posted December 15, 2014 04:12 PM              

So I guess there's been some hype over this lately so I finally watched "The Secret" last night and kind of felt like yeah ok I've always known this intuitively on some level... Back when I first got a facebook and people still put quotes on their profiles my only quote was something like "the universe is metaphysical, it gives what one expects".

Sag has the vision (literally or otherwise) and positivity to make things happen whether they're consciously aware of what they're doing or not. So how does this work with Pisces/Neptune??

Once Neptune started transiting my moon (and Jupiter was going through my 12th house around the same time) I basically started manifesting my worst fears.. Terrible relationship problems, took a 180 with school and started doing poorly (even though I'd earned a scholarship for my grades so it's not like I was incapable), social isolation, drinking a lot, no money, etc...

Um on the plus side I've become more "spiritual" I guess? And watching that documentary was still an epiphany moment cause even though I've become more and more aware of the LOA (visualizing something and having it show up out of nowhere, "asking" the universe for something and then receiving it) I thought I was maybe just going a little bit insane lol and hadn't really heard it articulated that way yet.

Sorry for the long post but just wanted to hear thoughts from Sag or Pisces people on the LOA... People sell all sorts of books and classes and stuff on it, but do you feel like you just naturally implement it in your life without even trying? If anything it seems Pisces/Neptune is waaaay more capable of effortlessly manifesting things, but it's also difficult to face the Pisces/12th house darkness and confusion while not getting stuck in a negative mindset..

posted December 15, 2014 05:19 PM            

It's interesting that you bring up the LOA because this has been on my mind lately. Right now Saturn is squaring my Mars in the 1st and it seems like every single little thing is working against me, which is something that I would normally *never* say and I don't really believe it. But that's how it feels. So now I feel like I have been in a cycle of pessimistic thinking and am definitely drawing some of the negative events that have happened lately. BUT I am no longer lost in a dream world, I'm very much in reality and working harder than ever. I think I've actually never worked hard compared to this. And this is normal for some people..?! Sheesh. I work so hard and reality still sucks. See how it's changed me already?! Lol

But you're right it is deeply ingrained in Sags. That's supposedly what we're all about. Despite being preoccupied with reality, I do still feel an innate sense of the universe 'being on my side' and I meditate with crystals and herbs every night/visualize just because that's something I do. It is pretty natural, I feel incomplete if I don't end the night like that. It's basically the only thing that keeps me going.

And yes the Neptune square makes it easy to 'slip' into very unhealthy patterns, especially since I often have had problems distinguishing reality from my imagination. And I'm an introvert so I don't tell people what's going on, I just bottle everything up and drown in Neptune and nobody knows what happened to me. But I've mostly grown out of this. It was huge for me up until about April of this past year.

posted December 15, 2014 08:38 PM            

But I wanted to say that while I seem to have an aptitude for magic (both the "coinci-dance" and more "special effects" kind--but experiments with prayer turned out very poorly for me which is why I don't pray, I'm actually scared to, though I have some theories on why this is so for me but that's beside the point) I've found that generally speaking when I expect the worst I get the best and when I expect the best I get the worst.

To some extent it could be explained that when I expect the worst I prepare for it and stay alert and thus don't blunder into it unprepared. Yet the INCREDIBLE luck I've had at times when I expected doom goes well beyond that.

That aside, I thought I'd remind you of this thread again:

Manifesting Patterns

posted December 15, 2014 08:59 PM            

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Sag has the vision (literally or otherwise) and positivity to make things happen whether they're consciously aware of what they're doing or not. So how does this work with Pisces/Neptune??

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posted December 16, 2014 12:16 AM            

I don't want to speak too much about it. As I feel I may "talk it away" LOL.

I find the concept simple when I take one phrase and extend it ; examining it thoroughly and putting that into real life.

The one that I work most with is"Most people dedicate a majority of their feelings to what they are NOW observing". This is very true for me.

posted December 17, 2014 05:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
Sagittarius was the conscious side of Jupiter, while Pisces was the unconscious side. The "field" is always at play in our life whether we're aware of it or not. What LOA teaches is to take control and steer things in a direction we want. Pisces/Neptune does the same, but from an unconscious/unwitting side through their daydreaming and fantasies. Thus, both Sagittarius & Pisces are living lives they've created. Sagittarius is more aware of the part they play, while Pisces is often unaware. Nonetheless they're both experiencing a reality they've individually created.

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I like this. ^