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aquagembaby
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posted February 01, 2016 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquagembaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been told by A LOT of people that in the beginning they thought I was "stuck up," and friends tell me I have "resting b**** face" lol. Even when I'm at the club, one guy came up to me and asked me why I "looked like I wasn't having fun" even though I was dancing..I've also been told I have good poker face.

What are things in the chart that you have, or you've seen someone else have, that could result in such a demeanor? I like to joke around and I love to make new friends, but I'm realizing maybe that I unintentionally give off bad vibes. Help.

Here are some things I have that I think MIGHT attribute to this:
-Sun conjunct Saturn
-Chart ruler in 8th house
-2nd house Sun

If you have any experience w/ any of these, or something similar, please let me know.

**Ignore the transits. It's not recent**

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posted February 01, 2016 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 4lifephrases     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder whether it is just Sag Rising and Aqua Sun mix. I have Scorp Sun and Sag Rising and I get that too to some degree.

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posted February 01, 2016 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by aquagembaby:
[B]I've been told by A LOT of people that in the beginning they thought I was "stuck up," and friends tell me I have "resting b**** face" lol. Even when I'm at the club, one guy came up to me and asked me why I "looked like I wasn't having fun" even though I was dancing..I've also been told I have good poker face.

What are things in the chart that you have, or you've seen someone else have, that could result in such a demeanor? I like to joke around and I love to make new friends, but I'm realizing maybe that I unintentionally give off bad vibes. Help.

>aquagembaby?
Time of transit chart? Or rather why is that transit time with your natal, > Even when I'm at the club, one guy came up to me and asked me why <

Maybe your cappy energy just looks very serious, and people who don't know you well have little idea what your fun face looks like?

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hypatia238
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posted February 01, 2016 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now I am curious...post your pic. I have sag rising too....

You have AC Duad in Taurus and AC dwad in Virgo. If my time of birth is correct we have Sag rising around the same degree.

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posted February 01, 2016 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquagembaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 4lifephrases:
I wonder whether it is just Sag Rising and Aqua Sun mix. I have Scorp Sun and Sag Rising and I get that too to some degree.

But I have a good friend that's a Scorpio Sun/Sag Rising and he's extremely friendly and quite the opposite! So it has to be something else...I guess we are not the 'typical' Sag Risings...

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Originally posted by Seimei:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by aquagembaby:
[B]I've been told by A LOT of people that in the beginning they thought I was "stuck up," and friends tell me I have "resting b**** face" lol. Even when I'm at the club, one guy came up to me and asked me why I "looked like I wasn't having fun" even though I was dancing..I've also been told I have good poker face.

What are things in the chart that you have, or you've seen someone else have, that could result in such a demeanor? I like to joke around and I love to make new friends, but I'm realizing maybe that I unintentionally give off bad vibes. Help.

>aquagembaby?
Time of transit chart? Or rather why is that transit time with your natal, > Even when I'm at the club, one guy came up to me and asked me why <

Maybe your cappy energy just looks very serious, and people who don't know you well have little idea what your fun face looks like?


Oh my bad those transits were from earlier this month please ignore them!

Yeah I was thinking Capricorn but those are all of my outer planets though. I do have Saturn Trine MC though.

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Now I am curious...post your pic. I have sag rising too....

You have AC Duad in Taurus and AC dwad in Virgo. If my time of birth is correct we have Sag rising around the same degree.


I may post a pic haha I'm kinda nervous though D:
Duad? I'm not familiar with that.

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posted February 01, 2016 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^Duad Table: http://aliceportman.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Duad-Table1.pdf

I bumped a thread for you about Duads and Dwads, they are what explains why two twins are different, they make a chart more dynamic adding more information to each placement.

Like a Venus in Gemini with Duad in Scorpio will be more intense and attracted to intense women than a Venus in Gemini with duad in Aqua or Libra for example.

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posted February 01, 2016 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know a Sun in Scorp with Sag rising too and they are very upfront and tell you what they think, and friendly yes, very similar to me actually and I have sag rising; she is still intense like a scorpio but having sag rising with moon in aries makes her very upfront, what you see is what you get, she doesn't play games, there is no mystery. She has Sun-venus-mars in scorpio yet I have to say that her moon in aries and sag rising really show perhaps even more so in her personality or just as much.

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posted February 01, 2016 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquagembaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I know a Sun in Scorp with Sag rising too and they are very upfront and tell you what they think, and friendly yes, very similar to me actually and I have sag rising; she is still intense like a scorpio but having sag rising with moon in aries makes her very upfront, what you see is what you get, she doesn't play games, there is no mystery. She has Sun-venus-mars in scorpio yet I have to say that her moon in aries and sag rising really show perhaps even more so in her personality or just as much.


Oh I see so you can have a duad attached to your ASC as well? Hmm do you think this is accurate as far as your own ASC?

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posted February 01, 2016 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spongebob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon square midheaven is my guess. Makes you come off cold, along with the midheaven being just barely in Virgo.

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posted February 01, 2016 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquagembaby:
Oh I see so you can have a duad attached to your ASC as well? Hmm do you think this is accurate as far as your own ASC?


That is the thing based on birth certificate I was born at 1200PM but my mom says I was born around 1230PM so I don't know what to think.

But based on birth certicate I am around your AC degree and I have duad in Taurus and Dwad in Virgo and I was told by another user that I look like sag with virgo and taurus which makes me think my birth certificate is accurate.

How would a sag riser with Virgo Dwad and Taurus Duad be?

I am Upfront and outspoken but also reserved and shy at times with no desire to talk, practical, careful with money but also generous; motivated by travel and self reflection, lover of animals, nature and the mountains. Someone who loves dining and trying foods from different cultures.

But I have sun in virgo so I guess the only way for me to get an idea if my time of birth is correct is by seeing if I have Taurus traits bc I don't have TAURUS anywhere! it would just be my AC and Venus and Mars DUAD. I am married to an AC Taurus riser.

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posted February 01, 2016 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquagembaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
That is the thing based on birth certificate I was born at 1200PM but my mom says I was born around 1230PM so I don't know what to think.

But based on birth certicate I am around your AC degree and I have duad in Taurus and Dwad in Virgo and I was told by another user that I look like sag with virgo and taurus which makes me think my birth certificate is accurate.

How would a sag riser with Virgo Dwad and Taurus Duad be?

I am Upfront and outspoken but also reserved and shy at times with no desire to talk, practical, careful with money but also generous; motivated by travel and self reflection, lover of animals, nature and the mountains. Someone who loves dining and trying foods from different cultures.

But I have sun in virgo so I guess the only way for me to get an idea if my time of birth is correct is by seeing if I have Taurus traits bc I don't have TAURUS anywhere! it would just be my AC and Venus and Mars DUAD. I am married to an AC Taurus riser.


Hmm interesting...do you think the duad is the main reason for not being like a "typical" Sag Rising? Or are there other factors in your chart you think could be the reason?

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Moon square midheaven is my guess. Makes you come off cold, along with the midheaven being just barely in Virgo.

Oh I didn't even think of that one. Thanks!

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posted February 01, 2016 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquagembaby:
Oh I didn't even think of that one. Thanks!

Do you think you are not a typical Sag riser?? Do you identify with having Duad in Taurus??

I feel I am typical Sag riser tbh and If I was born at 12:35PM I would have Sag rising with duad in Leo and Dwad in Sag which fits me and that is around the time my mom thinks I was born.

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posted February 02, 2016 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquagembaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Do you think you are not a typical Sag riser?? Do you identify with having Duad in Taurus??

I feel I am typical Sag riser tbh and If I was born at 12:35PM I would have Sag rising with duad in Leo and Dwad in Sag which fits me and that is around the time my mom thinks I was born.


I identify heavily w/ my Sag Rising, and honestly I can't think of myself with any Taurus traits, I mean not that I can think of right now. It's just that I guess others don't see me as a Sag Rising as much as I see it for myself.

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posted February 02, 2016 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where's the pic???

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posted February 02, 2016 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquagembaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DopGang:
Where's the pic???

Ah alright >.< will delete later lol sorry for the size

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posted February 03, 2016 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RoseLily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Transit Saturn on your AC, which is probably enhancing other aspects, adding a certain severity or even frustration to your expression.

I have this natally, and without having this b**** face you're talking about, it definitely add severity and coldness to my expression.
As a gemini I'm usually very expressive facially, but my neutral face is close to a scowl or a frown.
I may be cynical, but I'm not frustrated :<

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posted February 03, 2016 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a guy and I have sun conjunct saturn and people tell me I appear arrogant and/or standoffish. Which is weird because I am very friendly and down to earth.

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posted February 03, 2016 02:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquagembaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RoseLily:
Transit Saturn on your AC, which is probably enhancing other aspects, adding a certain severity or even frustration to your expression.

I have this natally, and without having this b**** face you're talking about, it definitely add severity and coldness to my expression.
As a gemini I'm usually very expressive facially, but my neutral face is close to a scowl or a frown.
I may be cynical, but I'm not frustrated :<


Ahh good call on the transit Saturn...

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I'm a guy and I have sun conjunct saturn and people tell me I appear arrogant and/or standoffish. Which is weird because I am very friendly and down to earth.

I can relate...now I really hate Saturn lol

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posted February 03, 2016 05:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks!

I don't think you look like a mean person. But then one picture may not tell the whole story.
I get told that I look mean. In fact, I was told just yesterday by I coworker. I didn't take offense.
I blame Pluto on my asc for that. I don't smile unless I find something funny. It's SO hard to smile just for appearances.

In your case. I don't know. Maybe Jupiter opposite sun. I'm not sure what else. There's Venus square mars but I'm doubting that as a cause.

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posted February 03, 2016 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquagembaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DopGang:
Thanks!

I don't think you look like a mean person. But then one picture may not tell the whole story.
I get told that I look mean. In fact, I was told just yesterday by I coworker. I didn't take offense.
I blame Pluto on my asc for that. I don't smile unless I find something funny. It's SO hard to smile just for appearances.

In your case. I don't know. Maybe Jupiter opposite sun. I'm not sure what else. There's Venus square mars but I'm doubting that as a cause.


Yeah I'm the same! I only smile or laugh if I truly feel like it. I really have to force fake smiles or laughter, which comes out awkward at that point anyway.

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posted February 03, 2016 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are so adorable!! I had a feeling you would be bc of your screen name lol. Thanks for posting...I see the AC taurus duad in you.

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posted February 04, 2016 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Having pluto in the 1st house can make you look like your a b**** or as*****.

With this aspect, people will be intrigued or repulsed.

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posted February 04, 2016 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You dont seem like a B to me but if you never smile that could give that impresion perhaps or make you seem stuck up and uncaring.

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My Mercury in Aries makes me say things without thinking, and some of those things can be mean if I'm in the heat of the moment in an argument. I have also been known to say offhand remarks without thinking. So yeah, Mercury in Aries in general has a tendency to sound bitchy when talking.

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posted February 04, 2016 05:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a similar resting face and I've been told the same thing "I thought you were stuck up."

Also with the dancing thing. I look miserable or mad, but I'm in the zone.

I have a second house Sun. I will have to look on astro.com to see what else it could be.

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