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Topic: Mars/Pluto
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hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 10205 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted August 20, 2015 11:25 PM
On a scale of 1-10 how prominent would Mars inconjunct Pluto be in a natal chart?IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 12396 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 20, 2015 11:30 PM
Depends on the orb.If it's exact, it could be a 9, in my (amateur) opinion. I have sun quincunx Mars with 0.15 orb, and it's so noticeable. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 10205 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted August 21, 2015 12:20 AM
Orbs. Can you believe I've been here this long and cannot, for the life of me, care or remember how to figure those out! Just a second while I do some googling.IP: Logged |
ReadingTheStars95 Knowflake Posts: 661 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted August 21, 2015 12:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: Orbs. Can you believe I've been here this long and cannot, for the life of me, care or remember how to figure those out! Just a second while I do some googling.
basically.. how close the degrees are.. an orb of 2, for example, would be 2 degrees apart IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 10205 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted August 21, 2015 12:26 AM
Mars is at 16.5 degrees Gem and Pluto is 14 degrees Scorpio. I *think* it's an orb of less than 2? IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 10205 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted August 21, 2015 12:26 AM
quote: Originally posted by ReadingTheStars95: basically.. how close the degrees are.. an orb of 2, for example, would be 2 degrees apart
Not for a quincunx aspect though? I'm assuming you mean the difference between the two planet's own degrees? IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 12396 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 21, 2015 12:42 AM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: I *think* it's an orb of less than 2?
Yes, if Pluto is exact at 14 Scorpio. If Pluto goes beyond 14.5, then it's over 2 degrees orb. So this quincunx does count, and with that orb range, I would judge it around a 7, on your scale.
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 12396 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 21, 2015 12:44 AM
My Mars is also at 16 Gemini, my sun is a late 15 Cap. So my sun and your Pluto make yods with our Marses.Just to complicate everything for fun. IP: Logged |
fireopal09 Knowflake Posts: 583 From: Dallas,TX, Us Registered: Oct 2010
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posted August 21, 2015 12:47 AM
http://youtu.be/BURM7l6_pvg ------------------ Claire "When going gets weird, the weird turn pro." -HST IP: Logged |
RoseLily Knowflake Posts: 55 From: Registered: Jul 2015
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posted August 21, 2015 01:09 AM
IMO 2 orbs degree is wide for a quincunx :/, especially one involving an outer planet. However, if Pluto aspected the luminaries, chart ruler or ascendant, I may go up to 4, but 2 is very wide and I would only consider it as minor, unless it is involved into a strong pattern like a yod for example...IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 12396 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 21, 2015 01:14 AM
Really? I never heard of 2 degrees being too wide for anything, except maybe a combust or cazimi But who has them?? LOLAstrodienst: quote: An aspect of 150 degrees between two planets. The quincunx is thought to be one of the most important minor aspects. It is valid with an orb of up to three degrees. Even astrologers who do not usually work with minor aspects often include quincunx aspects in their interpretations.The quincunx is classified neither as a harmonious nor as an aspect of tension. It indicates potential that is difficult to realise. In contrast to the square or opposition it doesn't usually feel like a significant source of tension, demanding action.
http://wiki.astro.com/astrowiki/en/Quincunx IP: Logged |
Free Leon Knowflake Posts: 205 From: California Registered: Apr 2015
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posted August 21, 2015 02:58 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: Astrodienst: [QUOTE]An aspect of 150 degrees between two planets. The quincunx is thought to be one of the most important minor aspects. It is valid with an orb of up to three degrees. Even astrologers who do not usually work with minor aspects often include quincunx aspects in their interpretations. The quincunx is classified neither as a harmonious nor as an aspect of tension. It indicates potential that is difficult to realise. In contrast to the square or opposition it doesn't usually feel like a significant source of tension, demanding action.
http://wiki.astro.com/astrowiki/en/Quincunx [/QUOTE] Valid with an orb of up to three degrees So a Quincunx is valid between 147 and 153. One degree less and you're in Bi-Quintile territory, one degree more and you're in Tri-Septile (154.285714) territory. Wait a second.. the orbs for the Quintile series of aspects is 3 degrees too. So the valid range of a Bi-Quintile is between 141 and 147.. that number.. 147.. I don't know what it is, but something tells me that it should be its own aspect.. IP: Logged |
ReadingTheStars95 Knowflake Posts: 661 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted August 21, 2015 03:07 AM
(Agh.. I accidentally deleted a large portion of this post, I need to rewrite it..) IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Moderator Posts: 10205 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted August 21, 2015 05:27 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: My Mars is also at 16 Gemini, my sun is a late 15 Cap. So my sun and your Pluto make yods with our Marses.Just to complicate everything for fun.
Er...yods? I've seen them mentioned before but how do yods even show up in our lives? IP: Logged |
Soltze Knowflake Posts: 335 From: Registered: Mar 2015
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posted August 21, 2015 05:41 AM
Yods? In my case they give me all kind of weird problems in the house where the appex is. Like coincidences but not the good kindIP: Logged |