posted February 20, 2017 09:11 AM            

In the last few months I have been researching the effects psychedelic substances have on the human mind and their potential for psychotherapy, self-discovery and personal growth.

After yet another episode of mental anguish between October-December 2016 I think enough is enough. I have decided that I want to stand up to myself and try and resolve at least some of the issues I have lived with forever which seem “invincible” to traditional methods.

I know how important set and setting is for psychedelics. I’m aware that this is a double edged sword that can swing either way depending on my mental state. I have taken all those things into consideration and there is one thing that remains undecided – I haven’t planned when I’m going to do it. I want to put astrology to some good use here.

Can you please tell me what kind of transits would be most beneficial for what I’m going for?
- Self-discovery and clarity
- realizing and purging negative behaviors (psychological)
- healing and inspiration
- having trust and love for life

I would also appreciate it if you tell me which transits to avoid.

I don’t want to be “blinded” and go into something like this recklessly and end up damaging my mind more than healing it. If anyone has had experiences with this sort of thing please share!!

posted February 20, 2017 10:39 AM            

I haven't tried self-therapy using psychedelics yet. My friend who uses them goes through bouts of fear.
Personally I'd recommend self-hypnosis/meditation, they will help you to explore the unconscious which is where the root cause lies.

posted February 20, 2017 01:00 PM            

I completely empathize with people who want to escape, using shortcuts? I had spent a short time period in my life where I used some common substances.

It can give you insights, yes... HOWEVER, it can also make people lazy and become a crutch, like people who use credit cards irresponsibly? There's a time of paybacks. It COSTS you IF you cannot integrate your learning. Use it sporadically. I would even say, if you have a few introductory times, STOP using it.

LEARN how to cope. Learn how to 'feel' your emotions and process your life.

Life can be soooo HARD, soooo UGLY.
The drug temptations make things soooo pretty and so Beautiful.

But it's ILLUSION. And the MORE you DO that?, the MORE enticed you get to continue in it.

MOST PEOPLE do not have the 'discipline'. You MUST develop your OWN 'muscle' spiritually, psychologically.... or life will OVERWHELM you.

There are Addiction-forming type sky formats going on.
There are forces beyond our understanding which want to encourage this kind of hunger.

It's "superficial" learning. It's NOT going to save you.... Gently, you are the one that needs to find an oblique path to FIND what works for you.

AND, while I was experimenting, I FOUND that there is a GLASS-CEILING you reach, and might not be aware of.

I was VERY fortunate that I have a talent and ability inside me that I was able to actually (in my psyche's awareness) PERCEIVE it.

Don't do it. It's like the story of the frog that likes to jump into the kettle, all the while not realizing that the water is going to BOIL.

You 'need' to develop yourself with a system that helps you tap in TO the supernatural metaphysical realms, and to DO that 'without' the chemical assistance.

This-here space-cadet informs you that it IS real, and you CAN do this.

But it's like Saturn. You need disciplined approach, every day. You need to set that INNER self to a higher-ideal you wish to reach (whether enlightenment, psychic-attunement, ~whatever), and you apply yourself TO it.

You will build such a great concrete foundation upon which to build a great life, a great spiritual attunement.

Please.... Take this seriously. Some milder things you would experiment with a bit? Apply the yearning TOWARDS knowing self (as Edgar Cayce used to say).

But I've seen people who wound up spending their lives on the backwards of mental institutions, who had had great promising public careers... and they RUINED it when they KEPT doing more tripping.

AND, you have the chemical residuals of those drugs (held in different internal organs) that 'happen' to get released in MAYBE the most inopportune times!
.. (ref some of Pixie Jane's stories). It's REAL. Be SUPER careful. Don't compromise your Future. {{ }}

I noticed you did this post at 9:11 ....
Take it THAT seriously.

Especially right now with eclipse coming to Pisces, and the building-stellium there, with Chiron. The DRUGS may be potentiated, and EXTRA toxic, when at other times it would not have been that way.

Another analogy would be to some of the TESTING that happens on computer. Once you reveal an answer?, the whole test gets reconfigured, even HARDER to challenge.

posted February 20, 2017 01:27 PM            

In interest to self-discovery and clarity, one of those experiences was the "shrooms" were like a telepathic guide that could gently shift my thoughts. Most notable was after I shook off some initial terror, the utter BEAUTY (beyond the ability of words to do justice to the wonder, awe, and pleasure of the beauty all around me and just being alive and exulting in it) made me think how close I came to not taking the shrooms and then I'd have missed this most intense, wondrous experience. I think that was when the "shrooms" (or possibly my "higher self" it's not like I was given a name, and it kinda reminds me of the "life review" that many report while their body is momentarily dead, but in a more limited way) started to "tell" me (no words, it was just a knowing with my thoughts being coaxed to show me what was meant) that I couldn't, I was too curious, and I loved learning (sharp memories in such clarity came up in which I remembered the joy I felt as I learned something new).

I asked why I hated school then and then the presence or whatever shifted my memories to sitting at a desk and told don't talk, don't think, pay attention to the lessons that were too slow for me. IOW, school was wasting my time when I could be learning so much more if they but turned me loose in a library. As I realized the truth of this I no longer confused schooling with learning, and that made a difference in my life, and I think learning (beyond what the school wanted me to according to the lesson plans) actually became an act of rebellion for me after that.

x

I'm going to stop talking about that specific experience (there was much more) and skip ahead to more than a year later. I was a homeless runaway on the streets, malnourished, deeply stressed (and emotionally traumatized), sleep deprived, when I had a mystical (and I'd say paranormal) experience that changed my life. To talk about this would take too long, but I will say I believe that some of the psilocybin from the shrooms I'd took before was in my body fat that were being released (this does not mean I think it was therefore false, and don't due to other factors I'm not sharing). I'm also not going to describe the experience/vision in detail other than there was constant wordless singing that communicated information (similar to how the "shrooms talked" to me in my head) and that I eventually found myself in a realm that was almost pure music that I realized was manifesting in the mortal world (and that I was also a song manifesting in the world, a song of the goddess Freya). And what happened in the mortal world was also making music in this mystical realm.

Long story short, Freya "told" me in this language of musical notes that I had to grow up and not be like others seeking to be eternal children of their gods or climbing back into the womb that spit them out. I had to be ready to stand with her against the giants of Ragnarok, and all I was going through was tempering me for that. If I broke then let it be by my choice, not because I simply had given up thinking there was no point to it all.

At the time I was absolutely convinced this was a meeting with a goddess, though in retrospect I think she may have been my "idealized self" tapping the collective unconscious described by Jung. As I was a kid on the streets, I could not trust the adults, who would double as giants of the Ragnarok I was experiencing. To trust would be to doom me, and my life experiences shaped me to believe in myself rather than capricious adults, so it makes sense that such would be my vision. In any case, it was the vision I needed.

It changed me, and I went from being a leaf blown by the wind to actively shaping my own destiny. I'd subconsciously accepted the adults controlled my life (however much I might rebel) but at this time I KNEW that I controlled my life, and that changed how I dealt with other kids and with adults. People noticed it, and some respected it, others feared it (there were adults who wanted to break my now revealed spirit, they were the giants of Ragnarok, metaphorically speaking). This set into motion a series of events that over the next few years changed my life for the better that provided me with psychological strength, healing, inspiration, and with all that hope and thus love for life (though I also was prepared for death, but not in a depressed, despairing way).

x

I don't feel like talking about that anymore, so here's a bit of the astrology that may have been involved at the time I did the shrooms (but not the vision over a year later).

Jupiter and Uranus in Aquarius could inspire the trip to make me more individualistic and with an eye to self-improvement. Saturn in Aries would say I could stand on my own feet and make my own choices, and chaff against restrictions imposed upon me. The Cappie Neptune could further shape my experience to become self-motivated to change my own life and improve myself on my own terms (complementing the rest of the placements) while Sag Pluto was all about destroying what I believed and who I was so I could rise from my own ashes like a phoenix (and if I broke, too bad, which is pretty much what Freya "said" at one point), and able to shape my own life rather than be shaped by others who did not have my best interests at heart.

It's also worth nothing that I have a 5H Sag stellium (moon, Mars, Uranus, Neptune, and the Mars-Uranus definitely affected by teen personality, which was being stoked by the transiting Sag Pluto) which is sextile to my Libra sun and stellium (which includes Pluto, so transiting Pluto was sextile to my natal Pluto, and my life was changing so much, more than most kids my age). It's also worth noting that I took the shrooms to experiment, not learn about myself, and one complained when I was obviously gaining mystical insights as he'd tried so many times for that but it never happened for him (maybe because his planets weren't in alignment?).

posted February 20, 2017 03:08 PM            

It's been working as any other food. It's just the only thing that is easy to get, as there is not much other stuff to eat.

I recommend the brown kind because the lighter coloured ones seem to have an odd taste that lingers for 10 seconds.

I found out that sap backwards is PAS and I came to the conclusion that PAS stands for Puss and Sweat, which makes sense since it's coming out of a trees skin.

If you get SAP on your hands.. then it really PAS(s)es the time.. getting it off!!

posted February 20, 2017 03:32 PM            

I’ve thought about doing this many times myself, but because of psychedelic drugs’ standing in society it make the whole ordeal a little tricky. But I’d love to do it for the same purposes as you state.

posted February 20, 2017 04:05 PM            

Neptune I consider an abstract feeling on people puts them into undescribable trances.

Strong venus hits will likely just be a feel good beautiful time.

Mars will be like a drive to succeed. Like goign through a forest and having to outbattle all the demons.

posted February 20, 2017 07:38 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by meyray:
mirage29, thank you for your compassion but I feel like you misunderstood my intentions.

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Thank you for telling me that Meyrey. I appreciate your feedback very much.

PJ, that was powerful. Thankyou.

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I know I've had some trippy moments DURING some eclipses. While I was dreaming, it turned into a LUCID experience for me. (That was late 1980s.) Very powerful.

If you're eclipse sensitive you might want to be more aware of how it aspects your chart?

I know NOW, that the trippy eclipse happened at 23+ Libra near my Neptune at 25+. (I have strong configurations with Nep... including a sextile to my NN-GC.)

You KNOW that in the COSMIC Dream Fields of Pisces, we have a Solar Eclipse imminent.

I heard that the effect of it will be quite sublime... like a drug-trip? If you want to alter your state of consciousness, it will be very EASY to do that at this time.

INCLUDING anything that alters your consciousness Naturally-- SUCH as using music, losing yourself in ARTwork, or any way you like to "lose" yourself. It is the last eclipse series in Virgo/Pisces... with the SN I Pisces, and Sun will conjunct NEPTUNE shortly afterwards.

TSaturn is ALSO on the GALACTIC CENTER 'right now' and will hover there and in that vicinity for a while. You might get to 'hold'(Saturn) the mystical messages and downloads then.

Also tChiron is still in Pisces, healing wounds for the cosmos.

I don't know if any of those match up for you?

tUranus Aries is trine tSaturn Sag-GC too.

A lot of FEAR is being felt through tBML having just entered Sagittarius (the Questor). I don't know if your bogeymen line up to that position in any way? But certainly, it might act as a facilitator (if you're going after the Fear-Factor??? LOL)

It will be interesting to follow the other people's input here.

(I'm feeling the effects of the eclipse and other configurations right now. Please forgive my awkwardness at this time.)

posted February 21, 2017 10:22 PM            

Do you proper thorough do-diligence and seek a personal guide to help you and wait until at least mid-May (when Uranus has passed out of these transits). At the moment you are not seeing clearly, are probably too enchanted with the idea, and may even have leaped to choose what substance (or modality) too early. Consult with an expert on that choice.

I support your right to do this, but I would rather you not presume that you've already picked the right therapeutic substance simply because what you've been going through has not yet responded to what you term "traditional" methods (by age 22). Make your search for healing wholer, broader, and more open. You may find it right under your nose.

I have used entheogens. None of them, and I mean NONE, compare to the healing available far more directly from Healing Energy itself.

If the time comes and you use the chosen plant substance in the proper set/setting, obtain only enough for one use, and wait for the healing triggered in YOU. That is where the magic is.

posted February 22, 2017 04:47 AM            

Just for reference, here are my natal chart and progressions (with transits for March 1, a date I was contemplating)

I see a lot of ambiguous influences, I can see them either helping me or smacking me upside the head.

Natal

posted February 22, 2017 05:01 AM            

Saturn about to enter my 8H...

Mercury going over Saturn on that particular day, some lessons.

Moon/Venus aren't doing anything, they're forming quincunxes to my Sun and Moon which is kind of awkward and might be a hindrance.

Sun/Neptune trine my Sun which I REALLY distrust, probably the most of all. Neptune in Pisces has been a terrible influence on me despite forming trines to my Scorpio planets.

Nodes square my AS/DSC axis...

posted February 23, 2017 09:07 PM            

Recently I came across the dates of some altered-state dreams I had had, and I looked at the transits going on in my chart.
(Lucid, mystical experiences that blew me away within a night-time dream.)

tPLUTO was hovering over my own Neptune, (which is occurring in your own chart).

You're having
Uranus square natal Neptune transit.

Quoting Robert Hand's book Planets in Transit, page 410-411.
I highly recommend this book to students of astrology. You can extrapolate a LOT of natal aspect information, as well as being informed by the transits to your natal charts.

Quoting

This transit can be a severe test of your grip on reality.
It can be very confusing and cause you to be misled in a variety of ways.
You may suddenly find yourself in the grip of a total delusion that you believe to be the most real thing you have ever encountered.
It is very important that you consider very carefully any new idea or philosophy before allowing it to take control of your life.
One {caution} of this transit is that you may allow some idea to control you.

At best, ideas and philosophies are devices that help you understand and make sense of the confusion of everyday experience.
But under this transit, ideas may become a substitute for experience, so that you begin to believe in things that you have never experienced.
You will be particularly attracted to ideas that help you avoid confrontations with the everyday world.
Sometimes this transit may cause you to turn to drugs,
usually psychedelics or amphetamines,
which provide mystical-seeming experiences,
rather than alcohol, barbiturates, or opiates.
But this manifestation is likely only if you have a tendency in this direction anyway.

You may turn to the study of mystical disciplines
in an effort to understand what is happening to you.
In itself this is not bad, but you will have to be very careful that such studies do not totally alter your sense of proportion.
It is best to expose yourself to these new ideas gradually, so that you can integrate new understanding with old, and thereby prevent this energy from being disruptive.

You may also be attracted to very abstract revolutionary ideals that call for total change in the name of a highly-elevated ideal.
But here again, you may only be withdrawing from an unpleasant confrontation with everyday reality, instead of dealing with it effectively.

end/quote Mr. Hand.

You also have Uranus traveling through your 12th house, which symbolically are the skeletons hiding in your unconscious mind.
This house also symbolically represents institutions ("such as prisons, hospitals, and asylums" - RH, p.381).

Sixth House people need to pay attention to the circadian rhythms of life. Good sleep, square nutritious meals, (with your Libra there) to have nice surroundings, Beauty represented in some way in your environment. Must feel harmonious and peaceful as possible or things will be off. Even your work atmosphere needs to have peace (with coworkers) so you can keep a peaceful balanced mind.

Keep your blood sugar and hormone levels good. Take care of your Kidney Health. (Libra H6)

You tend towards irritability, and worry, which affects health.

Natal Mercury squaring Uranus-Neptune could feel sometimes like you're about to have a nervous breakdown.

Saturn is your helper... stabilizes your health, your routines, if you apply the discipline-help available to you.

I wonder too... if being your own business could help you?

It's an exciting chart. Unique individual. Out of the box genius ideas? ...

I'd seen an individual with that kind of packed 6th that went into the medical fields. But her Sun wasn't there. You really need the rhythms of a regular routine.
You've got Saturn to help you.

Saturn .... Also is Government. Might support you in a career having to do with Government? I knew someone who had a Saturn 10th who did very well for herself in some form of government-supported work.

Anyways... You might not need the extra-help of psychedelics and mind-altering chemical/natural substances. Transits might trigger some of those FOR you.

Stay balanced. Keep your grounding, or, return to your Center wherever the flow takes you.

(topic) Gemini Rising, The Gemini Soul (Ruth Hadikin, esoteric astrology) [21:55] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dquqHNxvE2A

Your Progressed Chart has been shifting. Your P'Moon will enter Virgo (by the end of the year?). Virgo Moons tend towards worry and analyzing. Try not to be too critical of yourself. Use it to apply Care to self and others.

posted February 25, 2017 11:21 PM            

(music) You Are A Child Of The Universe (Les Crane, Fred Warner, 1971) [5:08] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=398_oV5ovyw

...

Not knowing what to do, can be an excellent place to be.

Out of chaos, you can come into a focus-within, a point of simple quiet Stillness, a clarity. Rest in that. And trust the process.

Have you ever been to an amusement park?

Ever do the 'tea cup' type ride?

You get in. The ride starts and whirls around. You too can make the tea cup spin on its own axis, by working the wheel in the middle-- making the tea cup race fast on its spindle, AS, the tea cup is spun like a giant centrifuge on a circle with all the other tea cups.

I specifically loved this ride as a kid. Ha! Amusement park rides? That's something that can alter your state of consciousness?

I was on this ride with one of my brothers once, at night.

The ride started. As usually, he and I began to work that wheel within our cup to make it spin really fast together--, when Suddenly!, it seemed as the world we were in, was holding perfectly still, and the rest of the world was just 'wallpaper' to our tea cup room.

The world around us looked smeared with crossing spaghetti lines of multi-colored lights against the black night.

All was Peaceful. I looked at him. It was as though 'nothing' was happening-- In fact for a moment, I could even say it was even near-boring?... except that my intellect knew in-fact, that we were spinning in the cup; and again, this spinning cup was in a wider spin. Everything Beautiful and Suspended....

Doesn't that sound like what the earth does? Planet tea cups, spinning; around our rotating Sun; in a wide berth around the edges of the core of Galaxy (Galactic Center)?

Your Presence, your Just Being 'who' you are (inside that tea cup, in that basket) is THE most more important place in the Universe, TO that Universe, at any given moment.

The thought that you were abandoned? .... Gently, no. Never. That's not possible.
Even deep deep in hidden Scorpio... (Your Maker knows your GPS).

I don't know if you have a spiritual preference?

When I've been at some of my low points, there had been certain music albums I wore out. When of them answered that song of 'what do you do' when you've done all you can, and nothing seems enough? ... You Stand.

(music) Stand (Donnie McClurkin, lyrics, gospel) [5:20] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuMLBhrKHsA

Wishing you The Best in this New Moon eclipse in Pisces, just inside your House of Dreams and Aspirations, of networking and friends, your internet friends groups and associations.

KNOW that The Universe HAS your Back. YOU Are Loved.... You Are Not Alone.

posted February 25, 2017 11:43 PM            

(music) Windmills Of Your Mind (Peter Grant) [3:01] http://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en&feature=related&v=dLx83xXKmPA&gl=IL

(music) You Are Not Alone (Michael Jackson, Live Munich 1997) [5:49] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHhrZxLWOHc