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Topic: God, sometimes I hate being a male Libra rising.
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Geminiyoungster
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posted May 09, 2016 12:54 PM
  
It's so stupid how people think you are a pushover or think they can push you over to get where they want to be..I'm sick of always being the nice guy. Now I'm just quiet when I meet ppl. I'm nice, but I used to be so accommadating towards ppl, but now I just take the back burner..IP: Logged |
Electro DGX
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posted May 09, 2016 12:56 PM
I can totally agree. I'm not a Libra riser though. Where is your Mars placed? Perhaps this can help determine why you feel this way because Mars HATES being pushed around. ------------------
Aquarius Sun, Merc, Venus, Uranus, Neptune
Scorpio Mars conj. Asc in First
8th House Moon opposite Pluto, Trine Uranus
Have you caught onto the predicament I'm in yet? IP: Logged |
Pisces Plutonian
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posted May 09, 2016 01:11 PM
I feel the exact same way, but I'm not a Libra rising. I'm Virgo rising.
I believe most people that don't have a fire Ascendant or have any Saturn a harsh Pluto aspect to the Ascendant feel the same way we do.IP: Logged |
Geminiyoungster
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posted May 09, 2016 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
I can totally agree. I'm not a Libra riser though. Where is your Mars placed? Perhaps this can help determine why you feel this way because Mars HATES being pushed around.
Its aries in the 7th house? I have a venus square neptune and uranus! I have moon in leo and mars in leo/counjunct. But damn, im sick of it...
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Electro DGX
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posted May 09, 2016 02:08 PM
Perhaps it is your Mars, sorry I accidentally read your post incorrectly. I thought you said Aries Mars lolAnyways, Leo Mars can get angry with people pushing them around because it is an ego-driven Mars. It's like people are daring to step on the great Leo Mars and that is simply unacceptable. Try expressing your Mars a bit more and see how things work. Not reacting at all will make you come off as more passive and can also possibly frustrate you  IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted May 09, 2016 02:23 PM
Don't worry, I'm a female and have the same problem, even though my ASC is in Gemini.I have a Libra Venus and I'm definitely the "nice gal" that is borderline incapable of asserting herself. (My Mars is conjunct my DSC to boot - it's projected and not owned).
The other day, a colleague of mine said, "Do you ever say 'no'?" and I internally laughed as I thought about my Libra/Gemini influence (and other stuff such as my debilitated Mars and overload of Mutable energy). IP: Logged |
charlie
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posted May 09, 2016 02:52 PM
My pAsc just entered Libra sadly, it did so along with Pluto and Mars...
I can lend you some aggression if you like?? LOLIP: Logged |
missblyss
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posted May 09, 2016 03:36 PM
If you're sick of it, then change. It might be hard and feel uncomfortable but ultimately you are in control of how you act. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted May 09, 2016 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by charlie:
I can lend you some aggression if you like?? LOL
Lol yes please!
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diamondbaby
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posted May 09, 2016 06:18 PM
I never found Libra Risings to be a pushover. I think being a pushover is more like a Pisces Rising thing. Libra Rising is a cool placement IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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Registered: Oct 2010
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posted May 09, 2016 07:21 PM
Don't be nice then.Just to be clear, it's not an all or nothing thing, where you're either an overbearing jerk or stuttering wallflower at all times. As a little girl I was pretty much forced to play with the boys who sometimes got into fights with each other. I imitated the behavior, but parents who caught them hitting a girl got into trouble fast. Even at that age my Libra sun and stellium kicked in and I resisted any such impulses as it wasn't fair to them. OTOH, should any boy still hit me first then I tore into him, as that wasn't fair on HIS part (to take advantage of my trying to be fair to him) which just made me all the angrier. That is, I was nice (NOT a pushover) until someone took advantage of that and then I showed them Libra's iron fist in the velvet glove. Granted, I have a Leo ASC and Sag stellium (that includes Mars-Uranus), but Libra is a cardinal sign, which means it's not its nature to be a pushover. Libra tries to be a nice diplomat, but they can wield the stick (or the gavel of the judge) quite ruthlessly. If some people are so crass as to mistake the respectful approach as weakness, then they DESERVE to be whacked the iron fist inside of Libra's silk glove. If they don't respect those who are respectful to them, then stop being respectful to them! (However, continue to be respectful to everyone else.) I also know a girl with Virgo ASC, Cancer sun, Libra moon and Mars (she does have a Leo merc, but it's also 12H), so she should be inclined to be a pushover...though Cancer is also cardinal. In her case she found her voice and her strength in standing up for her family (though she could be critical of them as well, but that was HER right, not anyone else's  ) and developed the cardinal aspects of her Cancer and Libra placements that led her to be an understated but powerful person (that is she spoke quietly, but people listened when she did). That is, she was able to tap into and develop those strengths rather than just surrendering to it. IP: Logged |
DopGang
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posted May 09, 2016 07:28 PM
I don't see myself as a pushover. I don't think others do either. I'll definitely stand my ground and speak up. It's just that I'm very careful (normally) about picking my battles. It also depends if I need to be around the person or if they will be gone and I can not care less what memory of me they carry with them. IP: Logged |
Seimei
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Registered: Apr 2015
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posted May 09, 2016 07:34 PM
I am a male with Libra rising, never had that
problem.
You could become interested in Heliocentric astrology where no houses are used and you are suddenly your earth sign and not your sun sign,
you could have a sex change,
or you could just tell those people to phuqofff,
or take up acting and pretend you have Scorpio or Capricorn rising. no charge ------------------
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Gemini30
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posted May 09, 2016 10:14 PM
I have this ASC as well and i hate it. After a while of playing the "nice guy" you eventually get tired of it and either become mean or just super quiet. You want to see the best in everyone but it's never like that, so you end up...comfortably Numb. IP: Logged |
Electro DGX
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posted May 09, 2016 10:38 PM
This most definitely sounds like a problem dealing with the shadow side of the Libra ASC (Aries DSC). I think it would be best if you tapped into that shadow side of yours a bit and got confrontational when need be. You'll find that things will be so much more stress-free and you'll feel fine ------------------
Aquarius Sun, Merc, Venus, Uranus, Neptune
Scorpio Mars conj. Asc in First
8th House Moon opposite Pluto, Trine Uranus
Have you caught onto the predicament I'm in yet? IP: Logged |
Geminiyoungster
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posted May 10, 2016 01:46 PM
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Originally posted by Gemini30:
I have this ASC as well and i hate it. After a while of playing the "nice guy" you eventually get tired of it and either become mean or just super quiet. You want to see the best in everyone but it's never like that, so you end up...comfortably Numb.
Omg, this was spot on out of everybody here. Love it
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Doux Rêve
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posted May 10, 2016 03:02 PM
I don't think you can just "change" like that. It's not about choosing, it's about how one naturally acts, and what feels comfortable. So saying things like, "just stand up for yourself/assert yourself" is really no help. I mean, surely we would have done that already if it were so simple, lol.In my view, that stuff goes way deeper than a mere people-pleasing syndrome. It's a defense mechanism that one picks up in childhood to deal with situations, either for self-protection or because that's what the family "expected" (or what one perceives that their family expected). It's the shield one uses to deal with the world; and it cannot be changed by force... At least I don't think so. You have to really work on the reasons you are this way, what you're trying to avoid, what makes you afraid, and so on. This stuff needs coaching... Or some really intense willpower (which tends to be lacking in such personalities in the first place).
Ps. OP, do you have Mars in the 7H? Because that's even "worse" than having a Libra Asc. It's the double dose. It's funny how Mars in the 7H can be either super aggressive or super unassertive. IP: Logged |
Mergoatsun
Knowflake Posts: 570
From: Michigan, USA
Registered: Aug 2015
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posted May 10, 2016 03:32 PM
I hate being a Libra rising as a female! I get unwanted compliments or gestures and people don't take me seriously in my field because I don't speak up.------------------
"Do not let the behavior of others destroy your inner peace."
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Geminiyoungster
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posted May 10, 2016 03:42 PM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
I don't think you can just "change" like that. It's not about choosing, it's about how one naturally acts, and what feels comfortable. So saying things like, "just stand up for yourself/assert yourself" is really no help. I mean, surely we would have done that already if it were so simple, lol.In my view, that stuff goes way deeper than a mere people-pleasing syndrome. It's a defense mechanism that one picks up in childhood to deal with situations, either for self-protection or because that's what the family "expected" (or what one perceives that their family expected). It's the shield one uses to deal with the world; and it cannot be changed by force... At least I don't think so. You have to really work on the reasons you are this way, what you're trying to avoid, what makes you afraid, and so on. This stuff needs coaching... Or some really intense willpower (which tends to be lacking in such personalities in the first place).
Ps. OP, do you have Mars in the 7H? Because that's even "worse" than having a Libra Asc. It's the double dose. It's funny how Mars in the 7H can be either super aggressive or super unassertive.
And thank you!!!!!!!!!!!! This was what I was going to say but did not feel like explaining it in depth... I think its my moon square pluto at a really tight orb that puts me in intense situations! Or maybe i'm intense and dont even know it! No, my mars is actually in the 11th house! IP: Logged |
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