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Odette
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posted February 26, 2016 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is just advice I have for anyone dating - or thinking about dating - an Aries...

If an Aries person doesn't want to spend all their time with you... it's not because "they are not that into you"...
It's because they have a life.

It's not about you.
It's about them!

There is a myth floating around that when you truly love someone... you *like* being smothered by them and actively want them to be all over you.
While this myth may well apply to some folk... (e.g. Cancer, Taurus, Libra people...) - It absolutely does not apply to Aries!

An Aries person will never in a million years WANT to be smothered.

It doesn't really matter how into you they are.
They could be so into you.. and so in love that they go weak at the knees and their heart explodes in a colourful array of rainbows and fluffy bunnies - every time you lock eyes.....

And they STILL will not want to be smothered... or be joint at the hip... or spend -all- of their time with you - or talk to you all the time... or want you to come over whenever they are alone... or want you in their space, touching them, hugging them, kissing them - whenever you happen to be close-by.

You have two options.... You can learn to like this about Aries... or you can... LEAVE and find yourself a Cancer.

Thank you for your attention..

And out.

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posted February 26, 2016 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is very interesting to me.. I am truly fascinated by all the fire signs as they seem "notorious" for this according to classic astrology.

Ever since my first date with my boyfriend, we have never spent a day apart. Sure, there were some days when we could only see each other for 5 minutes, but a *day* hasn't gone by since that date. And we're coming up on four years together!

What baffles me is that he truly isn't sick of me. I almost can't believe it when I really allow myself to think of this objectively, especially considering his chart. This is a dude with a natal Venus/Uranus conjunction and his Sun/Mercury/Mars/Neptune in Sagittarius conjunct in the 5th! So a major Sagittarius stellium in a Leo house.

Why is Aries different in this regard?

Because I have absolutely noticed it to be true. Leo can be pretty "needy" and, in my experience, Sagittarius can honestly go either way. But why is Aries such the free spirit in the fire trio? Something to ponder.

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posted February 26, 2016 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Duly noted! and thanks for sharing!

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Odette
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posted February 26, 2016 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL hypatia!!!

athenaia - Yes Sagittarius...

Hmmm...

That is indeed an interesting question... and one that I've deeply pondered.

WHY is it that Sagittarius is not more space-loving... like Aries? I would also love to have an answer to that.

I would love for God.. or the Universe.. or an astrologer... or a psychic.. or *anyone* out there... to tell me WHY.

I've been asking myself WHY for three months now.. and STILL don't have a real answer

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posted February 26, 2016 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And when a Sagittarius falls in love with an Aries... and the Aries person loves them back and they are both really attracted.. and Sagittarius fails to FLIPPING understand that this not about them and keeps taking Aries' need of space so personally... eventually

They break up...

And they are both heartbroken.

Because this is JUST the way life is.

Because life sucks.

And then you die.

Yup.

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posted February 26, 2016 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So you're into him?

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It's confusing.

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posted February 26, 2016 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Empty Spaces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting..thanks for sharing!!!

I love aries guys cuz as mentioned in other thread they fit my venus in pieces needs.But i dont think i will handle that side of them pretty well..even with my "i-adore-my-personal-space"gemini moon.

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posted February 26, 2016 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well they do get married and then function sorta like other married couples

So, I guess they are willing to give up personal space sometimes.

Not trying to play devil's advocate, I'm just thinking of the Aries people I know.

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posted February 27, 2016 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Well they do get married and then function sorta like other married couples

So, I guess they are willing to give up personal space sometimes.

Not trying to play devil's advocate, I'm just thinking of the Aries people I know.



Now that you mention it -- my Aries friend (with lots of Gemini!) is not very space-loving either.

Neither are two other guys I know.

But, my friend's boyfriend - Aries with Cap moon, Aries Venus, Taurus mars - is extremely space-loving.

Maybe it's the combination of the independence of the Aries with the pragmatism of the Cap moon..? Earth moons don't see emotional 'triggers' in the same way. They're stable in their love, to some extent immune to stimuli that would see-saw another soul.

Edit: Odette, just show your OP to that guy. I'm sure your grievance will be heard right away.

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posted February 27, 2016 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been with many Aries men (or Aries as top ruling sign) and the ONLY one that was like you describe had a Pisces Sun, Scorp Moon with Venus, Mercury and Mars in Aries. I've been with Aries Suns and Moons. They were all superiorly more clingy than my Cap Moon could handle. And my Cancer Sun

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posted February 27, 2016 03:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charlie:
I've been with many Aries men (or Aries as top ruling sign) and the ONLY one that was like you describe had a Pisces Sun, Scorp Moon with Venus, Mercury and Mars in Aries. I've been with Aries Suns and Moons. They were all superiorly more clingy than my Cap Moon could handle. And my Cancer Sun

Interesting, Charlie!
One more data point in favour of Cap moon.

Have we been on the wrong trail all along?

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posted February 27, 2016 04:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Smothered? yes, Aries will squirm.

When Aries is happy in a relationship they will give you space and expect it in return.
They will also trust you and expect that in return.
Don't question their integrity and jealousy is a big turnoff.

Aries and Sag don't really "serious" argue that much because when Sag starts losing, they resort to humor and that soon makes the Aries laugh.

Saggies will eventually feel that smother as well.

Great insight Odette

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posted February 27, 2016 05:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaminess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"While this myth may well apply to some folk... (e.g. Cancer, Taurus, Libra people...) "

Scorpios should be added in this too. I have noticed this sign esp in venus likes people to give them full focus and smothering. Libra`s likes to hang out with people and might be clingy themselves but we aren't really into clinginess and being smothered. The behaviour you described of aries people i have mostly seen from aries venus and sometimes moons. A friend of mine is dating an aries venus guy and its been a few times he has thrown her out of his apartment bc he got other plans.

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posted February 27, 2016 05:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
LOL hypatia!!!

athenaia - Yes Sagittarius...

Hmmm...

That is indeed an interesting question... and one that I've deeply pondered.

WHY is it that Sagittarius is not more space-loving... like Aries? I would also love to have an answer to that.

I would love for God.. or the Universe.. or an astrologer... or a psychic.. or *anyone* [b]out there... to tell me WHY.

I've been asking myself WHY for three months now.. and STILL don't have a real answer [/B]



I'm a Sag and I have 5 plants in Sag... not true to what you said. It's never that simple... maybe the Sags you have encountered have a good dose of Libra/Cancer...etc, too. B/c when I'm in a relationship I'm fine only seeing them 2-4 times a month.

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posted February 27, 2016 05:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dreaminess:
Scorpios should be added in this too. I have noticed this sign esp in venus likes people to give them full focus.

Yes.

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posted February 27, 2016 06:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a Sag and I just love Aries-energy, and one (among others) reason is that they allow me to breathe on my own.

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posted February 27, 2016 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sikanda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's funny because as a Virgo I have 'clingy' planets (Libra Moon and Venus, Pluto Scorpio in Desc, Taurus asc..). And I consider myself rather aloof, a loner in fact, but when I'm in a relationship I tend to have Scorpio/Libra characteristics, that is, I can 'adapt' if the person I'm with is not too happy about my intensity but if I am ALLOWED to have it my way and my SO doesn't regret me developing my intense feelings then it is AWESOME (7th house in Scorpio, maybe that is partly the reason). I guess some men like being needed like that. That's why I've fallen for men with earth and water in them. However they must also have some fire about them, I often feel there is something about fire signs that makes them easygoing and easy to deal with.

But onto the question lol Well I live with three Aries in my family and they are great fun, however they are different in their behaviour. For example, my mum is an Aries and one would say she was a Taurus. But they don't usually meddle much in my life so they are easy to live with. They don't smother or cling onto people. But they still make you feel loved.

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posted February 27, 2016 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can be clingy, occasionally - if I feel needy, that means my insecurities are playing up. I'm also even lonelier since my last little dog died.

I need my space, and prefer to do some things alone, but I love to go out with others. Mum and I (she's a sadge) can get into really heated debates over politics, and I will be the one to say we need a break (although the last time, when I really blew up over something, she suggested it, LOL). But we can also be really silly, as someone already mentioned. I love that.

I can't imagine being in someone's pockets twenty-four hours a day. My sister and her husband are like that, even though she spent a lot of time by herself when she was home. They're a Taurus and Capricorn mix, and I find it kind of insulting that she didn't want to spend that much time with us, but she's almost never away from him.

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posted February 27, 2016 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep.. I totally thought this was precisely because I'm a Sag, but I guess it's the Aries moon.

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posted February 27, 2016 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dreaminess:
"While this myth may well apply to some folk... (e.g. Cancer, Taurus, Libra people...) "

Scorpios should be added in this too. I have noticed this sign esp in venus likes people to give them full focus and smothering. Libra`s likes to hang out with people and might be clingy themselves but we aren't really into clinginess and being smothered. The behaviour you described of aries people i have mostly seen from aries venus and sometimes moons. A friend of mine is dating an aries venus guy and its been a few times he has thrown her out of his apartment bc he got other plans.


Scorpios need alone time and are not clingy IME. Even Venus in Scorpio or Venus conjunct pluto need alone time. Perhaps they need to recharge from feeling intensely similar to moon in pisces and neptune conjunct AC who need a lot of alone time to recharge.

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posted February 27, 2016 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaminess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Scorpios need alone time and are not clingy IME. Even Venus in Scorpio or Venus conjunct pluto need alone time. Perhaps they need to recharge from feeling intensely similar to moon in pisces and neptune conjunct AC who need a lot of alone time to recharge.

I have a friend with scorpio asc conj pluto and a scorpio venus and she`s only like this with friends sometimes but with lovers she is very clingy and can be a little smothering and she also likes them to be like that to her. My brother is a scorpio sun and venus and he loves clingy behavior from women. I have also noticed with scorpio influenced types even if they are a bit sick of the clinginess they would still prefer that than anything else and very rarely tell the person to give them space unless they don't care so much for that person anymore. Heavy scorpio and cancer influence and esp having venus in one of these signs are the top two in my experience that loves and prefer clingy behavior and can be pretty clingy themselves.

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posted February 27, 2016 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have a friend with scorpio asc conj pluto and a scorpio venus and she`s only like this with friends sometimes but with lovers she is very clingy and can be a little smothering and she also likes them to be like that to her. My brother is a scorpio sun and venus and he loves clingy behavior from women. I have also noticed with scorpio influenced types even if they are a bit sick of the clinginess they would still prefer that than anything else and very rarely tell the person to give them space unless they don't care so much for that person anymore. Heavy scorpio and cancer influence and esp having venus in one of these signs are the top two in my experience that loves and prefer clingy behavior and can be pretty clingy themselves.

Yep. My Scorp stellium ex was with me nearly all day, everday.

But yes, they do sometimes need their periodic retreats (although that happened only once during the time we were together).

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posted February 27, 2016 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dreaminess:
I have a friend with scorpio asc conj pluto and a scorpio venus and she`s only like this with friends sometimes but with lovers she is very clingy and can be a little smothering and she also likes them to be like that to her. My brother is a scorpio sun and venus and he loves clingy behavior from women. I have also noticed with scorpio influenced types even if they are a bit sick of the clinginess they would still prefer that than anything else and very rarely tell the person to give them space unless they don't care so much for that person anymore. Heavy scorpio and cancer influence and esp having venus in one of these signs are the top two in my experience that loves and prefer clingy behavior and can be pretty clingy themselves.

Interesting, thanks for elaborating. The "clingyness" makes them feel safe and in control.

I do feel scorpios need their alone time though even though they like clingy behavior and would put up with it if it gets out of control bc it makes them feel safe, in control and feeds their ego but still they will make sure they get their alone time although their need for alone time will be a lot less than perhaps a moon conjunct mars in aries.

My husband and I spent all our free time together but when we are together a good portion of the time I am alone doing my own thing and so is he. I need a lot of alone time at home to recharge, dedicate to my hobbies and for self reflection perhaps my moon in pisces ruling the 8th conjunct IC with sag rising and jupiter-uranus in the 12th is why. Yesterday he was complaining a little about this actually, he wanted me to give him attention and talk about his interests. You can be next to someone a lot and not be spending time with them fully. He is independent but has a clingy side perhaps I do too but he is more clingy; he has libra sun, moon in cancer, leo venus and mars in scorpio. I have virgo sun, moon in pisces, venus and mars in Leo.

If I was single and seeing someone I would ideally want to hang out like about 4 times a week. Does that mean I am clingy? perhaps but I don't think so, I think that is a good balanced number IMO that makes my Leo placements feel I am a priority to you and adored.

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posted February 27, 2016 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
So you're into him?

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Yes

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