posted August 09, 2015 06:50 AM            

I relate so much with this, on both spectrums. Growing up i got my first period in 5th grade, my breasts started popping out already in 4th grade (might be my cancer influence to blame there haha) and i was so embarrassed and i remember i tried to hide them bc i was the only one in my class that had started growing them. I didn`t only get attention from them by my peers, by 6th grade adult men and old men started giving me "looks" to. While growing up where i lived i was one of very few brownies that lived there so i did get judged a few times bc of it, and girls esp older girls thought my breasts were fake. I got judged for my clothing style to.

posted August 09, 2015 07:14 AM            

I've been judged for my looks. I would always have secret crushes or people would assume I thought I was better than everyone else because i was attractive and confident in who I was. Girls would approach me more than I approached them, even the older ones. This has been going on since I was about 11. When I was 12-14, girls 18 and up were flirting with me. I remember when I was 15 my mom told my sister who was is in college to tell her friends to stay away from me lol that was funny.

I've been called a "player" though I'm far from that, and i hate having to be something I'm not to impress females, i find that to be pathetic. A friend of mine told me that i intimidate females, or made them shy because back in school I had a lot of crushes, but since I was quiet and they were shy, i never really gave them any time of day. I have always been more attracted to women who were confident about what they wanted. Never liked the shy types.

Im 25 now so its a bit different, i feel like i gotta be extra careful because i know how straight forward i am. Plus I try not to get involved with random females anymore. I was just on a date last Friday and even though I could've pursued it further (she's an old friend, we used to like each other a lot) when i found out she was talking to someone else I stopped immediately. I've done this before with a woman who was engaged and it was aggravating. She said she wanted to be with me but was unsure of getting back with her ex, so I cut that one off.

Its kinda hard for me to be in a relationship with a woman who is clear about what they want these days. I don't like playing guessing games. I love older women, I had an amazing sexual relationship with a woman who was in her 30's while i was still in my early 20's a few years ago. But that was a rare catch. We really clicked but she had control issues (damn Virgos)

posted August 09, 2015 07:16 AM            

Funny thing is my breasts aren't big, they just "look" big compared to my body frame.

posted August 09, 2015 07:18 AM            

I started my period very young. In year 5 (UK), so that's age 9/10. I remember that day, my mum was so excited for me 😐😕.

I've always been able to get the attention of guys who are older than me. However, it always seems to be about attractiveness and I quickly learned that being desirable body wise was not always a blessing.

I still struggle with the fact that guys think I'm a 'sexy siren' yet fail to see that I'm actually quite deep and sensitive.

posted August 09, 2015 08:00 AM            

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
I only have the sextile and I went through similar problems. My breasts grew almost overnight when I was 12/13. Creeps harassed me and tried to put the blame on the size of my chest. Some people cautioned my parents not to bring me to church because they thought I may arouse indecent feelings in others.

Funny thing is my breasts aren't big, they just "look" big compared to my body frame.

As of now, well I don't think others judge me much for my physical appearance. Or maybe I don't notice. Sometimes due to my small frame, some view me as incapable of doing certain things. Sometimes people think that I'm "high maintenance" and "expensive" - what some of my husband's friends told him when they first saw me. Sometimes older men got the idea that I would want them as a sugar daddy. But other than that I don't have to go through extreme things like before.

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posted August 09, 2015 08:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
I natally have venus sq pluto and yes when growing up people would often tell me that I am ugly or something like that especially the boys in my age would make fun of my looks in the most cruel way i was having a kind of hard time coming over it...,

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My cousin who thought she was so beautiful and perfect used to tell me I was fat and ugly when's did not want to give into her manipulative ways she was sun Taurus moon Scorpio . So I got a complex from that cus growing up I had to hear how she was beautiful and u wasn't

There was a boy in 4th grade that just would not leave me alone he always made fun of me and stuff. So I know how you feel.

My first love when I was 13 liked my best friend over me because she was a Brittany spears wannabe and they had Venus conj mArs. I used to look at myself in the mirror and tell myself I'm the ugliest girl in the world

posted August 09, 2015 08:54 AM            

When I was overseas, I experienced comments about my small frame. Some people used to underestimate my strength, but these comments were usually from ladies going through weight problems.
They were never rude though.

posted August 09, 2015 10:36 AM            

venus conjunct pluto in scorpio here..

my looks tend to polarize people. i'm eurasian (polish and singaporean/peranakan) but i don't look like the typical eurasian in terms of the golden skin and light brown hair.

there are those that think i'm really pretty, usually older generations, and others that think i'm hideous.

i've been bullied for being ugly all my life, all day every day. i've gone through years and years of during the day being told that i should kill myself for being born with my looks, i've once been chanted at by a group of girls and guys in my secondary school to slash my face with a razor blade cause it'd look better then... then going out at night with family or weekends when i'm told by men and women older than 40 that i'm gorgeous and some say i should try for miss ___ pagent.

my mother was a great beauty in her youth and still is now. so i get compared to her as well and told that i'm not as pretty as she was/is. i'm eurasian as well so my mother likes it when i'm paler and more 'western' looking where as i use to want to like to look more like my mother

i didn't develop very early, just normally.

posted August 09, 2015 05:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Gabby:
Wow, I totally relate! Pluto on AC(3 degree) Pluto conjunct Venus(8 degree) Venus 12 degree from AC
Venus chart ruler conjunct Anti-Vertex/Destin.

Period/boobs in 5th grade, uncles and grandpa used to tease me constantly to the point I hated my body. My brothers were mean about it to. I remember my teachers in 6th grade were way to friendly, boys used to try to get me to play "tune in Tokyo" and when I wouldn't they would say hateful things.
By the time I was in high school I hated my body and were clothes that were huge, no makeup, didn't fix my hair...I was very depressed to.

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posted August 09, 2015 05:33 PM            

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Originally posted by erickaf:
Interesting. I only have the sextile but I was not an attractive young girl but did develop nicely after 19 years of age and have been asked to go into modeling...but I wasn't interested. I noticed a lot of my friends lost their looks during the 20s and early 30s (I am now 32)...and I look better and better with age...(I am not conceited so don't take it that way)...however I think my Venus-Neptune has more to do with me looking more youthful and better with age than Venus-Pluto. However I do related to Venus-Pluto in the fact that I do obsess over my looks...always trying the latest cream, etc...I won't let anyone see me without eyeliner.

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posted August 09, 2015 05:37 PM            

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I had a period where i just did not like my body/curves to. I always tried to hide my butt and the thing is i didnt have a super big butt but it was bigger than my female peers so it felt humongous so i would tie a sweater around my waist. Boys would suddenly poke my breasts and constantly comment on them. My brothers could be harsh esp my older brother with his cap/saturn stellium lol. I just felt so conflicted with the way i looked.

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posted August 10, 2015 04:34 AM            

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
I kind of feel like that applies to all girls growing up...

If they are in the first category, they'll be most buxom compared to other girls their age and will get all the attention, and attention from adults that think they are older.

If they arent in the first group, theyll feel judged and insecure about thier appearance and hyper aware of what society says is attractive.

I have the sextile and I can relate a little to both. I was not an early bloomer, but regardless I did get attention from much older men. And I always felt like I wasnt good enough. But then I feel like most girls go through this, even ones that are very not plutonic.

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posted August 10, 2015 05:34 AM            

I'm even told now it is surprising I have the beard I do, being only 20.

However, I think my situation is a bit complicated.. But, I'm not sure how to explain it all.. xD

Also.. My voice started dropping when I was only about 12.. Another thing I got a lot of comments on.

Honestly, luckily, I have a choice about the beard part to a certain degree. It's hair. It can be cut. So.. That didn't really draw much attention until I started growing it out. Of course, I've gotten mixed opinions from others about it.

However, another interesting thing.. Even in saying these things, I looked VERY feminine when I was younger. There were times I was asked if I was a girl. (Partly because of my style too, I'm sure..) so.. In regards to how I dressed, I got judged quite a bit.. I was always happy with my style though.

I had times where I was unhappy with my appearance. But.. For the most part, I had my own style.. Got a lot of opposition for it.. But, still enjoyed the style.. And, the types of people that it seemed to attract. I learned to really embrace it. However, that may partly be because of some of my other aspects.

There were times I found myself attracting somewhat older people. Never bothered me much, honestly. They weren't ever really that much older than me. The biggest age gap of someone I've attracted was probably 10 years older than me.. And, that was after I was 16. Personally, wouldn't mind dating someone 8 years or so older than me now.. However, that is a different subject in and of itself.

On a different note.. I know my dad criticized the way I looked A LOT when I was younger (12-15).. There was definitely some name-calling. It hurt. But.. Over time, it kinda just stopped bothering me. (Had a much more gothic style back then.)

I guess around the age of 15-17, I got really into bodybuilding. I wanted to go professional some day.

However, it was never really because I was extremely obsessed with what others thought. I just always admired the amount of work put into it. At that point in time, I did attract some attention because of my physique. I was very dedicated to what I was doing. I had a lot of people comment on my arms and such.. Sometimes got asked what I did. But.. I'm not sure if this would be relevant..

I do remember when I was really young I often got some harsh comments.. I remember being told that I had green skin when I was in elementary (my skin DOES have a pretty deep copper/olive tone to it.. xD.. So, I guess there was some truth. Doesn't bother me now though.. I like my skin-tone).. Some kids used to make fun of my teeth..

I guess now I get a bit of attention for my beard and my hair.. (Which really, is really only there nowadays because there is still a part of me holding onto the permanent Nazarite's Vow I made at around the age of 17.. It's not really about the style or anything for me. Even though, I no longer am Christian, I still hold onto my vows at this point in time.. However, there is a lot of uncertainty of where I stand on my thoughts about that right now.. It was kind of a naive thing for me to do at that age. I was really into RasTafarianism at the time. xD) however, I did receive a lot of opposition from my parents in regards to that.

posted August 10, 2015 05:55 AM            

Growing up I was the "odd looking child", and other children made that VERY apparent to me every chance they got. Horrifyingly, it created a complex about my sexuality because a lot of it was based on the fact that I was a head taller than everybody else at like 9, and I started filling in much earlier than everyone else-I got labels we didn't know the meaning of by 11 just because of that.

Additionally, I got called "fast" or "a tease" by adults because I was 13 looking at least 18 in my body, plus I was in 10th grade most of the year(birthday in May) so people thought I was a lot older than what I was. I actually got in trouble because men from very early on would cat call, and try to put me in really inappropriate situations, and being naive and being forced to embrace my femininity, I would talk back to these 21 and up guys....my dad put me on lockdown till college he was so paranoid, poor guy.

As far as perception, people stare a lot and I stir up a lot of different reactions in people(My Sun is exact my MC,so that could be it), but I've learned to live with it. I think the 8th house Venus conjunct Eros gives me this sexy,mysterious vibe with people, like a femme fatale, but when people get to know me, they say that it's a vibe honestly(I'm extremely goofy in real life lol). Another weird thing about the quindecile is, OTHER PEOPLE surprisingly are obsessed/obsessive about my looks/my appearance and will notice changes I've made to my appearance before I even really say anything. I found that really interesting.

eDIT: I'm noticing that more and more people are coming forward with admitting they were touched inappropriately, or molested with this aspect. Also being exposed to sex and/or sexual situations.

posted August 10, 2015 06:27 AM            

Aww, thanks Dreaminess. That's really kind of you.