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capricornrising
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posted August 18, 2015 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricornrising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
are you guys effected by your moon persona chart, and please explain how?

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DopGang
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posted August 18, 2015 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll have to think about it. But here's something interesting.
When I looked at it something caught my eye.

There is a woman that I had an obsession with for over 8 years. She still affects me but I ignore it. I've had time to adjust and I'm taken. It wouldn't have been a good match per my gut feeling so I never pursued even when I had the chance. Yet, obsession existed. It seems to be both ways and without saying a word it feels insanely intense.
It can't happen for many many reasons. It feels like a test of temptation almost. We must pass.

My moon persona chart very closely resembles her natal chart. In fact, it lists the same "birthday", just a different year. Yet, the moon is in the same place (my persona moon conjunct her natal moon and other placements matching up) and most of the chart. Kind of mind blowing.

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posted August 19, 2015 06:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well let's see...

Natal Moon in Cancer

MP asc in Scorpio + Sun (h8) (which is basically the degree and sign of the natal moon) + Pluto (h1)
= deep feelings, can be quite private, suspicious of others, put up a strong front to hide soft nature

MP Moon in Libra (h11) + trine Venus in Gemini (h7)
= thinks of other people's feelings before one's own, can be quite aloof, tries to make sense of emotions

MP Mercury in Leo + grand trine with Pluto in Sag (h1) & Jupiter in Pisces (h5)
= very dramatic when expressing feelings

Sounds about right. As you can already tell, I'm quite emotional, yet I can be reasonable with my feelings. To be fair, my natal Virgo mercury sextiles my natal moon, so it stabilizes it.

I find it really interesting my moon persona chart matches my moon sign description and one of the aspects to it.

I've studied other persona charts and if you analyze them hard enough, you will usually see deeper and fuller interpretations of the planets and angles in your natal chart. Sometimes, you'll even see things not seen in your natal or progressed chart.

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posted August 19, 2015 06:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReadingTheStars95     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Holy crap..


Thanks for mentioning this. It's a chart I never really spent much time looking at..

I am very interested in this chart now..

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Soltze
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posted August 20, 2015 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How can I make a Moon Persona chart? Never heard about it

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posted August 20, 2015 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DopGang:
I'll have to think about it. But here's something interesting.
When I looked at it something caught my eye.

There is a woman that I had an obsession with for over 8 years. She still affects me but I ignore it. I've had time to adjust and I'm taken. It wouldn't have been a good match per my gut feeling so I never pursued even when I had the chance. Yet, obsession existed. It seems to be both ways and without saying a word it feels insanely intense.
It can't happen for many many reasons. It feels like a test of temptation almost. We must pass.

My moon persona chart very closely resembles her natal chart. In fact, it lists the same "birthday", just a different year. Yet, the moon is in the same place (my persona moon conjunct her natal moon and other placements matching up) and most of the chart. Kind of mind blowing.


I had someone do the exact same thing but it was my Mars persona, they were born the same day that my Mars was born....weird!

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posted August 20, 2015 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gabby:
I had someone do the exact same thing but it was my Mars persona, they were born the same day that my Mars was born....weird!

I was roommate with the person whose chart is my mars persona (different rising). She definitely taught me to assert my boundaries by being so "boundless" herself.

I was also roommate with the person whose chart is my venus persona (also different rising). Venus is my natal ruler and her natal rising is on my Venus Persona MC. Knowing her taught me to know to which extent I can be loving and loyal to someone. And since I have an 8th stellium for my venus persona, it definitely brought up very serious, 8th house stuff.

I met the person who has my moon chart. Also different rising. We worked together on a project and we clash in our work styles. I found her unrealistic although I did appreciate working with her.

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posted August 20, 2015 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gabby:
I had someone do the exact same thing but it was my Mars persona, they were born the same day that my Mars was born....weird!

It kind of sucks!
The physical attraction is crazy. Though normally I wouldn't think much of her. It's like some kind of power.
But, it has to be ignored AND I think nothing would happen even if I were single, so that's good. I just don't like it because it's like I'm not in control somehow.

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posted August 20, 2015 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Soltze:
How can I make a Moon Persona chart? Never heard about it


Soltze,, if you have an astrology program just ingress the Sun to the exact degree of your moon in the year immediately after you were born or follow these http://www.lynnkoiner.com/astrology-articles/persona-charts

instructions for astro.com
Just looked at mine, seems if valid my life is about to radically change.

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posted August 20, 2015 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Soltze:
How can I make a Moon Persona chart? Never heard about it


Soltze,, if you have an astrology program just ingress the Sun to the exact degree of your moon in the year immediately after you were born or follow these http://www.lynnkoiner.com/astrology-articles/persona-charts

instructions for astro.com
Just looked at mine, seems if valid my life is about to radically change.

I think it perhaps more important to do your Suns' ruler, such if your are Libra when did after your birth Sun first conjunct your Venus position

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posted August 20, 2015 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by theunknown:
I was roommate with the person whose chart is my mars persona (different rising). She definitely taught me to assert my boundaries by being so "boundless" herself.

I was also roommate with the person whose chart is my venus persona (also different rising). Venus is my natal ruler and her natal rising is on my Venus Persona MC. Knowing her taught me to know to which extent I can be loving and loyal to someone. And since I have an 8th stellium for my venus persona, it definitely brought up very serious, 8th house stuff.

I met the person who has my moon chart. Also different rising. We worked together on a project and we clash in our work styles. I found her unrealistic although I did appreciate working with her.



All of these ppl where reflecting back to you your core parts....the one with the moon chart shows you emotionally what you feel about yourself. I'd ponder deeply over that relationship and revisit your feelings and why you felt like you did. It's so rare to meet 3 ppl with your different personas charts...you need to see these as a message to look deeper look deep enough to see yourself from the inside out.

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posted August 20, 2015 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DopGang:
It kind of sucks!
The physical attraction is crazy. Though normally I wouldn't think much of her. It's like some kind of power.
But, it has to be ignored AND I think nothing would happen even if I were single, so that's good. I just don't like it because it's like I'm not in control somehow.

It's an odd and kind of uncomfortable dynamic. These ppl hold part of you out for everyone to see and have no idea what they are doing. At least we perceive be it that way and either love it or hate it depending on how we personally relate to it within ourselves.
It's just weird the way we are drawn to them...moth to a flame!

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posted August 20, 2015 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes

my Moon persona chart has an exact Moon-Pluto conjunction and I am explosive with my emotions.

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posted August 21, 2015 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
yes

my Moon persona chart has an exact Moon-Pluto conjunction and I am explosive with my emotions.


I have a packed 5th house in my moon persona...not sure what that means, and an aries moon exact inconjunct my Sun/natal Moon.

Libra Merc, Pluto, Venus, Mars, Juno are 0-2.5 degree conjunct in my 5th...scorp Uranus, NN, Vertex are also in 5th.

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posted August 21, 2015 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, in the very least I would look at the Moon-Persona chart. It is a little complement to the natal one, which can be looked at as the Sun-Persona.


In my case the funny coincidence is that the Moon in my MP chart is conjunct my natal Sun exact.

While the Sun in MP chart is ALWAYS conjunct the Moon in natal chart (as this is the definition of a Persona chart), the same is not necessarily true for the MOon of the MP chart, so this is just an amusing coincidence for me.


natal chart (Sun-Persona)
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Sun: 25°56 Sag
Moon: 17°06 Aqua


MP
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Sun: 17°06 Aqua
Moon: 25°30 Sag

How funny! I have looked at it before, but I realized just NOW that my MP Venus on 9 Pisces is not just conjunct my natal Jupiter-Ceres, but opposing Mr Sag`s natal Mars-Jupiter (and right now conj. his pr Venus).
Might explain a bit of why he has such an affect on my emotional being.

The thing is my Moon is pretty under-aspected in the synastry, but the Moon Persona chart seems to be rather triggered.

with my MP Venus opposing his Mars-Jupiter
and my MP Moon conjunct his Sun-Moon-MC

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posted August 21, 2015 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my moon persona chart
(the natal chart of my emotional core I suppose)

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posted August 21, 2015 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gabby:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by theunknown:
[b] I was roommate with the person whose chart is my mars persona (different rising). She definitely taught me to assert my boundaries by being so "boundless" herself.

I was also roommate with the person whose chart is my venus persona (also different rising). Venus is my natal ruler and her natal rising is on my Venus Persona MC. Knowing her taught me to know to which extent I can be loving and loyal to someone. And since I have an 8th stellium for my venus persona, it definitely brought up very serious, 8th house stuff.

I met the person who has my moon chart. Also different rising. We worked together on a project and we clash in our work styles. I found her unrealistic although I did appreciate working with her.



All of these ppl where reflecting back to you your core parts....the one with the moon chart shows you emotionally what you feel about yourself. I'd ponder deeply over that relationship and revisit your feelings and why you felt like you did. It's so rare to meet 3 ppl with your different personas charts...you need to see these as a message to look deeper look deep enough to see yourself from the inside out. [/B][/QUOTE]


Well I just don't know how to interpret the chart. I think different risings affect the chart significantly so even though I was drawn to all three, I eventually found out our different natures.
I generally got along with all three though so there weren't any hard feelings.
I was also going through Saturn and Pluto transit and met all three in the same year

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posted August 21, 2015 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I need to research these, but I have so many things that I need to research!

I'm curious how these work. So for example in our moon persona chart, what does mars do? Venus? Mercury?
As far as our emotions.
In other words, if the planets are characters in our chart, what role does each play in a persona chart?

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posted August 21, 2015 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Seimei:

Soltze,, if you have an astrology program just ingress the Sun to the exact degree of your moon in the year immediately after you were born or follow these http://www.lynnkoiner.com/astrology-articles/persona-charts

instructions for astro.com
Just looked at mine, seems if valid my life is about to radically change.


Thanks Seimei, going to check it out

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posted August 21, 2015 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the planets keep their functions, but int he persona chart in relation to the overall persona.

So for example let`s say we are looking at the North Node, what you are striving to develop,l growing towards.

In your natal chart it is in a general personality sense.

In persona charts it might be:

Moon Persona: the growth-destination in terms of your emotional development (or what MOon means for you).

Venus Persona: the aim, destination of your love-nature, attraction, relationships etc.

I think the first planet we should check in a persona chart is the planet that is the significator of the persona chart itself (of course after checking the angles. lol)


In a Moon Persona chart I have a particular eye on the Moon-position. as it is sort of the emotional core of the emotions. lol Very pure Moon-symbolisym

In a Venus Persona chart itw ould be Venus and so on.

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posted August 21, 2015 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted August 21, 2015 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, going to check the moon persona chart more carefully. But what already impressed me is that I have a natal yod with Uranus as appex.
In the Uranus persona chart there is also a yod involving moon, venus and jupiter.

I'm definetly curious now!

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posted August 22, 2015 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has anyone done synastry between persona charts?

Say A's MOON persona overlayed B's PLUTO persona, for example.

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posted August 22, 2015 07:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have counted 3 yods involving CHIRON so far. I know it has been said that CHIRON is not a classical components, however, I'm thinking when there are multiple instances I should probably take notice.

ETA: Make that 4. I'm thinking this probably isn't notable actually, and is a pattern that will emerge as a result of the natal, rather than something to investigate.
Wish I knew more of the mathematica of astrology!

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posted August 22, 2015 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have quite a few large stelliums throughout the persona charts.

Bigger than the stellium in my natal.

My Jupiter persona chart has a big stellium in Scorpio, this is interesting, as I tend to feel those with Scorpio placements as mentors in some way. I know the nature of Pluto is transformation, but I am so comfortable with this energy, I think this Jupiter persona has something to do with it (and strong Pluto in natal).

Anyway, just affirming that I am finding coherent connections from persona to natal.

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