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soren
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posted March 25, 2017 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
a 12th house sun doesnt get the luxury of understanding of self

instead they look beyond themselves and see so much beauty and mangificence

that is their gift

a first house does not see beauty

they only are stuck with themself

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Aries23Degrees
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posted March 26, 2017 03:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun-Neptune conjunct person here and Sun in 12th resonates with me too.

"You are everything. And everything is you" is what i think of when i am describing this position.

Its not so much that we dont see ourselves at all. But in a world that is all about having a separate identity, we can come across as "clueless"

U see yourself and then you see the dog. Two separate identities

I see the self and then the dog. The self if it was a dog, get inside the dog, what is the dog like and thinkin? Come back to self and thus through that expansive view, i come home as not just me. But i bring the fragments of the dog too.

So its not just about being the self that the 12th house is all about. It is the "melting" into others too.

Many 12th house Suns,Pisces Suns and Nep-Sun people often view themselves as voidless or in some cases, beyond being human.

What they mean to say is that they dont recognize with the ego as self vs others. But rather as "we"....all of "we"


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soren
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posted March 26, 2017 03:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes a 12th will find themselves among others, all they see is the other and lose themselves in them, but obviously aware they arent

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mir
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posted March 26, 2017 06:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well said Aries.

Taking a stance might be a hard thing to do when seeing/meeting all perspectives around because of that.

We might cry the tears of the ones that left/hurt us as much as our own.

Sun 12th / Sun parallel neptune.

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