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Topic: How To Figure Yourself Out(Without Therapy) –Part Nine–The Ascendent
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 59038 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 17, 2014 09:00 PM
People seem to like this series and that makes me happy. The Ascendent(ASC) is a somewhat difficult concept to grasp. It took me several years before I could get behind the eyes of the ASC. I need to get behind the eyes of every Astrological placement. Then, it opens. At that point, I can work with it.I seem to be a “watery” astrologer. I relate to other “watery” astrologers. They seem to approach the chart in an intuitive manner, rather than purely an intellectual one. Of course, Astrology is a gargantuan body of intellectual knowledge.That goes without saying. However, many, many astrologers seem to stay in the realm of the intellect. Hence, their writing is dry and uninteresting. I strive for an Astrological approach which uses the heart, as well as the mind. I like to engage the reader, so the reader feels he is eating ice cream rather than porridge/gruel. The ASC is one’s outer layer. However, it is affixed. One responds to one’s everyday world by engaging his outer layer. One’s outer layer is one’s habitual manner of response. However, inside, one may be quite, quite different. The ASC is different from the MC because the MC is career and one’s reputation in society, as well as the face one shows to the general society. However, the ASC is one’s habitual walk through the everyday world. Let me give some personal examples because I know myself better than I know anyone. I am a Libra ASC. Libras like to make harmony in all situations. That is one of their dominant drives.The Libra ASC does not like dissenting. She does not like screaming. She does not like loud voices. Hence, she seeks to find moderation. If I have a dispute with anyone, I like to compromise. I like to meet in the middle. I do not like to win an argument in which the other person feels he loses.I like both people to win. Hence, if I have conflicts in my daily life, I will respond in this way. That is my ASC. However, my Sun and Moon are quite different. One would, likely, not see the Sun and Moon of a person one sees on a superficial basis,only, such as a neighbor to whom one waves from the car window. One looks like one’s ASC. One dresses like one’s ASC. One speaks in the manner of one’s ASC. However, down deep, one is NOT one’s ASC. That is really the point. One is really, essentially, NOT one’s ASC. One may appear to be but it is an appearance. If one knows the native well, the native will be his Moon, first of all, and then his Sun. When I say that a person will be his Moon, first of all, I mean “most deeply” When one knows someone intimately, one knows them by Moon sign. That is why I don’t think one can have a truly intimate relationship when the Moons are not harmonious. Conversely, one will have an effortless relationship with someone with whom when the Moons are harmonious. Let me see if I can give examples of each ASC. Aries Aries ASC looks like an imp. I don’t know how else to describe it but to me, it is an imp. Kate Middleton is said to be an Aries ASC. Although she has an image of great dignity, one can see the elfish look to her face. Aries ASC is assertive. He does not approach a conflict in search of harmony, as does the Libra ASC. He wants to win. Aries ASC will be competitive in all areas of engagement, unlike it’s opposite sign, Libra, who will compromise in all areas of engagement.
Taurus Taurus ASC looks like a bull. That is the classic manner in which one can identify the Taurus ASC. He looks solid. He looks grounded. He looks immovable. In his mannerisms, he is calm and rational. He looks as if he is unfazed by life events that would have throw others into a tizzy. Picture the solid, comforting presence of a pilot as one boards a plane. Gemini Gemini ASC is said to look like an elf, similar to the Aries ASC. However, Gemini ASC will have a strong aura of intelligence and alertness to his mien. I am reminded of my Yorkie. Her ears perk up when she sees me grab a plastic bag because I grab one when I go into the garden and she loves the garden. She has a strong manner of intelligence. That is the keynote of the Gemini ASC. He is usually tall and thin with lovely hands. His manner is one of gregariousness. He has an air of openness. One feels one may approach him and one will not be met with an aloof gaze, but with warmth. Cancer Cancer ASC may have a round face that looks like the Moon, it’s ruling planet. He may have beautiful eyes which resonate with the depths of the oceans. Cancer rules the oceans. The Cancer ASC will resonate a feeling of hominess, as if one could invite him to dinner and he would bring home made bread and a scented candle. Cancer ASC is my favorite ASC in men. They appear as if they are warm and welcoming. They may or may not be. One would need to study other placements but they do emanate a feeling of comfort and safety. Leo Leo ASC may have lovely hair in the manner of a lion’s name. Think of Farrah Fawcett or Robert Redford. Leo ASC is said to be the most self centered of the ASCs. Leo ASC is said to dominate the conversation with his accomplishments and feats. He loves praise and this is what drives the seemingly self centered nature he,often, displays. On the positive side, he will be friendly. He will be warm and he may even be the life of the party. Leo ASC would be the most likely contender for dancing in the middle of the room with a lampshade on his head. Virgo Virgo ASC looks “clean”. I don’t know how else to say it but there is a sense that he just came out of the shower, that he smells like delicious body wash and that he would not utter a bad word. The Virgo ASC may be very health conscious. He may be germ phobic. He may be one of the best employees of the Zodiac because of his marvelous work ethic. He will tend to have high values and morals, as well. Libra
Libra is said to be the most beautiful ASC. She does not have a sultry beauty, as may the Scorpio ASC. She has a wholesome appearance, as the proverbial girl next door, the one that you bring home to Mama. The quintessential Libra ASC is Doris Day. The Libra ASC likes harmony and may compromise to a fault. Arguments upset her. Scorpio The Scorpio ASC appears sultry. She does not have the classic girl next door appearance as does her neighbor on the Zodiac, Libra. She looks as if she may pursue the darker pleasures of life. I am not saying she will be a goth but the goth image may help you visualize the Scorpio ASC. Sagittarius Sagittarius looks like a horse. I do not say this in a disparaging way. I love the beauty of the Sagittarius ASC. There is a wild, fierce element. Think of Beyonce. If she is not a Sagiattarius ASC, she epitomizes one. Princess Diana was another Sagittarius ASC. The Sagittarius ASC loves and is very accomplished at physical enterprises such as dance, which was the case with the aforementioned women. Capricorn Capricorn ASC may be bony. By bony, I mean a sense of bones protruding, whether they be high cheekbones or a prominent nose. A classic Capricorn ASC is Tom Petty. This ASC appears to be a serious person who is mature beyond his years. He may have had to grow up early. He may have a sadness about him, as if he is weary of the struggles of life.
Aquarius The Aquarius ASC may have a high forehead. There may be an feeling that the face is not symmetrical. This is hard to describe but I see it as a sense that some harmony is missing.This is usually very, very subtle. It may be more of a sense than a physical feature, too. The Aquarius ASC may be a devotee of natural healing such as acupuncture. He may be interested in alternative subject matter such as Astrology. Pisces The Pisces ASC is one of the most beautiful, in my opinion. They, usually, have very lovely eyes. They have a sense that they are ocean creatures in the manner of the fish which represents their sign. They have very keen intuition. They can size up a situation by a feeling that may wash over them, in the manner of water flowing from a Divine spout. ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Koho Knowflake Posts: 246 From: New York Registered: Jun 2014
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posted December 17, 2014 09:51 PM
When I was still learning the basics I got burned by the ASC. There was a really cute girl at my job during my undergrad years. I honestly thought she was a Pisces. I thought she was gonna be warm and fuzzy and that drew my 7th house Scorpio Sun in. I went for it. Being a Libra Venus & Aries Mars aka the "embarrassed extremist" according to the Venus play book website; I am not overly shy about asking someone out and I'll make my move loud and clear. So I asked her out. She got really red and it sent me mixed feelings so I kinda let her off the hook and I started to walk away back to my area at work but she insisted I stayed and carried the conversation to my surprise. Eventually my boss came over and said 'get out of here Casanova' because he was pretty privy to my 7th house sun and 6th house Venus antics at work (I can't help it I swear). But I left feeling pretty sure id score the date soon. I decided the next day knowing her last day of work was coming up I stopped by on the way to the beach and left her a box of chocolates telling her to have a nice last day and blah blah Well, it scared the **** out of her. she wasn't the warm Pisces I thought she was. It turned out that behind that Ascendant was a double aquarius with absolutely no water or earth in her chart. The only strong synastry aspect we had was my aries mars opposite her mars and trine her Venus. At this point, my co workers rethought the whole thing and said "You know Koho, now that we think about it, in all these years working with her she's never had a relationship and doesn't mention crushes. All she really cares about is her acting career" The embarrassed extremist got burned by a very detached double aquarius Pisces ascendant IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 59038 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 17, 2014 09:53 PM
WOW K! GREAT story.You know what is really hard in the chart? If the ASC is the element of which there is a VOID in the chart. The person appears to be something they are not and they do not understand it themselves.
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Koho Knowflake Posts: 246 From: New York Registered: Jun 2014
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posted December 17, 2014 10:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: WOW K! GREAT story.You know what is really hard in the chart? If the ASC is the element of which there is a VOID in the chart. The person appears to be something they are not and they do not understand it themselves.
Yea! It was a good experience and that memory always gives me a laugh. Good lesson on ascendants for me. Your Taurus ASC description is accurate. People often do feel safe around me. And I like that. Even before I got into astrology I knew about that energy because people every now and then would say they feel safe around me. It's nice. I do like being a Taurus ASC. Only complaint I have is the height tradeoff. I was at the gym today and thinking about how grateful I am that putting on muscle and strength comes easy to my body. But I'm just barely happy with 5'9. Would love love 5'10 or 5'11 dun even care for the 6. Most women I'm attracted to are 5'5-5'7 anyway. And it made me wonder would I give up the Taurus strength for a little more height.. it's a hard choice. The body structure of the Taurus ASC is usually really good for powerlifting Leo ASC is a nice athletic build too. I've noticed all my Leo ASC gym buddies tend to be all around good athletes. Their body structure kinda just puts them in the middle where they do pretty good in everything. Whereas for me and my cousin who is also a Taurus ASC we're naturally inclined to heavy weight full body exercises (squats and deadlift kinda stuff due to general limb structure of us Taurus folk) and very steep uphill hiking sessions. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 59038 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 17, 2014 10:45 PM
Thanks K. Interesting! I get my understanding from people's reports like yours!!!Tell me all your placements. You seem uber interesting ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Koho Knowflake Posts: 246 From: New York Registered: Jun 2014
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posted December 17, 2014 10:49 PM
Taurus ASC 7th Sun Scorpio 8th Moon Cappy 6th Merc Scorpio 6th Venus Libra 12th Mars AriesI could post my chart sometime if you like. Totally an open book here if you ever have a question about an placement/aspect of mine IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 59038 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 17, 2014 10:55 PM
Sure. Post it here, my friend!------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 59038 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 17, 2014 10:57 PM
I will look tomorrow!------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Koho Knowflake Posts: 246 From: New York Registered: Jun 2014
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posted December 17, 2014 11:07 PM
Added one with everything and one cleaned up depending on whatever interest you I hope it doesn't derail the thread cause I really wanna hear about everyone's reaction to the ASC descriptions. I'm only good at spotting Taurus Males, Pisces, and Cancer women ASC so I need the learning edit: and capricorn women are easy to spot to. They always seem serious. I feel like Maggie Siff (Tara) from Sons of Anarchy is a Capricorn ASC
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aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 10279 From: Uranus Registered: Jan 2012
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posted December 18, 2014 12:13 AM
Ami, It's funny that you mention aqua ascendants feeling like their face isn't symmetrical because I have always felt like mine isn't. IP: Logged |
Supreme cT Knowflake Posts: 674 From: NJ Registered: Jan 2014
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posted December 18, 2014 12:37 AM
Your on point with aquarius rising ami 👍Me to aquaguy!!!!! Lmfao its so funny once i read that i was like YUP im deff an aqua ascendant! I always!!! Feel like my face is not even hahaha i always criticize my own pictures! I know im not bad looking but in pictures i ALWAYS think i look wierd! And people tell me no i dont Do u feel the same way about yourself if pictures Aquaguy? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 59038 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 18, 2014 08:05 AM
That is funny AG and Supreme. It is my own little quirk to recognize them lol------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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DaniPepper87 Moderator Posts: 2968 From: Curitiba, Brasil Registered: Sep 2013
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posted December 18, 2014 08:16 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Scorpio The Scorpio ASC appears sultry. She does not have the classic girl next door appearance as does her neighbor on the Zodiac, Libra. She looks as if she may pursue the darker pleasures of life. I am not saying she will be a goth but the goth image may help you visualize the Scorpio ASC.
I'm not a goth, but I have some secret in my face IP: Logged |
bansheequeen Knowflake Posts: 771 From: Beachville, USA Registered: Jan 2012
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posted December 18, 2014 10:22 AM
I'm a virgo asc. Maybe because I am one this is the hardest for me to really grasp a hold of. But people usually say I look serious innocent and shy.Mt boyfriend is a cap ascendant. He looks serious. Not bony at all besides his pointy nose I guess. He looks more soft actually. He's got a stellium of planets in his first, the only one that i can think gives softness though is neptune. Before I knew him, he gave off a very mature vibe. I thought he was years older than he actually is. He did have to grow up early. He has those sad puppy dog eyes. I can spot firey people pretty well. Theyre like sunny and really rough and tumble. Libra aND taurus sometimes. Usually they're very good looking and more balanced than not. Smooth calm features. Also scorpio asc and sun. If someone has low eyebrows, very intense direct stare and square jaw I know they'll have something scorpio. IP: Logged |
margym0o Knowflake Posts: 333 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Jul 2014
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posted December 18, 2014 11:01 AM
Ami, can you add links to all your other parts in the series? I am intrigued!IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 59038 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 18, 2014 11:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by margym0o: Ami, can you add links to all your other parts in the series? I am intrigued!
What I was thinking I would do is put them up up for you, Margy dear! ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Koho Knowflake Posts: 246 From: New York Registered: Jun 2014
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posted December 18, 2014 11:49 AM
I also really feel like the make up of the chart affects the looks of the ASC as well.Most people can probably guess I'm a Taurus ASC but even novices have been able to guess I'm a Scorpio. I also feel, although still broad shouldered and bulky like most Taurus ASC I'm a little longer limbed and slender looking to my counterparts. I've always mused it to be my Aries Mars molding the Taurus ASC a bit though no actual aspect Just some musings. Oh! I just thought of an idea but most of my family men look like Taurus ASC even when they're not. The actual Taurus ASC obviously look like it but even the Virgo ASC or whatever else may be taller looking, different face structure, but the body is molded very similarly. It's fairly rare for one of us to come out slender lanky. It kinda makes me feel like a Sign rules a family Ascendant line :P That's it, I'm drawing up a family crest with Taurus the Bull! IP: Logged |
YellowGerbera Knowflake Posts: 131 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted December 18, 2014 12:37 PM
My Asc is right on the Great Attractor - 15Sag. I never thought I look like a horse though.. Hahahah!! However, my body is more on the muscular side for asian girls I guess. I look skinny but DENSE. Many people thinks I am 10-20lb lighter than how I look. Perhaps this is similar to how a horse looks? Lean and muscular...My mom always say I give off air of presence when I enter a room, as if I have some sort of authority (this could be my Mars in Aries which trines the Asc). She says people take notice of me. I do feel people look at me a lot when I am out. It makes me feel little insecure about my looks :S I didn't know Diana was Sag Asc! Aww, she and I would've been great friends!! We both have same Asc, she's Cancer sun I'm Pisces sun, and we are both passionate about humanitarian works!! Oh and I LOOVE to dance!!! I take dance lessons 2-3 hrs a week IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 59038 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 18, 2014 04:38 PM
Koho I looked at your chart on the wrong thread. Look on the other one. I open two windows when i do charts so just respond to me on there, if you would LOLIt is on my other article on here . ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 59038 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 18, 2014 04:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by YellowGerbera: My Asc is right on the Great Attractor - 15Sag. I never thought I look like a horse though.. Hahahah!! However, my body is more on the muscular side for asian girls I guess. I look skinny but DENSE. Many people thinks I am 10-20lb lighter than how I look. Perhaps this is similar to how a horse looks? Lean and muscular...My mom always say I give off air of presence when I enter a room, as if I have some sort of authority (this could be my Mars in Aries which trines the Asc). She says people take notice of me. I do feel people look at me a lot when I am out. It makes me feel little insecure about my looks :S I didn't know Diana was Sag Asc! Aww, she and I would've been great friends!! We both have same Asc, she's Cancer sun I'm Pisces sun, and we are both passionate about humanitarian works!! Oh and I LOOVE to dance!!! I take dance lessons 2-3 hrs a week
Thanks Yellow. That is fascinating! ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 59038 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 18, 2014 04:49 PM
Thank you again for liking them, Margy. I will put up them inn order, not an easy feat for an earth void ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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olgatheo Knowflake Posts: 568 From: Pluto Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 19, 2014 06:25 AM
Thank you Ami , both right for Gemini & Cap. Rising!!!IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 59038 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 19, 2014 07:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by Koho: I also really feel like the make up of the chart affects the looks of the ASC as well.Most people can probably guess I'm a Taurus ASC but even novices have been able to guess I'm a Scorpio. I also feel, although still broad shouldered and bulky like most Taurus ASC I'm a little longer limbed and slender looking to my counterparts. I've always mused it to be my Aries Mars molding the Taurus ASC a bit though no actual aspect Just some musings. Oh! I just thought of an idea but most of my family men look like Taurus ASC even when they're not. The actual Taurus ASC obviously look like it but even the Virgo ASC or whatever else may be taller looking, different face structure, but the body is molded very similarly. It's fairly rare for one of us to come out slender lanky. It kinda makes me feel like a Sign rules a family Ascendant line :P That's it, I'm drawing up a family crest with Taurus the Bull!
YES YES
One can see the Sun and Moon, as well as the ASC. I isolated the ASC in this article but in the person, one can see all three, depending on the person, of course.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 59038 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 19, 2014 07:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by olgatheo: Thank you Ami , both right for Gemini & Cap. Rising!!!
Thank you, Olga. How have you been?
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olgatheo Knowflake Posts: 568 From: Pluto Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 19, 2014 03:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Thank you, Olga. How have you been?
Hectic !!! But cant complain ?? Except for all the 8th house action now....so many things coming up for Gemini & Gemini ASC!! How R U ??;-) IP: Logged |