posted August 10, 2015 08:36 PM            

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
Just seems like every pluto/scorpio description I read sounds very generic, like it applies to most people. Almost like saying "attention from the opposite sex, its a venus-pluto thing!" like claiming a widespread aspect of human experience to a small subset of people.

Also, you dont know what those other girls that bloomed early went through. Most creepy men are secretive about it, and girls at that age are more likely to keep it quiet instead of telling everyone they see, or telling ANYONE for that matter. When I went through damaging experiences at that age. i TOLD nobody. Not my friends, not my family members, counselers, or even the internet. There is a alot more going on with people than you see on the surface.

But maybe thats just me being a part of the pluto in scorpio generation that everyone around me seems to have gone through things similar to that description above, and other things that are supposed to be only for plutonic people.

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posted August 10, 2015 08:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Dreaminess:

I am talking about when in school with these girls. The boys didn`t care and didn`t give them crap for their breasts like they did me. Their breasts weren`t poked, constantly commented on and rumors didnt spread around that they had fake breasts.

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I agree that this happens to all women, but I think the difference is that Venus Pluto women probably experience the darker side of it more often. Or they attract darker types and those who are more aggressive.

OR they simply feel it in a darker way/internalize it more. Who knows. But I can tell you that nearly all of the women I know who were sexually abused (myself included) have a Venus/Pluto aspect.

posted August 10, 2015 09:01 PM            

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
They seriously have so much sex appeal and women are hypnotically attracted to them but they are honestly just. not.. attractive . at all.

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If women are attracted to them, wouldn't that mean they have the quality of being...attractive?

posted August 10, 2015 09:07 PM            

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
It just kind of makes me wonder about the women that were never vocal about it and are going to hide it until they die. Because I suspect abuse is an iceberg, way more people who are quiet than those to tell another person. Maybe the venus-pluto people have the strength to acknowledge it and tell someone else while another person might never even get the strength to tell herself its real. Maybe venus-pluto people arent afraid to look at the dark side when other people wont even dare. I have the sextile. I can be like "okay that happened" but a lot of people can't even do that.

I dont know. I just get a bad taste in my mouth about taking sexual abuse, even minor forms of it, and just attributing that to an astrological aspect.

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posted August 10, 2015 09:11 PM            

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
physically attractive I meant! Or even emotionally attractive (boyfriend material) Theyre the kind of guy that women are like "I dont know what I see in him, hes ugly and not my type but hes very sexy."

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posted August 11, 2015 12:17 AM            

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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
If women are attracted to them, wouldn't that mean they have the quality of being...attractive?

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Cosmic I think I can help with this, yes they are attractive but in a Jack Nicholson sort of way I mean remember how I. Witches of east wick she tells him your fat ugly and you smell. ( if you ever seen the movie ?)
And he's all "does that mean we are not going to make love?" And they do anybow because even tho he's short and Harry he oozes sex appeal ( as a matter of fact I think Jack does have Venus sextile Pluto in his chart) it's like that.

posted August 11, 2015 12:31 AM            

Another example.. Not to say I think Ville Valo is unnatractive personally, but I could see some people seeing this in him. I do believe he has a certain sex appeal though.

Guess it kinda depends on when you catch him lol.. There are a few pictures of him from the past where he may have been kinda strung out, or drinking a lot.. And I think that affected his appearance at times. I think he's had a lot of ups and downs with his appearance.

posted August 11, 2015 12:42 AM            

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Originally posted by LexusVirgo:
Cosmic I think I can help with this, yes they are attractive but in a Jack Nicholson sort of way I mean remember how I. Witches of east wick she tells him your fat ugly and you smell. ( if you ever seen the movie ?)
And he's all "does that mean we are not going to make love?" And they do anybow because even tho he's short and Harry he oozes sex appeal ( as a matter of fact I think Jack does have Venus sextile Pluto in his chart) it's like that.

Not that All men with Venus - Pluto are far and Harry it's just an example I could come up with.

But some are very good looking anyways. I saw your pic in the pic forum awhile back or thread was it. I don't think you'll have any problem attracting ladies

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Thanks Lexus, I know what you and bansheequeen mean now. I also just like arguing with bansheequeen! Thanks for elaborating though, it makes more sense. Yes, I saw that film, hilarious! So, what you are talking about is magnetism?

Although if I had to choose, I'd rather be ugly and get women, than be "attractive" and not get women. And thanks for the compliment!

posted August 11, 2015 01:25 AM            

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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
Thanks Lexus, I know what you and bansheequeen mean now. I also just like arguing with bansheequeen! Thanks for elaborating though, it makes more sense. Yes, I saw that film, hilarious! So, what you are talking about is magnetism?

Although if I had to choose, I'd rather be ugly and get women, than be "attractive" and not get women. And thanks for the compliment!

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posted August 11, 2015 01:28 AM            

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Originally posted by ReadingTheStars95:
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Another example.. Not to say I think Ville Valo is unnatractive personally, but I could see some people seeing this in him. I do believe he has a certain sex appeal though.

Guess it kinda depends on when you catch him lol.. There are a few pictures of him from the past where he may have been kinda strung out, or drinking a lot.. And I think that affected his appearance at times. I think he's had a lot of ups and downs with his appearance.

I'm pretty sure he has a Venus-Pluto aspect. Can't quite remember though.

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posted August 11, 2015 01:49 AM            

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Originally posted by Comatoes:
Does anyone know if Venus parallel/contra-parallel Pluto works in the same way? I've been reading how important declinations are, so wondering...

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Very possible, yes. How strongly can you relate with the things we've spoken about so far?

I've been told from a few people that ContraParallels are actually probably one of the truest forms of a Conjunction..

posted August 11, 2015 02:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Geminiyoungster:
Do any of you have mars trine, conjunction, square Venus with this combination too? I heard its supposed enhance the sex appeal. I read that ppl get a lot of stares from ppl..

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posted August 11, 2015 03:09 AM            

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Geminiyoungster:
[b]Do any of you have mars trine, conjunction, square Venus with this combination too? I heard its supposed enhance the sex appeal. I read that ppl get a lot of stares from ppl..

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posted August 11, 2015 04:59 AM            

I still remember when I was in the 2 grade, 2 older girls would start to talk to me sayng in the end that I would be beutifull :P

posted August 11, 2015 06:51 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Geminiyoungster:
[b]Do any of you have mars trine, conjunction, square Venus with this combination too? I heard its supposed enhance the sex appeal. I read that ppl get a lot of stares from ppl..

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posted August 11, 2015 11:18 AM            

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Originally posted by LexusVirgo:
No problem, yes I believe that's what it is magnetism.

The film is hilarious
I meant you are attractive btw not ugly so if it came off that way my deepest apologies..

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No need, Lexus. I understood what you meant! Very kind of you.

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
You stalking me cosmic?

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Perhaps....c'mon, you must like me a little bit bansheequeen.

posted August 13, 2015 05:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Dreaminess:
"eDIT: I'm noticing that more and more people are coming forward with admitting they were touched inappropriately, or molested with this aspect. Also being exposed to sex and/or sexual situations."

I am noticing it to. I think what wheresthemoon said is very true that we unfortunately do have a tendency to attract darker types. What i also have noticed is that in my case atleast those "dark types" aren`t always "dark types" but it seems like with this aspect that we can bring those qualities out in people for some reason. Even with women i have experienced that i have brought/triggered out something ugly and dark inside of them.

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Agreed.. And well, to put it quite frankly, in the right circumstances, and if there is a strong Pluto/Scorpio/8th house outside of it.. I think we can be somewhat attracted to darker types..

I don't mean people who are evil, or who have bad intentions.. But.. I guess people who have a bit of an edge to them.

Of course, I'm not saying being attracted to someone who would cause us harm, or try to make us do something we don't want to..

Which is probably what you meant when you specifically said 'dark types'

Of course, no one is attracted to the types of people who mean harm.. Well.. At least, not logically attracted to them.

I would agree. It does seem that at times we tend to attract some of the not-so-good dark types..

Or bring out darker aspects in others. I myself have witnessed this and experienced this VERY strongly first-hand. I've realized I need to be much more careful about how I conduct myself around people, because of this. It kinda sucks..

I mean, I guess it kind of helps bring out certain aspects of other people for them to see and realize that they have them.. Which can be helpful.. But, yeah..

In my case, it probably doesn't help that I have my Sun conjunct Chaos, and my Sun in aspect to Lucifer..

posted August 13, 2015 06:41 AM            

Well.. I guess Pluto does deal a bit with the things that lie behind the surface.. It's a very piercing planet..

If you really think about it, the right type of Pluto aspects may cut straight through a situation, and that can make people uncomfortable at times..

Makes me think of this one time my mom was going off about something, and I kind of realized that the situation was senseless.. and I said to her 'You realize all this energy you are directing into negativity could be used somewhere else? Do you not realize you're wasting your energy?'

The look she gave me..

At first, she had a threatened look in her eyes, and then almost a fearful look.. Then she blew up.

I think people take Pluto energy as threatening at times because it is irrevocable, it can be relentless, and it doesn't waste its time. Nor does it like its time to be wasted. As I said.. It likes to get the core of things.. It's very penetrating. I think some people fear this, partly because in a way it has the capability of making them feel as if their emotions invalid.

It's kind of hard for me to explain.. But, I think you probably kind of understand the point I'm trying to make.