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Topic: Why do degrees matter when looking at someone's chart?
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Leo-Cancer98
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posted March 23, 2015 11:36 PM
  
What's the difference between a person who has Venus in Cancer at 5.20 degrees and another who has it at 18.50 degrees? What about someone who's Sun is in Leo at 0.60 degrees and the other persons is in 11.44 degrees?IP: Logged |
deepseablues
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posted March 23, 2015 11:43 PM
Sabian Symbols and critical degrees for one! Plus obviously the degrees will make a difference in the aspects being made, natally, in synastry/composite, etc etc.IP: Logged |
Marandana
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posted March 23, 2015 11:55 PM
Decans has its importance too, and the way you can know them it's by degrees. It's not the same a cancer decanate of pisces, than a cancer decanate of scorpio or cancer.IP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted March 24, 2015 02:05 AM
Earlier the degree the more lessons you have to learn in that particular sign. IP: Logged |
Blind writer
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posted March 24, 2015 03:26 AM
Do not forget duads. They color the expression of a planet as much as the decans do. These contribute to the overall dignity of a planet, as well.They calculate your Arabic points, as well as your midpoints, too. The SUN-MOON midpoint is very sensitive and a well-balanced point that is powerful when activated in transits, progressions, and synastry. Then there are fixed stars, which have a very tight orb. And aside from key minor aspects that are made (quintiles, squines, septiles, noviles, quindeciles, etc), it also counts to look at declinations, and whether aspects are separating or not. Degrees matter quite a bit. To use your example for SUN, the one at 0° is very Leonine (warm and sunny, and a bit prone to dramatics) and unconscious in expression, whereas as the one at 11° is more Sagittarian (more relaxed and insightful, more prone to excess), as well as more purposeful and self-aware. Every degree has a story and significance that applies uniquely to whatever planet is occupying it. This is why sabians can be so useful. IP: Logged |
ikja
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posted March 24, 2015 03:29 AM
That's interesting.My sun is at 25 degrees Gemini. So I'm slightly more Cancerian? IP: Logged |
Blind writer
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posted March 24, 2015 03:49 AM
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Originally posted by ikja:
That's interesting.My sun is at 25 degrees Gemini. So I'm slightly more Cancerian?
Actually, 25° Gem is in the Aries duad. A good degree for MARS and SUN. IP: Logged |
ikja
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posted March 24, 2015 03:51 AM
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Originally posted by Blind writer:
Actually, 25° Gem is in the Aries duad. A good degree for MARS and SUN.
That's hilarious. I keep finding out that I'm more and more fiery everyday lol. It all makes sense now!
Thank you for bringing it to my attention. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted March 24, 2015 04:02 AM
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Why do degrees matter when looking at someone's chart?
Decans, Duads and Karma!  Decans and duads because they add a nuance to the overall character of the sign. Karma because - when you have planets on the exact same degree as another person's planets, there is often a connection between you. There will usually be a particular degree (or several) in a person's chart that stands out. For me, it's the 9th degree - because I have a t-square between Saturn/Jupiter and Chiron, all at 9 deg in mutable signs.
When I meet a person with 9 degree placements (irrespective of sign) - I usually feel drawn to them. We don't have to have conjunctions or oppositions. IP: Logged |
Blind writer
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posted March 24, 2015 04:04 AM
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Originally posted by ikja:
That's hilarious. I keep finding out that I'm more and more fiery everyday lol. It all makes sense now!
Thank you for bringing it to my attention.
My SUN lies in an Aries duad, too. It's a great place for it to be.  My MARS lies at 8° Cap, which is a dignified degree, too. Exalted in Cap, and in the Aries duad. Affinity by modality, too. Squares to my natal placements by MARS transit are likely to result in something happening. IP: Logged |
Supreme cT
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posted March 24, 2015 05:39 AM
Here you go i feel like this would make it a little easier  I have a question as well, my mars is at 23 degrees cancer so its in the aries dwad but does anyone really feel dwads? I know about decanates i deff feel them IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted March 24, 2015 08:57 AM
I never really thought much ab out decans, but Dwads or duads are very fascinating to me. Still researching.
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Ceridwen
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posted March 24, 2015 08:59 AM
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Originally posted by Odette:
Decans, Duads and Karma! Decans and duads because they add a nuance to the overall character of the sign. Karma because - when you have planets on the exact same degree as another person's planets, there is often a connection between you. There will usually be a particular degree (or several) in a person's chart that stands out. For me, it's the 9th degree - because I have a t-square between Saturn/Jupiter and Chiron, all at 9 deg in mutable signs.
When I meet a person with 9 degree placements (irrespective of sign) - I usually feel drawn to them. We don't have to have conjunctions or oppositions.
Did you see this?
http://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/compatibility-love-horoscopes.html
like everything else, I would take it with a grain of salt, but the same numerical degree is certainly interesting, also of course because those are being triggered simultaneously.
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DeepFreeze
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posted March 24, 2015 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Did you see this?
http://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/compatibility-love-horos copes.html
like everything else, I would take it with a grain of salt, but the same numerical degree is certainly interesting, also of course because those are being triggered simultaneously.
How does this translate into a natal?
Ie - natal chart has sun and mars at same degree of two different signs? Not in aspect so something like Leo-Virgo. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee
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posted March 24, 2015 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98:
What's the difference between a person who has Venus in Cancer at 5.20 degrees and another who has it at 18.50 degrees? What about someone who's Sun is in Leo at 0.60 degrees and the other persons is in 11.44 degrees?
Because there is no astrology without them. Genuine astrology is based on astronomical observations of exactly where the planets are and what direction they are going so that we can see their relationships to each other (aspects). Astrology first looks at these alignments of the planets. Signs and dwads are the background field. ------------------
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Soltze
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posted March 24, 2015 06:27 PM
Hello
Would you consider that a Mars at 29º38' of Cancer has actually Leo influences since its so near the beginning of the next sign?I didn't know about the Dwads I found very interesting that my Gemini Sun is in degrees of Pisces since I also have Pisces rising Astrology just fascinates me more and more ------------------
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Kannon McAfee
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posted March 24, 2015 08:50 PM
No. Mars's apparent width (angular diameter) is less than 1/2 a minute of arc. If it were the Sun at that exact position, then the leading edge of its disc would be slightly over into Leo.What such cuspy planets have is 'cusp' influence which is a dynamic of its own separate from a 'mix' of the two signs. That cuspy influence is as an anticipation of change and of decision, to go one way or another, and often means a sense of urgeny or even extreme and/or overreacting tendencies. ------------------
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Randall
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posted March 26, 2015 04:35 PM
Ah...IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze
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posted March 26, 2015 05:00 PM
Oh, then this means my Jupiter at 29.45 Taurus could be partly in Gemini?IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee
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posted March 26, 2015 09:24 PM
No. Jupiter's apparent width from geocentric perspective is less than 0*01' (single minute arc). Apparent width or 'angular diameter' can be found for each planet on its wikipedia page.
url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jupiter]Jupiter[/url] ------------------
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DeepFreeze
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posted March 26, 2015 09:26 PM
Sweet!
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