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angel4845
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posted July 16, 2016 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What can this mean? The grand cross is Cardinal. Any ideas or anyone with a grand cross in there own natal?

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posted July 18, 2016 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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Ami Anne
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posted July 18, 2016 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Struggles in blending the houses and planets into an ORGANIC whole of a person, shall we say lol

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posted July 18, 2016 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My son has a grand cross that's mostly on the angles, though it may not satisfy everyone's criteria for orbs.

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Full of contrasts:

* Extremely sensitive (note ASC) and sweet. Creative, funny, unique.
* Also bossy, warrior-like (Cap Pluto!) and unreasonable at times.

In some ways he is just like any other person except certain personality traits are emphasized and more noticeable! I mean he is really sweet. And REALLY cannot wait to begin martial arts to unleash his grand-cross energy on someone or something.

As for me, I have squares all over my chart and can ride his mood swings without much resistance..."Oh he's in a good mood....now he's in a bad mood"....but other people will give him trouble unless he learns to modulate everything and conceal his fur and claws (he's a bit wild!) Good thing he is also super cute.

Please don't quote this post

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posted July 18, 2016 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah I have a mutable grandcross involving my cardinal angles and houses. What can I say??, I have always struggled with mood swings, lots of ups and downs. I have always described my life like a roller coaster and you can say that I am all about the journey and going at my own pace but stick to my goals and sooner and later achieve them.

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posted July 18, 2016 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suppose I should mention my grandcross is a nodal grandcross involving my luminaries and mercury plus my cardinal angles:

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posted July 18, 2016 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Ami, Faith, & Hypatia!! This helped a lot!!

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posted July 18, 2016 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I mean he is really sweet. And REALLY cannot wait to begin martial arts to unleash his grand-cross energy on someone or something."
Hahaha, He sounds awesome!

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posted July 18, 2016 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 18, 2016 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When you're reading a chart, do you read angles as objects in formations like a grand cross or grand trine or T-square (example--would you see the formation Pluto square Mars square AsC square Sun as bringing the same amount of grand cross style energy to the chart as Pluto square Mars square Moon square Sun)?

I have a cardinal Uranus opposite Chiron t-square with Venus in my chart. If I look at Pallas, it turns into a grand cross. I doubt it shapes my core personality as significantly as a cross of all heavy-hitters would (like, Sun-Moon-Pluto-Saturn grand cross, Yeegh)....but I notice I feel it intensely as a problem/issue/set of problems and issues at cross-purposes when it's hit by transits or in synastry, that is, when something major conjuncts one of those points. I imagine that's doubly true for heavy-hitting grand crosses.

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posted July 18, 2016 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
"I mean he is really sweet. And REALLY cannot wait to begin martial arts to unleash his grand-cross energy on someone or something."
Hahaha, He sounds awesome!

Thanks! He is.

Yesterday he asked if he could play chef, so I gave him zucchini slices, a cutting board and knife, and sat right night to him. "Make SURE you don't cut your fingers."

He looked at me seriously and said, "Stop worrying. I'm a highly trained professional."

And got to work.

I love your chart, too! Your Jupiter-Uranus on my 6 Sag Venus. And you seem really easy-going despite all the red lines. I mean, you are HERE, and I assume you are in person.

"I have always struggled with mood swings,"

^^ I wouldn't have guessed.

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posted July 18, 2016 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Lucia

That's what I do, too....I look at it on a case by case basis. I might mention asteroids, depending on who I'm talking to, which asteroids are involved, and how clearly the chart picture seems to match the circumstances.

Pallas is big (literally) and I would count that in a grand cross, if I had it in my chart. Plus, if Pallas shows up in a pattern...that is so perfectly fitting...how could we ignore it?

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posted July 18, 2016 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Thanks! He is.

Yesterday he asked if he could play chef, so I gave him zucchini slices, a cutting board and knife, and sat right night to him. "Make SURE you don't cut your fingers."

He looked at me seriously and said, "Stop worrying. I'm a highly trained professional."

And got to work.

I love your chart, too! Your Jupiter-Uranus on my 6 Sag Venus. And you seem really easy-going despite all the red lines. I mean, you are HERE, and I assume you are in person.

"I have always struggled with mood swings,"

^^ I wouldn't have guessed.


Haha thanks...I am easy going and as for the mood swings I guess my sag rising and MC in Virgo are good at hiding it

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posted July 20, 2016 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good answers.

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