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12muddy
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posted March 10, 2016 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
StubbornVirgo: yeah it's pretty crp. I didn't like the way a lot of nurses treat the newer ones badly as soon as they were not "new blood" anymore. It was like damn have you forgotten how you were treated? Why perpetuate this kind of vicious behavior?

About what I did. I never really intended to stay in the industry, so the plan of getting out started to roll before I even stepped foot into it. Nursing paid well where I lived, so I picked up a lot of work (full time + extra shifts, 12th hour + night shifts, 7 days a week, and home assistance - this paid especially well, although the trade off was that I didn't have much protection compared to working in a clinical environment). I cut down expenses. I used a bike. It wasn't too bad because there wasn't snow where I lived. Ate basic food.etc... I shared a place with some people who were pretty much in similar situations, so we looked out for each other. The main goal was to save money and pool in with some of my friends to invest. I got into the stock market as well. Then I invested in property/land back in my home country. We were lucky because after we started, there was a period of time when prices were shooting skywards. Then we moved onto leasing, it was more stable and less risky.

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posted March 10, 2016 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
WOW SV

That is the reason. You will learn the lessons inherent in dejanira.

The goal of this difficult life theme would be to help others who are dealing with the same thing.

I would say that this is part of your life purpose!


Ami Anne, you're actually right on the money with this one. I currently work in healthcare as a nurse but my goal is to eventually find myself working in some sort of advocacy work - I'm interested in social services, women's health issues, women's rights, disability studies - basically breaking down the barriers that prevent people (specifically women) from living their life fully and getting the help that they need to do that. I'm not sure yet if I'll find myself teaching, or working as a social worker or therapist, or writing about it. Or maybe all of the above! But definitely working in that area.

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posted March 10, 2016 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@12muddy

I have heard of other RNs doing similar things, especially in my area. It's good to know that it is totally possible to do so early in the game and not have to spend 10 or 20 years building up a retirement and/or savings account first.

Thank you for taking the time to answer my question.

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posted March 11, 2016 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
Scorpio is in my 12th house cusp. I have my mars in there.

Bingo!

Scorpio on the 12th house cusp- dangerous, hidden enemies that are prone to extreme actions of retribution.

Mars in 12th further anchors this by creating a situation of being suspicious and paranoid. Even defensive.

Other people may see you as touchy/irritable or defensive. But that is likely because you feel your ego(1st house cusp) secretly attacked(Mars n 12th arching to the 1st house).

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posted March 11, 2016 01:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Southern Sun:
Saturn sits among an outer planet 1st house stellium.

I have been bullied all the way up to university. It just seemed like people perceive me as an easy target even if I do absolutely nothing to them or around them. Like I'm an emotional abuse magnet....

I am just very glad that suicide never crossed my mind during those tough times. Instead, I had a pretty healthy sense of self, I e. I knew where I was going to end up would be 10x better where they were going to end up. I actually met a middle school bully in high school, after 5 years of radical personality changes.... She was very worse off than me indeed....


Good for you! Stick it to the haters!

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posted March 11, 2016 02:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Bingo!

Scorpio on the 12th house cusp- dangerous, hidden enemies that are prone to extreme actions of retribution.

Mars in 12th further anchors this by creating a situation of being suspicious and paranoid. Even defensive.

Other people may see you as touchy/irritable or defensive. But that is likely because you feel your ego(1st house cusp) secretly attacked(Mars n 12th arching to the 1st house).


Yeah, I always had it in the past and now. Hidden enemies who are actually my friends or people who I tell them honest information and it turns out an attack behind my back. It really really makes me sad knowing that I can not trust other people anymore but my family and it's such a lonely world.

They say I need to open my self to outer world but I often got a betrayal, so I close the door again.

People often have misconception about me especially in the environment where people are very competitive about position/power/authority. I climb fast but also an easy target to be bullied.

The 12th house mars is not an easy placement for me who has moon in fire. When I get angry, I can not express it properly although there's big urge to communicate hurt feelings. I either in silent or burst out like a chaos colors which I regret quickly and apologize.

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posted March 11, 2016 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SV

You will be in a position to really understand what it is like to be taken advantage of due to that Deja/NN.

When you help others, they will know that you understand.

This can make your struggles into a kind of blessing.

I have that with what I went through with my mother.

I never wanted it but because of it, I am able to give to others in a way I never could without it.

When you get down, try to serve others and it will lift you up.

Also, there is a wonderful law or sowing and reaping that when you need it, others will be there to lift you up.

This happens to me all the time. In fact, it never fails lol


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posted March 11, 2016 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roseelima16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Saturn in the 1H and I didn't experience bullying at school really. Only that Saturn placement doesn't create that. Did you check if the planet of its dispositor are aspected by Mars and Pluto? I had problems in a few personal relationships in the past but my chart was very aspected by the Pluto/Mars from the other people.

What I think that Saturn placement brought to my life was a very strong sense of maturity since a very early age (I assumed certain responsibilities way before I should have). Another thing is that I attract old people a lot. Everywhere I lived, worked or even in places I go, elderly people come to me and ask me for favors all the time. Maybe because Saturn rules my 7H (other people).

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posted March 11, 2016 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemilla     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Hemilla

Stick your chart up with it, so we can see a visual.


here it is,i hope you see it before it expieres
http://www.astro.com/tmpd/cwgofile1C8Gjl-u1412079835/astro_2gw_29_mimoso_s.63725.18535.gif

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posted March 11, 2016 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's see what I can see, H.

You have a Yod, which is the Finer of God, a very fated kind of purpose for the life of the person and I find, through my research, that people don't see to be happy until they fufill the Yod. It kind of calls you until you do.

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posted March 11, 2016 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Each Yod takes me an hour or more, but very simply, you may be called to really shine in groups and/or doing some kind of charity work and you may use your amazing intelligence. (We have Sun conj Sun, by the way lol) Your verbal skills, wit and smarts will be used here.

You are gifted in being creative and you will prolly use this as well as a drive to serve others, although it may be hard for you to find the specific way you will serve.

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posted March 11, 2016 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are very sweet and gracious in how you express yourself( venus conj merc)

Your pain may be from some struggle with communication, though, or it could be siblings but it is usually the former( Chiron in the 3rd)

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posted March 11, 2016 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemilla     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you very much dear

maybe my problem is my sibling,i have an older brother with whom both me and my sister were allways in war (and still often are) . He is a good person but also jellous of us,he is only 1 year older than us so i guess he felt we stole mum from him,or something like that when we were born.
He was favorite child to most people in family,me and my sister were pushed in second plan because they didnt want him to feel like he is behind us (their logic was and still is very weird) he would get what ever he wanted no matter how expensive it is,while sister and i would not get anything even close to its quality or amount - yet he is jellous one xD

I dont know about my mission in life,i feel like i am stangating with it,and what nakes me mad is fact that i like it like that xD i am lazy

ps. Nice to meet you Gemini sister ;D

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posted March 11, 2016 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are most welcome, H! Yes, that Chiron in the 3rd sounds like your brother. You are very rare in having a Yod, so feel special!!!

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posted March 12, 2016 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hemilla     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd love to figure out what my mission is

We shall see

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posted March 12, 2016 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are most welcome. You are a lovely new addition to LL. Our newbies are our most important people!

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posted March 12, 2016 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for XzaultaX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For some reason people were too scared to bully me maybe because I have...
Scorpio Ascendant
Sun in 1st house and Scorpio
Pluto in 1st house

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posted March 12, 2016 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by XzaultaX:
For some reason people were too scared to bully me maybe because I have...
Scorpio Ascendant
Sun in 1st house and Scorpio
Pluto in 1st house

YES, certain aspects repel bullies. One is Pluto conjunct dejanira, which I have, thankfully. I have seen this be someone who stands up/repels bullies and, also, may help other people who are bullied. I can't stand to see people bullied. It is so freaking cowardly lol

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posted March 13, 2016 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgoPILL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry if this question is a bit off topic but 1st H saturn made me think and might explain something which is bothering me

if saturn is transiting my 1st house/ASC and there are people with their own saturn in my 1st house is it possible their bullying tendencies would intensify toward me?

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posted March 13, 2016 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Southern Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Find out what your Dejanira does.


It's at 23 Scorpio, in 11h

Major aspects are NN square Dejanira, Venus sextile Dejanira, and Sun square Dejanira.

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posted March 13, 2016 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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SV

You will be in a position to really understand what it is like to be taken advantage of due to that Deja/NN.

When you help others, they will know that you understand.

This can make your struggles into a kind of blessing.

I have that with what I went through with my mother.

I never wanted it but because of it, I am able to give to others in a way I never could without it.

When you get down, try to serve others and it will lift you up.

Also, there is a wonderful law or sowing and reaping that when you need it, others will be there to lift you up.

This happens to me all the time. In fact, it never fails lol



Thanks, Ami Anne. I will keep this in mind.

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posted March 13, 2016 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are very welcome, SV. You should take my asteroid list and see what you have as exact conjunctions to 2 degree orbs because these will be life Themes and they will really help to understand.

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