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LionFish
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posted July 25, 2015 02:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What would it mean if a person has their MC/DSC rulers conjunct in the 5th house of the natal?

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posted July 25, 2015 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It depends on what the rulers of their Mc/Dsc are?

For instance, the ruler of my Ic(Moon) and Mc(Saturn) are trine.

This could suggest that my private(Ic) and public (Mc)persona's are in harmony(trine). But does it really?

The 4th house cusp is Cancer and the 10th house cusp is Capricorn.

My attitude towards family is to care for them(Cancer). And my attitude towards the public /public image, is of someone very formal,serious and maybe even "cold".

This doesn't sound like "harmony" to me.

But if we are to examine this further:The Moon is found in the 3rd house and so I care for my sibling a lot and they(to me) are the only family I will ever need.

At the same time,I bring the attitude of seriousness,sobriety and formality to my relationships(Saturn in 7th).

The ruler of the 10th in the 7th suggests that my relationships tend to take on a sort of "celebrity" status. And are expected to live up to some public persona- by virtue of the MC ruler being in this house.

Now these two areas of life may coincide-because of the "trine" aspect of Moon/Saturn i.e; I may "care" for my partner and act very "formal" with my siblings etc.

But Moon and Saturn are not friends. They don't share the same energy and thus the cool nature of Saturn is likely to be felt by both my partner and siblings quite a bit.

But this "coldness" is not harsh. Its softened by the Moon - like a strict parent who enforces rules. Not to be mean. But because they care etc.

So if we go back and tie that with the "trine" of the Ic and Mc ruler, we should conclude that my private life and public life are in harmony i.e

I seem to show the same consistency with regards to the affairs concerning the things closest to me(3rd house Moon) and those in the public(Saturn in 7th).

What are the planets involved?

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posted July 25, 2015 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love the way you break everything down to its core. My Virgo ruled 3rd house appreciates the attention to detail

In this case, the MC ruler is Mars and the DSC ruler is Uranus. They are conjunct with a 1° orb in Sag.

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posted July 25, 2015 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 26, 2015 05:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LionFish:
I love the way you break everything down to its core. My Virgo ruled 3rd house appreciates the attention to detail

In this case, the MC ruler is Mars and the DSC ruler is Uranus. They are conjunct with a 1° orb in Sag.


I try.

5th house cusp in Sagittarius suggests that self expression for you- comes in the form of being open-minded and looking at the world at large.

You may enjoy teaching others,imparting knowledge,engaging in lively debates about politics/philosophy or big ideals.Or perhaps even sharing experiences of travel,culture etc?

Mars in the 5th brings an interesting mix to the Jupiter-ruled house.

Mars is aggressive and tends towards being self-centered and combative(at worst).

Though it can energize,it also has the tendency to "divide and conquer".

When in Sag, it tends towards arguing for the sake of being "right" or considering points of views that oppose theirs as "competition" to be rattled and overthrown

This could result in a friendly debate about gay marriage or abortion,turning into a heated confrontation about morals and religious points of views(Sag). Be careful of this

Uranus in Sag doesn't like conventional thinking-especially when it comes to religion and politics.

Often preferring a more "modern", eclectic way of looking at the same old subject of "God" and " Meaning of Life" etc.

So Uranus on the 5th tends to not listen or be particular ignorant of points of views that they consider traditional/stern or "stick in the mud" types when it comes to religion or world views(Sag).

So this could result in someone making shocking statements about God, religion or philosophy that may hurt other people's sensibilities i.e "Did you know that there is a very real possibility that Jesus was gay?" etc.

Now when Mars/Uranus act together(conjunct), this means that Uranus "goads" the "devil may care" nature of Mars.

Mars and Uranus are friends only when Mars doesn't impose itself on Uranus.

At other times, they are not on the same side;as Uranus always wants to go on its way and be free from any demands Mars makes.

So in this position,you may offend others with the things you say or argue about(Mars) to dismantle their point of view. Perhaps thinking that you are engaging in "friendly" debate?

But then turn around and be very touchy/self-protective(Mars/Uranus)if they question your ideals?

Perhaps even staunchly holding on to them as the "true" or "progressive" way of viewing the world(Uranus)?

No matter the outcome,Sagittarius usually has to learn the difference between imparting knowledge and appearing like a self-righteous "know it all" etc.

The ruler of the 10th/Mc(Mars)conjunct the Dc/7th(Uranus) in the 5th, suggest that the attitude that you have with regards to the affairs of the 10th and 7th are brought to the 5th.

So as I said, you "fight"(Mars) when in the 5th. And this is probably the same attitude that you have with regards to your career(I assume Mc is in Aries?)

So you become "known" in your friendly debates with people as a "fighter"/ competitor. In much the same way that people in your career view you/your public image(10th).

The same is true of the 7th. Your partners are likely to sprout from the 5th house or are very intellectual themselves.

These partners will help you express yourself and expand your view on the world etc.

But they also bring some challenges with them. Because as I said, Uranus and Mars are not friends-not when Mars gets in Uranus' the way.

So you may find that your partner's support you a lot. But when you start to argue with them and demean their point of view, they won't put up with that. They start to seek freedom far away from you.

This Moon/Uranus conjunct in your chart has a way of manifesting as a sort of personal "touchiness" in relationships(7th),manner of creative expression(5th) and career image(10th).

But there is more....I'll stop here


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posted July 27, 2015 03:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gosh dang you're good! Haha

The only thing differing that my 5th house cusp is actually Scorpio. Sag is intercepted in my 5th, but I've read that an intercepted sign is actually more prominent. I do love teaching, or at least sharing my views and experiences with other people. My closest friends refer to it as "story time" and boy am I full of stories lol

And yes to the negative side of it as well. I can be overly protective of my ideals and ideas of how things should be vs how they are. I haven't however noticed this in myself when it comes to relationships. I'm much more likely to go with the flow or try to not rock the boat TOO much bc I am aware of my... touchiness when such matters arise. Lol... I'm fairly respectful of other people's views and won't try to force mine on them, but when others try to change my outlook I get.... irritated to say the least.

That was a great read Aries! Thank you!

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posted July 27, 2015 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meatballzzzzzz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Aries: I love how you broke this down into full detail. It really helps to fully understand and see the whole picture perfectly. You're awesome, thank you for explaining this!

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Aries23Degrees
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posted July 27, 2015 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks guys

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