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Aries Eagle
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posted July 15, 2016 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DEUS VULT

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soren
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posted July 15, 2016 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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soren
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posted July 15, 2016 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry misjudged your response. It was a battle cry of the french christians

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posted July 15, 2016 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/15/hero-motorcyclist-attempted-to- stop-nice-terror-attacker/


No greater love hath any man than this...

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soren
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posted July 15, 2016 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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pire
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posted July 15, 2016 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
DEUS VULT

This is way of topic to me, it seems to be about agroup that promote POLITICAL FIGHTERS / ARDENT CATOLIC FAITH / EUROPEAN RACE

sorry but this outdated vision of europe is not something I want to represent France. (Although i am a white french young man, baptised catolic myself)

This deus vult thing seems a very racist group, it has nothing to do in a thread giving respect to France or to victims from all around the world yesterday in Nice

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pire
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posted July 15, 2016 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by soren:
Sorry misjudged your response. It was a battle cry of the french christians

No you read right the first time,

This is a racist sentence used to mobilise catholics warriors against muslims, 900 years ago

This is way out of place nowadays, we are not in year 1095, middle age, france, come on !!!

We have grown up as a nation, as a civilisation. Haven't we ???

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pire
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posted July 15, 2016 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's scary how people can go either way too far on each end of the spectrum, either relativising to much pretending that it is nothing "special" or getting all up and ready to fight for WHITE CHRISTIANS RACE in the name of a "population" that didn't ask any of that to be done in its name. Weird...

Pot should be legalised me think ❤️

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pire
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posted July 15, 2016 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't yet completly understood the vertex but in the chart of Nice's attack, neptune is conjunct exactly the anti vertex, and there is this issue wether or not the man acted on behalf of isis. Its act hasn't been yet revendicated

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posted July 15, 2016 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Love and blessings go out to all in France....

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posted July 15, 2016 07:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ilunatique:
More people die everyday in other parts of The world because of violence and no one cries about it


minus the smile.

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pire
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posted July 15, 2016 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LittleBlackCat:

minus the smile.

If you are from the US you may be interested to know about sean and brodie copeland, 51 and 11, father and son from austin, texas, who were run over by the truck, both dead

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pire
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posted July 15, 2016 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Next time such a tragedy happens anywhere else please open a thread so we can ALL show our tributes/compassion/empathy with the victims, and you can do here too btw

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Faith
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posted July 15, 2016 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe we should just have an ongoing crisis thread?

Military coup in Turkey... http://www.people.com/article/turkey-coup-military-attempted-seizes-power-reports

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posted July 15, 2016 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ilunatique:
More people die everyday in other parts of The world because of violence and no one cries about it


Adding your didn't make your comment any less insensitive.

This is an international site, we have posters from France who participate here too.

If you are so concerned about other parts of the world where people are dying everyday and equal opportunity grief, why haven't you ever started threads highlighting those little known tragedies?

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posted July 15, 2016 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Edit - Just not sure how to express.

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posted July 16, 2016 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some insensitive comments here in this thread.

Do you go to a wake or funeral, telling people why are they mourning, because people in another town also die every day?

The current collective psyche is broken in a way I have not seen in decades. I am going to blame it on Saturn square Jupiter and Neptune.

Eventually it will be nice when LL will have a feature that allows us to block certain posters so one does not have to read their drivel.

I think the latest tragedy in France is symbolized by transit Uranus in Aries square its sun in Cancer. Those events have the unpredictability of Uranus and the deadliness of Mars ruler of Aries. Because Uranus is a slow moving planets, i suspect more of this will continue to happen until Uranus moves out of aspect for good.

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posted July 16, 2016 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ilunatique:
[b]More people die everyday in other parts of The world because of violence and no one cries about it


Adding your didn't make your comment any less insensitive.

This is an international site, we have posters from France who participate here too.

If you are so concerned about other parts of the world where people are dying everyday and equal opportunity grief, why haven't you ever started threads highlighting those little known tragedies?

[/B][/QUOTE]

Once again and for the last time (since my opinion isn't 100% for certain) I got out of it that the smiley face meant she was being positive and she was just showing that those people matter too. She just didnt want to ignore them! She isn't saying this case doesnt matter, or she was saying those other cases matter too. I think she feels for the death of those people (all over) and it kind of saddens her that it happens and she is just bringing a little love their way

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posted July 16, 2016 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The tragedy is what it is.

I might not feel bad about it. I've been feeling bad about lots of things such as my negativie disposition onto this reality. For once I can feel like I might not be doing terrible things.

If you really want to know what matters most, is that each individual person feels the best that they can. Each individual person is different. But for me- I don't care about empathy in the slightest bit.

I care about other people feeling better. I don't recieve love from people by them being "empathetic" to me. I give love to people when I see them loving themselves and it makes me feel better about myself. They offer things to me- artistically- their way of life. What they do, and how they help themselves individually- makes me feel better when they do because they offer a way of being that I can learn from.

ETA: And it makes me happy to see them happy. If anyone thinks we are supposed to make ourselves sad and feel bad ourselves for the bad things that happen; then you don't want whats best for that person. You should want us to be happy.

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Kannon McAfee
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posted July 16, 2016 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bluestskies88,

A great portion of the world is at least subconsciously sensing a fundamental change in life on Earth in our lifetime, and it is stressful in a way that is hard to address, because humans don't really have a frame of reference for such broad, deep changes.

These changes are at a primary level of energy. They are a shift of the ages (astrological, Aquarius) They are social. There has been increasing awareness of huge disparities in how different people are treated, in distributions of wealth and opportunity. There is an increasing discontent with tyrannical governments, suspicion towards looming technocracies, and shadowy science making its way into our medicine and food supplies.

Its a lot to see and we have to develop a different functional balance to be able to solve these problems.

That is a general answer to what's going on the in the world -- a lot of these things are being brought to a head.

Terrorist attacks show the hate and violence we still have to overcome. We have to grow past the hate and division by choosing peace on a personal level and by refusing to be drawn into someone else's conflicts and hate.

Notice I said 'we' not 'us' and 'them.'

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posted July 16, 2016 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koniucha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

on an astrological note Atropos is starting to freak me out.


Why?

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soren
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posted July 16, 2016 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Exactly what I was saying Kannon; in the old Pisces age it was completely natural to cry about bad things and come together with family and love/be empathetic. The difference between a water sign and an air sign is HUGE! Water signs can't help but be incredibly empathetic- I know. I can tell.

I can sometimes tune into my earlier brain electronic lock-ins of the Piscean era. We've been shifting to Aquarius(leo as well) axis in the last seven years.

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posted July 16, 2016 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by soren:
The tragedy is what it is.

I might not feel bad about it. I've been feeling bad about lots of things such as my negativie disposition onto this reality. For once I can feel like I might not be doing terrible things.

If you really want to know what matters most, is that each individual person feels the best that they can. Each individual person is different. But for me- I don't care about empathy in the slightest bit.

I care about other people feeling better. I don't recieve love from people by them being "empathetic" to me. I give love to people when I see them loving themselves and it makes me feel better about myself. They offer things to me- artistically- their way of life. What they do, and how they help themselves individually- makes me feel better when they do because they offer a way of being that I can learn from.

ETA: And it makes me happy to see them happy. If anyone thinks we are supposed to make ourselves sad and feel bad ourselves for the bad things that happen; then you don't want whats best for that person. You should want us to be happy.


Nobosy is asking you to feel guilty, we just want to be allowed to mourn if we want to. And if some do not feel the same it is all good as long as they don't come to shove it don the throat of those mourning.

Respect

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soren
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posted July 16, 2016 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pire:
Nobosy is asking you to feel guilty, we just want to be allowed to mourn if we want to. And if some do not feel the same it is all good as long as they don't come to shove it don the throat of those mourning.

Respect


I have absolutely no problem with the wants and desires of others in fact i support your want because it makes you feel better and everyone should always strive to feel the best they can and be the most love which makes them feel best!

Was Ilunatique doing what you described? I didn't think so. You can only jump to assumptions when reading tone of voice online

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posted July 16, 2016 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well said Kannon. I agree.

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