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Kannon McAfee
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posted February 22, 2015 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I detail some important features of his chart ... and ... his synastry with his new bride Sophie. Is it good, bad or meh?

Read all about it on my blog:
https://kannonmcafee.word press.com/2015/02/22/benedict-cumberbatch-sophie-hunter-birth-charts/?preview=true&preview_id=26562&preview_nonce=b2ab4e5a37

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posted February 22, 2015 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great info Kannon.
You are a master at rectification.
Both charts fit perfectly.
I really like your work.

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posted February 23, 2015 05:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very interesting article.
I liked to see the declination synastry "in action".

What orb do you use for synastric aspects in longitude and declination? 3 degrees and 1 degree?

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posted February 23, 2015 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a student on declinations and I like your visual exampels.

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posted February 23, 2015 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for page one     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd like to hear some opinions on the preponderance of trines in a synastry like this. Stable or just boring?

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posted February 23, 2015 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, lalalinda.

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Very interesting article.
I liked to see the declination synastry "in action".

What orb do you use for synastric aspects in longitude and declination? 3 degrees and 1 degree?


Good question. The difficulty in answering is that I don't keep fixed orbs, but rather it depends on the planets involved. I think you can extend things further when partner A's Moon is in say angular aspect to partner B's Sun. That could go to maybe even 6*.

However, I'm starting to think that for most other planets definitely 5* or less for other planets in longitude.

In declination, definitely no more than 1*, probably 0*45' or less. Maybe use 1* max for the luminaries.

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posted February 23, 2015 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'd like to hear some opinions on the preponderance of trines in a synastry like this. Stable or just boring?

To me its irrelevant, because of the conjuctions/parellels which will provide unity and energy. Did you see those?

Sun conjunct Mars. Moon parallel Jupiter. Mars parallel Pluto.

With these I doubt their relationship is boring.

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posted February 24, 2015 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alyssa27     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kannon McAfee do you believe that declinations have any importance in composite charts?like they give us additional info for the relationship?

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posted February 24, 2015 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Absolutely.

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posted February 24, 2015 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Thank you, lalalinda.

Good question. The difficulty in answering is that I don't keep fixed orbs, but rather it depends on the planets involved. I think you can extend things further when partner A's Moon is in say angular aspect to partner B's Sun. That could go to maybe even 6*.

However, I'm starting to think that for most other planets definitely 5* or less for other planets in longitude.

In declination, definitely no more than 1*, probably 0*45' or less. Maybe use 1* max for the luminaries.



Thanks. It makes certainly sense to me, though I am always torn between using really close orbs and then again feeling drawn to include someone`s Mars-Jupiter conjunction trine my Venus (even though the orb is 4-5 degrees). But then again thinking I might be reaching or reading into it cause I want it to be there.

However it is pretty much the only longitudinal aspect to my Venus (unless we count the 3 degree trine of his Chiron, which of course makes a Grand trine with all of these). And usually I need strong aspects to my Venus to even feel a spark; it has always been that way. With this guy I do feel a strong spark, and had been quite c onsistently so for some time, yet the aspects to my Venus do not seem strong enough to explain this.
So maybe my thinking was wrong before?


Well there is a widish DW of

his Sun parallel my Venus 0°42
his Venus parallel my Sun 0°43

(and my Venus parallel his MC (0°41))


Nevertheless I have really been wondering if that Sun-Venus-parallel could be the reason I feel that zing of attraction. The synastry just leaves me puzzled as it contains elements that are kinda "new" in my attraction-pattern.

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posted February 24, 2015 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for page one     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"his Sun parallel my Venus 0°42
his Venus parallel my Sun 0°43"

That's WIDE?

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posted February 24, 2015 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I think it is wide.
After all the declinations only span approxmiately 46° alltogether (of course some planets can go out of bound, so that is just a very rough approximated figure, I think so at least).

Nevertheless I saw that curiously this DW results in the composite in a parallel of Sun and Venus with 0°00 orb.

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posted February 24, 2015 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:

his Sun parallel my Venus 0°42
his Venus parallel my Sun 0°43

(and my Venus parallel his MC (0°41))


Nevertheless I have really been wondering if that Sun-Venus-parallel could be the reason I feel that zing of attraction... [/B]


I'd say it explains it well.

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posted February 24, 2015 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
I'd say it explains it well.



You think this is strong enough?

So parallels are also comparable in intensity to conjunctions?


EDIT
Well I certainly relate quite a bit to my natal picture of

Moon parallel Uranus and
Moon contraparallel Pluto

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posted February 24, 2015 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes. Parallels and contra-parallels are just as strong as any angular aspects in longitude (conjunctions, oppositions).

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posted February 26, 2015 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks.

Is that true for their transits and progressions as well?

For example in august I am going to have Tr Jupiter parallel Moon and Uranus and contraparallel Pluto.

How significant might that be?

(I am also having Tr Jupiter opposing my Moon in june this year)


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posted February 27, 2015 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceridwen,

That should be a pretty dynamic transit, an exciting period. A pretty significant transit.

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posted February 27, 2015 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Kannon.

I hope so.

In fact I have noticed that some significant progressions/ solar arcs seem to "tighten" around june-august.
Well the two solar arc pictures are sa Venus conjunct n Moon (in march actually), but then there will be sa Node= Vertex and sa Node = Sun/Moon-mp, which looks at least interesting, in july.


Plus, in may, a fullmoon in the progressions exacting, p Moon opposing p Sun.

which is accompanied by some interesting transits, but definitely not all the easy kind, like thre will be


Tr Neptune square ASC All year
Tr Uranus square Saturn from april on

Tr NN conjunct Pluto in may
with the p Sun/moon-fullmoon and also in may
pMoon cp pVenus
(which seems to reflect the solar arc picture of sa Venus conjunct n Moon)

But with the Neptune-ASC and Uranus-Saturn transits and the Pluto-Saturn-opposition just building, this looks rather tough, and then at the same time I see

Tr Jupiter opposing Moon in february-june
And now the parallels of tr Jupiter to Moon-uranus and cp to Pluto in august,
at the same time with pMC squaring n Moon.


Well hopefully the Jupiter-transits will give me some joy in the midst of it all. As Tr neptune square ASC sounds so sleepy and tr uranus square Saturn so stressful. lol


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posted October 24, 2016 06:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Ceridwen,

That should be a pretty dynamic transit, an exciting period. A pretty significant transit.


you were right. It turned out to become a very pivotal and happy and exciting period in my life.

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posted October 25, 2016 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the feedback.

I am currently reviewing this chart for Cumberbatch in light of some added biographical info. I may've gotten it right, but celebrity charts can be tricky. I am re-checking this chart because it has little/none of the MC/10th aspects you'd expect to see from someone born privileged and who becomes famous.

Anyone have a description of him who has watched him in interviews - or a particular interview that is revealing?

Anyone have life events they want to contribute? (especially honors/public/career)

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posted October 25, 2016 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kannon,

how effective is Chiron in declinations?
Does Chiron makes itself felt in declinations, you think?

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posted October 25, 2016 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Kannon,

how effective is Chiron in declinations? I am asking because my guy has a conjunction in declination of Sun 6'29 N, Moon 6'9 N, Pluto 6'30 N and my Chiron is at 6'19 N

Does Chiron makes itself felt in declinations, you think?


Sure it does. Its just not nearly as important as planets.

In my birth chart Chiron was in Aries/7th house, but at 5N32 parallel my Asc 5N02. It definitely plays a role in my personality, my orientation as a healer.

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posted October 26, 2016 04:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnFan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:

Anyone have a description of him who has watched him in interviews - or a particular interview that is revealing?

Anyone have life events they want to contribute? (especially honors/public/career)


Cumberbatch personifies an interesting paradox - he's privileged and famous, but also extremely self-conscious, shy and anxious.

A part of him feels like an outsider, drastically excluded from society. I can search for a video interview later, but the extract below illustrates this dynamic perfectly. He has also repeatedly said that he's been treated unfairly because of his privileged background, since people rarely acknowledge how much hard work he puts in his job. And lastly, before his career took off and he got people to manage him, he had a lot of clashes with the media - he's very outspoken, direct, and has what people describe as "foot in the mouth syndrome" - a big part of his character which clashes with his "Cool collected Brit" persona.

I figure this is important when considering his chart, because there must be some energies there which obstruct whatever has enabled him to have privilege, and fame.

quote:

Benedict Cumberbatch admitted he was brought to tears on the red carpet at the London premiere of “Star Trek Into Darkness,” last week.
The British actor, who joined the “Star Trek” world for its newest installment (playing mysterious bad guy John), revealed that overhearing his co-stars Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto sing his praises on the press line moved him deeply.
“When I heard them saying nice things on the red carpet… that was the thing that really struck [me] to my core, and it got to a point — it was like a tipping point, I’d say, where I was signing something [and] I heard Zachary saying something very complimentary about me and I started to cry,” Benedict revealed to Access Hollywood’s Scott Mantz at the film’s junket over the weekend in London. “I was looking down and signing and this fan said, ‘Are you OK?’ I said, ‘Yeah, it’s really windy out here, my eyes are stinging.’”


Source: https://www.accesshollywood.com/articles/benedict-cumberbatch-on-what-brought-him-to-tears-at-star-trek-into-darkness-london-premiere-132275/#GMhmfp5kfk7CCASV.99

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I have a question with regards to declinations.

I for instance have Sun/Jupiter/Neptune in a triple conjunct in Sag.And Mercury/Mars/Moon are a T-square formation in the "flat" natal chart.

With declinations,I have Mercu,Jupi,Neptune parallel and True Node contra-parallel.

Sun/Uranus both parallel the mentioned planets,but too wide to aspect each other directly.

Mercury is present in the declination aspects(hitting Jupiter,Nep,Nodal axis (contra)and even a wide 1 degree aspect with the Sun/Uranus)but Mercury is not there in the triple conjunction(Sun/Jupiter/Neptune)in the usual flat chart.

Mars/Moon hit Mercury by square in the natal wheel chart,but don't even touch Mercury in declinations.

Uranus doesn't touch the Neptune/Jupiter/Mercury in the flat wheel.But certainly does form a wide 1 degree aspect by declination

Does one read the declinations "separate" from the conventional "flat" aspects i.e conjunction, opposition etc? Or can one mix both?

So one would start off with the flat wheel aspects and then use the declinations to "add on". And if there isn't any "carry over aspects", one excludes the declinations in favour of the flat wheel aspects?


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posted October 26, 2016 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SaturnFan, thank you. That is insightful. I think I need to watch some video footage of him.

quote:
Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I have a question with regards to declinations....

Does one read the declinations "separate" from the conventional "flat" aspects i.e conjunction, opposition etc? Or can one mix both?


In a sense we all have to read declinations as separate since we are given the data separately, rather than in picture-based form.

The only reason we'd wonder if they should be 'mixed' is if we forgot these two data/positions aren't separate but are two pieces of information (sign/longitude and declination) to know exactly where a planet/point is. So yes, you must mix the two to get an actual location.

Sign position alone does not tell you where a planet/point is except along an east/west line. You need the other part of the coordinates. Just like if I told you meet me at 122 west. Do you go to California? Oregon? Washington state? British Columbia? All of those territories have locations at 122W. You also need to know how far north and south to know where a planet actually is.

This is why I see sign-based astrology as misguided and sloppy. If we locate a chart along two coordinates, we must also do it for those things in the sky we consider so important to put place in the chart and interpret.

Declinations are always 100% indispensible to interpreting any chart -- natal, progressed, transits, etc.

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