sag Moon is in the 8th house, so I always end up looking over my shoulder as well.
And even when I'm over something someone did to me, I still make plans in my head to get back at them. lmao


While I've never deleted my Facebook account, I have always been fascinated by the idea of a secret life. So I'll make secret accounts under secret made up names and just post whatever I want. I love the freedom.

My draconic sun is gemini, moon pisces, mars virgo=)

So funny that you talk about making plans in your head to get back at someone! Hahaha. There are people who literally wronged me DECADES ago that I fantasize about punishing. I don't really know where this comes from...I thought Scorpio was the vindictive sign, and I only have pluto in scorpio. I do have a hard Venus/Pluto aspect though, and some water placements, including Mars in Cancer (passive/aggressive). But yeah I'll just sit and think up ways to ruin their lives. I'm not sure if I would ever do anything, but one can dream.

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posted December 16, 2014 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So funny that you talk about making plans in your head to get back at someone! Hahaha. There are people who literally wronged me DECADES ago that I fantasize about punishing. I don't really know where this comes from...I thought Scorpio was the vindictive sign, and I only have pluto in scorpio. I do have a hard Venus/Pluto aspect though, and some water placements, including Mars in Cancer (passive/aggressive). But yeah I'll just sit and think up ways to ruin their lives. I'm not sure if I would ever do anything, but one can dream.

Mars in Cancer is very vindictive, right up there with Scorpio.

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posted December 16, 2014 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm mutable Sun/Moon/Asc and I cannot relate to anything in the OP.

Although I will say I don't like it when people have easy access to me like phone/email/FB.

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