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Geeky
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posted August 17, 2015 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus/Mars conjunct as part of a third house stellium with Pluto & Uranus.

(Mars in Libra, the others in Scorpio)

People are often attracted to me without knowing WHY. Sometimes they think I'm pretty/sexy/whatever and other times I am not their "type" at all.

And like another person mentioned earlier, the exes always come back. I've has three come back in the last 3-4 months. Crazy!

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posted August 17, 2015 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh and because of my third house stellium, people often tell me all of their life details, even painful stuff or secrets they claim to have never shared before. It happens in all environments too - work, grocery stores, Facebook, phone chats, restrooms.... it just happens.

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posted August 17, 2015 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whaaat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 17, 2015 06:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunnya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus Trine Pluto here and Venus in the 8th. Pluto is in the 11th too.

Yes I feel people either love me or to some my presence bothers them in some way. I always cause some kind of impact wherever I go.
I can see clearly who is uncomfortable with my presence even if they are trying to hide it.

What has happened a few times before is after awhile some of these people actually tried to get closer to me as if they got over the "can't be around you" thingy and the "I like you now" took place.

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posted August 17, 2015 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sunnya:
Venus Trine Pluto here and Venus in the 8th. Pluto is in the 11th too.

Yes I feel people either love me or to some my presence bothers them in some way. I always cause some kind of impact wherever I go.
I can see clearly who is uncomfortable with my presence even if they are trying to hide it.

What has happened a few times before is after awhile some of these people actually tried to get closer to me as if they got over the "can't be around you" thingy and the "I like you now" took place.


I feel this and I have a inconjunct at a pretty tight orb. I also have both moon trine venus and Venus-pluto...inconjunct though...

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posted August 17, 2015 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meatballzzzzzz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it's the Pluto/Venus.

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posted August 17, 2015 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReadingTheStars95     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Geminiyoungster:
I feel this and I have a inconjunct at a pretty tight orb. I also have both moon trine venus and Venus-pluto...inconjunct though...


I don't mean to say this in any way of offending.. But..

You say inconjunct as if though it is insignificant.. In my opinion, inconjuncts, especially when at tight orbs can actually be very noticeably felt..

I would actually say that I think aspects like semi-squares, semi-sextiles, inconjuncts and quintiles are often not given enough credit and are overlooked (of course, there are also Septiles, Noviles, and a few others.. I believe those are also something to pay attention to, but, as they are further down on the harmonics, I think having a basic understanding of the other aspects first is important..).. And I think some astrologers miss out on a lot, throwing these aspects out..

(I also think sesquiquadrates may have noticeable significance too.. However, this is probably the one aspect I haven't really spent much time looking into yet..)


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posted August 17, 2015 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminiyoungster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I don't mean to say this in any way of offending.. But..

You say inconjunct as if though it is insignificant.. In my opinion, inconjuncts, especially when at tight orbs can actually be very noticeably felt..

I would actually say that I think aspects like semi-squares, semi-sextiles, inconjuncts and quintiles are often not given enough credit and are overlooked (of course, there are also Septiles, Noviles, and a few others.. I believe those are also something to pay attention to, but, as they are further down on the harmonics, I think having a basic understanding of the other aspects first is important..).. And I think some astrologers miss out on a lot, throwing these aspects out..

(I also think sesquiquadrates may have noticeable significance too.. However, this is probably the one aspect I haven't really spent much time looking into yet..)


That's what I've been taught by astrologers that sometimes the inconjunct does not matter that much.. The only reason to why I paid attention to inconjunct in my chart is because they're all at a tight orb in my chart.
But anywhoo, I do see what your saying.

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posted August 17, 2015 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Geeky:
Oh and because of my third house stellium, people often tell me all of their life details, even painful stuff or secrets they claim to have never shared before. It happens in all environments too - work, grocery stores, Facebook, phone chats, restrooms.... it just happens.


Wow, I have a H3 Stellium as well, and this happens to me all the time and have always wondered why! It's all in Scorpio as well so I thought it might have been my Scorpiness...

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posted August 18, 2015 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for karenkellybella     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I remember reading a post of a woman who had Venus/Pluto, and she commented that with all of the men she had dated, they always called her back, months, years, even decades later, to let her know what a deep impact she made on them. That really epitomizes Venus/Pluto to me- transformative, but on a one-to-one level. Venus/Mars, on the other hand, is attractive to a broader audience because they present a good time for all.

^ that. ALL OF IT. I have venus inconjunct my pluto and it's frustrating. I've had men look me up years later to tell me that I impacted their life in some way or that I was the "one that got away" -- even when our relationships ended badly or they dumped me for some floozy one night stand (she probably had a venus/mars aspect, gah) --somehow they forget the actual way our relationship played out and only seem to recall that I am "special." Most recently, a man that I am gaga for (my venus conj his mars) fell head over heels and then abruptly withdrew completely and totally saying, "You scare me. I like you TOO much." That, of course, sounded like a challenge to this native Arian so of course I tried every which way to lure him back...all to no avail. He meant it. I scare him --- because he LIKES ME TOO MUCH....fml. Just FML - it would be funny if it weren't so sad. Heck, it is funny.

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posted August 18, 2015 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NYCdodger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have both.

mars sextile venus exact

and venus trine pluto

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posted August 19, 2015 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have both, sometimes I think I`m a Devil in an Angels skin

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posted August 20, 2015 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swift Freeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by karenkellybella:
LIKES ME TOO MUCH.... fml.

Glad to know I'm not the only one who has heard this line.

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posted August 20, 2015 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheresthemoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Swift Freeze:
Glad to know I'm not the only one who has heard this line.


Heard this from a Scorpio friend the other day, because he knows I don't want more than friendship with him. It is a sad display of manipulation. And also a good example of the Scorpio extremes. Not a week ago he was singing my praises and literally writing me poetry. Now he will hardly even hold a conversation with me, all because he is trying to manipulate. It makes me so mad.

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posted August 20, 2015 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReadingTheStars95     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Heard this from a Scorpio friend the other day, because he knows I don't want more than friendship with him. It is a sad display of manipulation. And also a good example of the Scorpio extremes. Not a week ago he was singing my praises and literally writing me poetry. Now he will hardly even hold a conversation with me, all because he is trying to manipulate. It makes me so mad.


I have to say.. Me being someone who has a few significant Pluto-related aspects.. As much as that seems like manipulation -and it definitely is in its own way- I think there is a bit more that goes into it.

You have to remember, Pluto can be a planet of all or nothing..

If someone who is strongly Plutonian really likes someone, simply being friends isn't good enough. And.. For a lot of them, even associating with that person becomes a painful experience. Am I saying this makes it right to completely cut the person off? No.. But, it isn't always being done to try and make the person feel guilty or to try and make that person like them.. Let me put it like this..

It's either all or nothing. Either a romantic relationship, or no relationship. It isn't always about manipulation, or trying to get at you. As I said, most the time if they aren't able to be in a relationship with you, and they have strong feelings for you, communicating with them is a bit like throwing salt in the wound. 'A taste of honey is worse than none at all'

Am I saying this is right? Or that it is all sunshine and rainbows? No. But, sometimes things are the way they are..


EDIT: ^^^ of course, does that mean that you should have to feel the consequences of their intense emotions? No. But, sometimes they have a hard time just ignoring those emotions and acting like taking to you is a pleasant experience. To them, it is just a reminder of what they can never have. It could even feel like a waste of time and energy for them.. Making them feel very defeated when they are around you. Of course, they realize they can't have everything they want.. But.. Yeah..

And.. Yeah, some Scorpio-heavy people will do it as a form of manipulation or to make you feel bad.. At least, initially. But, a lot of the time, it isn't because they want to make you feel bad or guilty.. They just would rather not associate with you, if they have the choice not to.

Of course, there are plutonian people who learn to overcome this problem.. And are able to communicate with people they are jnterested in.. But.. I will say, there is still probably a small part of them that feels sorrow simply being in your presence.

Am I blaming you? No. You feel the way you do, and that's all there is to it. You shouldn't feel guilty for that.

And.. Someone who is Plutonian, I believe, in time can learn to understand that. Because, in time, they are able to see the reality of another's emotions. But.. It can take a bit of time before they get to this point.

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posted August 20, 2015 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheresthemoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ReadingTheStars95:
I have to say.. Me being someone who has a few significant Pluto-related aspects.. As much as that seems like manipulation -and it definitely is in its own way- I think there is a bit more that goes into it.

You have to remember, Pluto can be a planet of all or nothing..

If someone who is strongly Plutonian really likes someone, simply being friends isn't good enough. And.. For a lot of them, even associating with that person becomes a painful experience. Am I saying this makes it right to completely cut the person off? No.. But, it isn't always being done to try and make the person feel guilty or to try and make that person like them.. Let me put it like this..

It's either all or nothing. Either a romantic relationship, or no relationship. It isn't always about manipulation, or trying to get at the person. As I said, most the time if they aren't able to be in a relationship with you, and they have strong feelings for you, communicating with them is a bit like throwing salt in the wound. 'A taste of honey is worse than none at all'

Am I saying this is right? Or that it is all sunshine and rainbows? No. But, sometimes things are the way they are..


I mean, I get it. I'm trying to convince myself to not be mad at him but it's hard, because it truly feels like manipulation. I mean I know if I were to profess my love right now things would be totally different. So to me it seems like he's holding back because he wants me to realize that it's better to be with him than to experience almost none of the friendship we had before. And I'm just not interested like that so now I've lost someone I could tell everything to.

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posted August 20, 2015 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReadingTheStars95     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 20, 2015 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for karenkellybella     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Someone else said it was manipulative behavior...and, I'm wiling to admit that it might be...but what is trying to manipulate me into doing? I mentioned that I am a double Aries, I was all "hey! ho! let's go!"

I know that I just don't "get" manipulative behavior - I can recognize it but I never understand it. I am extremely direct - and even when I'm being my version of "indirect" it's so over-the-top sarcastic/ridiculous, it's obvious that it's merely comedy of the absurd. So this guy has me in knots. What the hell am I supposed to do with THAT? Likes me too much, I understand that it's bull, but what the eff am I supposed to do with that? What reaction is he anticipating?

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posted August 20, 2015 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReadingTheStars95     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by wheresthemoon:
I mean, I get it. I'm trying to convince myself to not be mad at him but it's hard, because it truly feels like manipulation. I mean I know if I were to profess my love right now things would be totally different. So to me it seems like he's holding back because he wants me to realize that it's better to be with him than to experience almost none of the friendship we had before. And I'm just not interested like that so now I've lost someone I could tell everything to.

Yeah. I'm sorry to hear that.

Yeah.. I could understand how that would feel. It honestly, definitely would feel like manipulation.. And as I said.. That may even be part of it (as, I cannot say for certain, as I do not know this person or their feelings..) but.. With a Plutonian, it's almost hard to say forsure at times.

I wish you the best.

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posted August 21, 2015 06:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
Wow, I have a H3 Stellium as well, and this happens to me all the time and have always wondered why! It's all in Scorpio as well so I thought it might have been my Scorpiness...


*nods in agreement *

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posted August 21, 2015 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheresthemoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yeah. I'm sorry to hear that.

Yeah.. I could understand how that would feel. It honestly, definitely would feel like manipulation.. And as I said.. That may even be part of it (as, I cannot say for certain, as I do not know this person or their feelings..) but.. With a Plutonian, it's almost hard to say forsure at times.

I wish you the best.


Thank you!

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