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Topic: Nice France... what the heck is going on with our world and it's people??
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soren Knowflake Posts: 1027 From: not here Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 16, 2016 01:02 AM
Because it would be very mean to, especially this context, tell someone they shouldn't be caring about death. Anyone can choose to care about what they want, this should be known for all "self loving" pedestriansIt would be mean to try to control anyone in the slightest since we are all self aware, self-actualizing individuals of a high frequency of care and understanding what we want Which is why I don't think she was being controlling, I felt that she just felt saddened about other parts of reality and wanted to share, spread light to them At least to note that they- the starving and dying- exist IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 1027 From: not here Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 16, 2016 01:22 AM
I'm sure the phenomena that's occuring between mixed perspectives of Ilanutique's sentence is just like the "black lives matter" movement, which white people feel targeted as if they don't matter, so their own personal intention when they say "All lives matter" wasn't to put the "Black lives matter" group down- they were just stating their own defenses that all of a sudden they feel like black lives are more cautious-needing then their own, so from their own personal heeding of this message, do they be less cautious? Of course not.The sentence objectively seems fine. But as a being of love, when you repeat it to yourself, it seems to throw your own self protection thought-balance out the window as if you don't need care for yourself. This is how it feels subjectively. Because you are a being of love and for your own personal self no ones need is greater than your own. But if what I say makes black people feel less secure, then this is why I want them to tell us how they feel and fight for what they need- don't hide or be shy about your thoughts! Maybe after I say all lives matter, it crushes your whole motive, but white and other race people say all lives matter because they are fighting for their own love. It's not more selfish or anything IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 2402 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 16, 2016 01:31 AM
quote: Originally posted by soren: Once again and for the last time (since my opinion isn't 100% for certain) I got out of it that the smiley face meant she was being positive and she was just showing that those people matter too. She just didnt want to ignore them! She isn't saying this case doesnt matter, or she was saying those other cases matter too. I think she feels for the death of those people (all over) and it kind of saddens her that it happens and she is just bringing a little love their way
That is still insensitive! Again, does anyone goes to a funeral/wake, and says um, there are people dying over at some other place everyday, and no one seems to care?!? There is a time and place for everything. Bad enough we are spending time analyzing astrological configurations so soon after a tragedy, but this being an astrological site, we have an excuse, it takes an incredible amount of indecency to come in and attempt to guilt trip people out of having care and concerned for those affected by the tragedy on the pretense that tragedies occur everywhere everyday. I think you are giving this poster too much credit. I see a lot of that passive aggressive drivel on social media. IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 1027 From: not here Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 16, 2016 01:42 AM
I'm tired of explaining, she didn't intend to IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 8746 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 16, 2016 01:43 AM
Maybe they brought it up in this forum, because it's one of the few busy ones. Hardly anyone visits LLC, anymore. I have a friend who works as a member of government in her small town. She decided to leave the flag at half-mast, because so many things were happening. She thinks there's no point in raising it again, when there's just going to be another shooting, or bombing, or this time, a huge truck crashing into a crowd. I also wonder if we should just create one thread for everything, since it's just one thing after the other now.
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soren Knowflake Posts: 1027 From: not here Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 16, 2016 01:43 AM
Oh wait, Sorry I just got a PM Ilunatique: No I'm tired of people complaining about the deaths of their loved ones! EVERYONE MATTERS, NOT JUST the people in YOUR life!! So STOP CARING AS MUCH ABOUT IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 1027 From: not here Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 16, 2016 01:56 AM
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 8746 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 16, 2016 01:58 AM
quote: Originally posted by soren: Because it would be very mean to, especially this context, tell someone they shouldn't be caring about death. Anyone can choose to care about what they want, this should be known for all "self loving" pedestriansIt would be mean to try to control anyone in the slightest since we are all self aware, self-actualizing individuals of a high frequency of care and understanding what we want Which is why I don't think she was being controlling, I felt that she just felt saddened about other parts of reality and wanted to share, spread light to them At least to note that they- the starving and dying- exist
Blueskies didn't focus on France in her first post, though: she asked what was going on in OUR WORLD (caps just for emphasis). Everywhere. France was just the latest (and Turkey). IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 19172 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 22, 2016 05:33 PM
Now Munich http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/22/munich-shopping-cent re-evacuated-after-reported-shooting-germany No words IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 2887 From: MBTI - INTJ -- Enneagram - 6w5 Registered: Jun 2015
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posted July 22, 2016 06:58 PM
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 70043 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 22, 2016 07:52 PM
Children were the target. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 70043 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 22, 2016 10:15 PM
"The world has never been less violent..." Obama July 21, 2016IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 70043 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 22, 2016 10:28 PM
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/cnsnewscom-staff/obama-world-has-never-been-less-violent IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 8308 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 22, 2016 10:36 PM
^^I think technically he's correct. He didn't say the world was peaceful, just that it's the closest to peaceful as it ever has been, at least generally speaking, and recent episodes not withstanding. You know what the biggest cause of death was in the 20th century? Government. Not plague or accident or disasters, but the willful violence of governments on their own people and operations of gulags and death camps, and the United States was pretty bad as well in more ways than one, though US schools rarely teach any of that (most government schools gloss over the sins of the nation they're apart of, and overstate the accomplishments, all part of making "good citizens" for their respective nations). It doesn't even count those killed in international wars! Nor does it count the rampant crimes, rebellions, and terrorism (I think the many civil wars of the 20th century were counted, as the victors were brutal to the losers, once they established their own power). Even the US was hit with that many times over in the 20th century. And the 20th century, as deadly and violent as it was, was actually better than the all the recorded centuries before it. Even though death tolls were typically smaller, they were actually of a bigger percentage than in the 20th century. So if Obama wants to try to remind people of what we (not just the US) has gained and accomplished rather than becoming completely demoralized by recent events, then that strikes me as something a POTUS should do. Certainly more than the time he made me cringe about "finding an ass to kick" over the Gulf oil spill because he was being pressured by the media to do so. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 70043 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 22, 2016 11:01 PM
Forgive me if I don't share your optimism. Agree to disagree. The rise of ISIS alone refutes Obama's rhetoric.IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 1027 From: not here Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 22, 2016 11:08 PM
The terror attacks are still a lot for what level of violence we desireIP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 70043 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 22, 2016 11:14 PM
Obama pulled our troops out of Iraq, which gave ISIS their caliphate.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 70043 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 22, 2016 11:22 PM
The truth is that ISIS rose on Obama's watch and at his hands, and he is in a state of denial. He should be honest with the country about the true state of the world, but doing so will only alert us to his epic failures.IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 1027 From: not here Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 22, 2016 11:29 PM
after all the allegations that bush just made them take over iran, for oil, made much of the country agree that we they were mostly hassling them for no good causelike terror weapons, none were ever found, and that was the main reason they went there, or pretended it was the reason pictures of bush shaking hands with sudam maybe he did it for the good of the country. he was trying to think like a terrorist, "ok we need to give a reason to go to iraq to get their oil, we can harvest it and make much more use of it than they ever can, yet international laws say its illegal to just go and take it, we have to have a reason. lets demonstrate an attack and claim its terrorists. we can just bomb a short building. wait, no it wouldnt be scary enough." that's why they destroyed the world trade center IP: Logged |
nordicsoul Knowflake Posts: 1202 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 23, 2016 12:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: We have to grow past the hate and division by choosing peace on a personal level and by refusing to be drawn into someone else's conflicts and hate.Notice I said 'we' not 'us' and 'them.'
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Southern Sun Knowflake Posts: 241 From: USA Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 23, 2016 03:09 PM
I'd like to pop it and propose that this has a lot to do with Neptune in Pisces. Illusions are cast over the public to encourage people to forget or even cover up the underlying, pervasive problems. I'm not surprised that these events are happening at all--they seem from decades-long cultural and religious tensions between east and west, issues that were quietly brushed away from 1st world public conversation This situation is a that it's easy to ignore the problem and keep singing kumbaya, until it's right in your face. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 8308 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 23, 2016 08:11 PM
^^That's normal, not Neptune in Pisces. Even most mass shootings get treated as an aberration when they keep happening over and over again, but after the bullets of such stop flying for a month, hardly anyone remembers and we go back to pretending it only happens once in a blue moon, and pretending to be shocked the next time it happens when in truth the only thing that shocked us is that it took so long for the next hail of bullets (speaking of which, had Obama instead said "time to panic over recent attacks, and I will use every resource to crack down on this" you can be sure people would be crying about either his imperialism or say that he was going to take our guns). And even massacres that are over a hundred men, women, and children that are initially a big deal are all but forgotten in a year (like this ). It's really no surprise, one can't function by focusing on things beyond our control, anymore than worrying about random lightning strikes that could (and do) happen, or deadly earthquakes and tsunamis. Though I did have a fascinating experience that shows another element at work. Long story made short, the news made people forget. This was when the US invaded Iraq. The original reasons were unpopular so the White House kept changing the reason until "liberating the Iraqi people" was popular, and the White House stuck with that reason over and over. TV puts people into a semi-hypnotic state, especially when they're tired from work, drinking and/or popping meds, and the like, so they forgot that which they only heard once or twice while the new spin had the power of a hypnotic suggestion. But as I didn't have a TV at the time, I was unaffected, which is why I remembered (which was an amusingly surreal experience for me, and made me paranoid until I figured it out). Even a librarian didn't remember the original reasons until she helped me find an old TIME (though only a few months old then) that had one of the original reasons, and then she remembered upon seeing the cover. IP: Logged |
TensionEmpire Knowflake Posts: 528 From: Hamburg Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 24, 2016 12:42 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: [QUOTE]Asteroid Atropos 273 is a main belt Asteroid discovered in Vienna on March 8 1888. She is the third dark aspect of the three fates. Atropos is the cutter of the cord of life and her Roman equivalent is Morta, Italian for death. So very final then! According to Demetra George “Her position in the birth chart shows how and where we bring our fate to it’s inevitable conclusion and how we cut the life thread when we experience endings, loss, closure and death.”
http://darkstarastrology.com/asteroid-atropos/ [/QUOTE]When I read this asteroid I new I had it somewhere strong, i checked it and I have it cnj my Mercury and Chiron in the mittle of my 10 house! IP: Logged |
Hemilla Knowflake Posts: 398 From: Winterfell Registered: May 2015
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posted July 24, 2016 10:45 AM
as i said in other thread with similar context - world was, is, and will be sheti place,some people are just now poked out of their safe places because shet is so close to home its now scarry I have to say,yes its scarry,i live in Europe,i live in part of Europe that not that long ago had wars,and it is scarry,wars are scarry and horrible - but i am so annoyed by western peoples apathy in times when they felt no scare,people here dont realize that all this could have been prevented if their respective countries didnt meddle in middle eastern,north african politics! Everyone in west was quick enough to support forcefull move and death of Ghadafi for example - do you remember Arab spring? All happening in Iran and iraq? syria? I am sorry to say this,but it is western politicians fault some of the horror there happened - and people in west couldnt care less at the time,people ate what they were served - they belive in evil Assad,evil Ghadafi ,Evil dictators who plott against their peacefull democratic lands evil Putin,oh how many would support attack on Russia under fictive fear of Russia occupiyng other "democratic" countriws,west tought it is great decision to soroundRussia with army ,usa posting its own soldiers infront of Russian borders,is that normal,and threathen him ,who is provoking war again?- why,because Obama,Clinton,Kerry,Merkel said he wants to nuke the world! who is crazy here? Just 2 years ago Albanians from Serbian land Kosovo (wich was stolen by west) went to Macedonia and started shooting at POLICE - west did not call that "terrorism" and no one in west gave a **** - few days ago two Serbs were attacked while they were cleaning yard of Ortodox monastry,they were shot at,shooters were Albanians ,Serbs down there are under CONSTANT terror attacks,our singer was beaten to blood in Kosovo just because she is Serbian,they ateal our children and sell them as while sex slaves- its not reported or called "terrorism" and no one in west gives a flying damn about their countries politics that cause chaos and death across the world ,no one realizes that CHAOS TRAWELLS FAR AND KNOWS NO BOUNDRIES - everyone who crys now should get up and say "its enough" to its own politicians first,if he dosent he cant expect peace in his own home is all neigor uner fier . All this is happening because European and American bad external politics,this is just reflection. IP: Logged |
TensionEmpire Knowflake Posts: 528 From: Hamburg Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 24, 2016 08:20 PM
of course, Germany says, "yow yaw, we smart, we ethic, we first world, have need, to help porr little poor ppl shooting themselfs with guns, lets use our much money we have, and help with much mony, good mony we make, with machine, machine good make weaponIP: Logged | |