posted August 21, 2015 08:50 AM            

Lets say you lack planets in fixed signs (Leo, taurus, aqua, and scorp)

BUT you have most of your planets (asteroids or MC/IC) in your 2nd, 5th, 11th, and 8th houses.

posted August 21, 2015 01:04 PM            

A person with a stellium of Gemini planets in 2nd house, doesn't make them more "fixed".

But it does tend to make them 'specialize'- so to speak- on 2nd house matters.

posted August 21, 2015 01:39 PM            

The opposition void gives me great clarity, not to brag, but people have, always, come to me for advice because I do have a clarity and a way to wipe out useless info.

The earth void makes me a mess in my house, closet, desk etc

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posted August 21, 2015 01:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You can have Voids of various things. I have an opposition Void and an earth void. They are very pronounced as ANY Void is. It is defining for people.

The opposition void gives me great clarity, not to brag, but people have, always, come to me for advice because I do have a clarity and a way to wipe out useless info.

The earth void makes me a mess in my house, closet, desk etc

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posted August 21, 2015 02:02 PM            

For me, I am very disorganized. My closet is a grab bag. I pray before I have to go in there

My dishes are all kinds from all different sets I got.

I hate details for parties, etc

I don't notice if something is broken until someone comes over and tells me that that pan has no handle

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posted August 21, 2015 02:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Earth void is no planets in earth. Randall is a Fire Void. Doux Reve is a Fire Void. I have articles on the Voids. I am fascinated by them because I have one, prolly lol

For me, I am very disorganized. My closet is a grab bag. I pray before I have to go in there

My dishes are all kinds from all different sets I got.

I hate details for parties, etc

I don't notice if something is broken until someone comes over and tells me that that pan has no handle

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Oh ok, you meant the elements I see. I have planets in Earth and my closest probably looks worse than yours lol no worries!

posted August 21, 2015 06:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Earth void is no planets in earth. Randall is a Fire Void. Doux Reve is a Fire Void. I have articles on the Voids. I am fascinated by them because I have one, prolly lol

For me, I am very disorganized. My closet is a grab bag. I pray before I have to go in there

My dishes are all kinds from all different sets I got.

I hate details for parties, etc

I don't notice if something is broken until someone comes over and tells me that that pan has no handle

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Ami Anne, I too have earth void. But I DO have my MC in Taurus--does that take away my void? Also Vertex is in Capricorn...

Oddly, I used to have a problem with being disorganized--but I think my Saturn on my ASC has taught me over the years to be disciplined.. Though I always love being organized...

What are some other traits of an Earth Void?

Can you post your article on Voids on here?

posted August 21, 2015 06:56 PM            

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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
Ami Anne, I too have earth void. But I DO have my MC in Taurus--does that take away my void? Also Vertex is in Capricorn...

Oddly, I used to have a problem with being disorganized--but I think my Saturn on my ASC has taught me over the years to be disciplined.. Though I always love being organized...

What are some other traits of an Earth Void?

Can you post your article on Voids on here?

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posted August 21, 2015 07:39 PM            

The angles don't count toward voids.

The angles are positions in space, not bodies of mass, I am quite sure.

Anyway, they don't count toward voids.

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posted August 21, 2015 07:43 PM            

Sure, I will see what I have on Voids for you.

The angles, vertex and Chiron do not count toward voids.

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posted August 21, 2015 07:44 PM            

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posted August 21, 2015 07:46 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
My Sun, Mercury, and Neptune are in Earth houses, and I have nothing in Earth except for asteroids. I think the house placement can help to balance things out there.

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They can help but it is a secondary kind of energy and the void dominates ime

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posted August 21, 2015 08:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
http://mychristianpsychic.com/journal/elemental-voids/
http://mychristianpsychic.com/journal/elemental-voids-earth-void-fire-void-w ater-void-or-air-void/

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These are both great articles. I relate to the grounding aspect of what you say about Earth Voids. I have a lot of air and water in my chart--so I float with my feelings so to speak. When I was younger, I found it odd that I dated so many Earth signs (Capricorns and Taurus) when I thought as a Scorpio I'd be attracting water signs...

Interesting about the wealth piece....I hope that comes true for me! I DO have Taurus as my MC.. And Virgo rules my House 2...hmm....and my house 6 is ruled by Capricorn...Here's to Void Magic!

Ami--would that mean Earth ruled houses would be tough for an Earth Void?

posted August 21, 2015 08:39 PM            

Most everyone I have ever dated has been an earth Sun and often Moon, too.

I am attracted to the grounding of earth.

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posted August 21, 2015 08:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Thank you, Scorp! I am air and water, too. We make good counselors and writers because we can access our feelings and then communicate them.

Most everyone I have ever dated has been an earth Sun and often Moon, too.

I am attracted to the grounding of earth.

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posted August 21, 2015 09:03 PM            

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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
Its ok, its all in the same area.

Ami how are the 4 angles not valid enough?

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It is not that angles are not "valid", per se.

It is just that Voids do not consider angles when figuring out Voids.

Angles are not planets. The are points in space.

The angles are FACTORS. They mitigate the Void. They affect the Void but they do not DEFINE the Void, NYC

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posted August 22, 2015 12:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Comatoes:
Well in some of the astrology books I've read, not saying this is written in stone. They say you can substitute what you're lacking in Elements with Houses, and some even go as far and say aspects. If you really think about it, it makes sense. For instance, some books say Sun conjunct Mars can help with people who lack Fire or that having a stellium in the 1st house brings in Fire energy. Of course nothing beats the real thing, but if you can get a little help in your chart who's fighting it.

I've seen this time and time again, the houses really do have a powerful affect on people. A house is one of the most important structures in a person's life, without a house you would wander around and feel directionless. So the houses in the chart is your foundation and where you're coming from. Houses/modality can modify the chart because houses are time sensitive like the Personal Points, anyone can have the same signs, but a house tells you about all that energy, especially when you get into Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, where signs are generational.

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I completely agree with this.

posted August 22, 2015 08:42 AM            

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Originally posted by Comatoes:
Well in some of the astrology books I've read, not saying this is written in stone. They say you can substitute what you're lacking in Elements with Houses, and some even go as far and say aspects. If you really think about it, it makes sense. For instance, some books say Sun conjunct Mars can help with people who lack Fire or that having a stellium in the 1st house brings in Fire energy. Of course nothing beats the real thing, but if you can get a little help in your chart who's fighting it.

I've seen this time and time again, the houses really do have a powerful affect on people. A house is one of the most important structures in a person's life, without a house you would wander around and feel directionless. So the houses in the chart is your foundation and where you're coming from. Houses/modality can modify the chart because houses are time sensitive like the Personal Points, anyone can have the same signs, but a house tells you about all that energy, especially when you get into Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, where signs are generational.

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This goes back to my original post in a way. I have Uranus, Neptune, and Saturn in the 12th house and Venus, Chiron, and Jupiter in the 6th house and although I have no planets in Pisces or Virgo, I still resonate with that mutable energy very well. The Planets and (yes i still believe) angles that take up certain houses brings out that energy into your life. So if you lack planets in a fixed sign yet have several planets or angles in many of your fixed houses, it will bring out a more fixed quality to your nature.