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Melinn
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posted May 27, 2018 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My friend believed he was born at midnight and I cast his chart 1 year ago, it turned Cancer asc. And it suits his character and Appearence so well! His moon was Pisces.

But today he was visiting his mother, and he has now looked at his birth certificate, it says his born 4 hours before midnight, 19.56

Which makes him, Aquarius with Aries moon!

My world has turned upside down! No really!

I can not for my life see him as an Aquarius!
His moon is odd aswell, he is not like an Aries moon:/ This does not make any sense at all for me!

I mean, for me, Aquarius asc is percieved, cold and a bit weird etc, And he is very warm and aproachable dunno maybe I'm wrong about Aquarius asc?

Can someone explain to me, ow I could sense cancer when he was aqua?!

Also depending on house system his Mars is ether in 11th or 12th house, how do one know wich is correct?

I don't know If I can post charts here?

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posted May 27, 2018 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One other problem is, his chart is a huuuge mess! The type of chart where if you use Placidus, his whole 1 house is emcompassing 3 different signs at once!

Also if I use Equal house system or Whole signs, again that too makes sense. I'm really at lost here, how the hell can one interpretent this mess of a chart?!

Like either he has Moon in 1th house, makes sense. But an other system gives moon in 3rd house, that makes sense aswell! ARRGH!

My own natal is not like that, Not much changes if I use different systems.

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posted May 27, 2018 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can link us to the chart, but don't post it.

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posted May 27, 2018 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok here it is then! Placidus system used, and a mess!

But actually when I have had time with this sinking in, so much makes sense now! For ex why I felt cancer risisng, he has moon in 1th hosue. Also why I felt pisces rising sometimes, He has it in 1th aswell.

And also his Aries moon is Conjunct My Venus. n.n and Jupiter, that explains a LOT!

He has Sun in 7th. Explains why he is so indeciesive, compromising a lot and a people pleaser. I thought it was his Venus haha

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posted May 27, 2018 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Most likely your friend is actually Capricorn rising with Neptune [22S19] parallel Asc [23-20 south ascending] (and/or Neptune conjunct Asc) and/or Moon square Asc +/-6°. Major aspects of water planets upon the correct Asc are usually the explanation for this. It is possible for Ascendant in Capricorn here to be in as many as 3 major aspects to a water planet: conjunct and parallel Neptune, square to Moon.

It is not uncommon for the personality to actually line up with the previous sign. The recorded time of birth, even if exact, does not necessarily give the actual rising sign, but is a starting place for finding it within about a 5-hour window of time.

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posted May 27, 2018 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon in aries can be warm and sweet if the moon aspects neptune. They are passionate.

I was with a:

1. Moon in aries conjunct mars trine saturn
2. Moon in aries Square Saturn and Neptune, trine jupiter, sextile mars
3. Moon in aries quintile Mars and Saturn

1 and 3 are more guarded, 2 was super sweet and reported he is usually more guarded but not with me, my theory is that bc I have moon in Pisces Square Neptune I helped him connect more with his moon square neptune making that aspect dominate in him over the moon square saturn.

Does your friend have moon square neptune?.

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posted May 27, 2018 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He has sun in Leo with MC in Sag ofcourse he seems warm and approachable.

And BINGO he has moon in aries square Neptune!

Yes that can make him act like a moon in pisces, it brings out the desire to rescue/help even more with the moon been in aries squaring neptune.

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posted May 27, 2018 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 27, 2018 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Member     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jupiter in pisces with Moon in 1st house, Neptune square Moon and trine Sun.

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posted May 28, 2018 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Moon in aries can be warm and sweet if the moon aspects neptune. They are passionate.

I was with a:

1. Moon in aries conjunct mars trine saturn
2. Moon in aries Square Saturn and Neptune, trine jupiter, sextile mars
3. Moon in aries quintile Mars and Saturn

1 and 3 are more guarded, 2 was super sweet and reported he is usually more guarded but not with me, my theory is that bc I have moon in Pisces Square Neptune I helped him connect more with his moon square neptune making that aspect dominate in him over the moon square saturn.

Does your friend have moon square neptune?.



Thank you dear! Yes Actually this chart makes more sense now to me too haha! There were some puzzle bites that was missing and now its mire complete. For instance, his Sun is leo but in 7th house, very Libra flavoured. And he is very relation orianted, he is superb at being the mediator and giving unbiased advice etc. he compromises very much. That Leo ego is not showed.

Also it explains why he is so moody even though he is so warm and kind! That really made me confused, I really could sense his mood changes but since he is not snappy like I em his was hard to detect sometimes. (But tnot for plutonian me!)

I always felt something Aries in him aswell! His sense of humor, how he is so easy to forget/forgive and move on. And how he has so easy to laughter! He can be vety bubbly and laughs very easily. His eye shape for instance, is Aries moon shaped.

I thought it was all due to Venus square Mars (aries flavour venus) but it was his moon!

Also this means, his Moon is Conjunct my Aries Venus-Jupiter-n.node in 8th!
That explains better one of our connections and why I feel so safe and understood by him! And why we never hold grudges against each other.

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posted May 28, 2018 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What throw me off scent his Aries moon in the beginning when I was trying to determin his moon Pisces vs Aries was: He is not seemingly Impatient. Maybe a tiny bit sometimes when he is moody. Also he is never "Me first!". He always thinks about other people before himself he is Never Selfish! Very untypical an Aries moon! And moon in 1th house?
(as a Venus Aries, I can be quite selfish myself haha!)

But I guess the Neptune Square Waters his Moons fiery energy down immensely? And makes him extra caring and empathetic aswell.

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posted May 28, 2018 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aquarius ASC can make someone friendly, outgoing and socially oriented. Aquarius is more social, independent and stubborn than weird. Your friend also has a lot of 7th house planets, which can give him a Libra vibe.

It's also possible that your friend has a different ASC.

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posted May 29, 2018 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right off the bat, there is ime always something awkward about Aqua energy ;whether Sun,Moon or Asc.

Many remind me of those guys on "Big bang theory"- particularly Sheldon (whom probably is Aqua Asc with Virgo Moon and Cap Sun.

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posted June 02, 2018 06:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
Aquarius ASC can make someone friendly, outgoing and socially oriented. Aquarius is more social, independent and stubborn than weird. Your friend also has a lot of 7th house planets, which can give him a Libra vibe.

It's also possible that your friend has a different ASC.


I guess I was a bit prejudice against aquarius rising! He is very social, outgoing and friendly. I thought it was his libra venus, and now, his moon in asc. He is very approachable and even though he is very muscular he has such an innocent and kind vibe to himself.

His rising has to be right, since its the time given in his birth certificate, and they do in our hospitals write it down just when the baby is out

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posted June 02, 2018 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Right off the bat, there is ime always something awkward about Aqua energy ;whether Sun,Moon or Asc.

Many remind me of those guys on "Big bang theory"- particularly Sheldon (whom probably is Aqua Asc with Virgo Moon and Cap Sun.


Hmm I know what you mean! No not really, he has no weird vibe. Just friendly, approachable, non-judgy vibe! Although maybe physically there may be something (aqua rising can have weird proportions) but thats hard to detect for me atleast. As he is muscular and has been gymming for years, so he has a very symmetrical looking body.

However his Aries moon makes a lot of sense! Both his eye shape (it has a shape typical to aries moons or mars-moons), and how innocent looking his eyes are at the same time as he has a mischievous look to them when he is happy haha.

Also that explains why he, our mutual friend and I works together so well as a group, our humor etc. Also why we can get irritated by each other as well!

Because I Have Moon conj Mars
He has Moon in Aries Square Mars
Our friend has Aries Moon conj Mars!

And they are conj my Aries Venus, N.node and Jupiter in 8th! haha steamy!

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posted June 02, 2018 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hmm I know what you mean! No not really, he has no weird vibe. Just friendly, approachable, non-judgy vibe! Although maybe physically there may be something (aqua rising can have weird proportions) but thats hard to detect for me atleast. As he is muscular and has been gymming for years, so he has a very symmetrical looking body.

However his Aries moon makes a lot of sense! Both his eye shape (it has a shape typical to aries moons or mars-moons), and how innocent looking his eyes are at the same time as he has a mischievous look to them when he is happy haha.

Also that explains why he, our mutual friend and I works together so well as a group, our humor etc. Also why we can get irritated by each other as well!

Because I Have Moon conj Mars
He has Moon in Aries Square Mars
Our friend has Aries Moon conj Mars!

And they are conj my Aries Venus, N.node and Jupiter in 8th! haha steamy!


Is the 6th house ruled by the Moon? If so, Moon/Mars could be the gym part.

What I was also relating to was a weird hobby or activity that he likes very much.

For instance an Aqua friend of mine with Venus also in Aqua is a comic book geek. Something you wouldn't guess when you are looking at his Cap Asc- so formal and businesslike. He was a manager for a huge convenience store.

Another Aqua Sun mate is a female impersonator. Not transgendered. But someone who impersonates females for comedy shows etc.

There is always ime something weird and unexpected that one finds out about the Aqua energy placement and its like "Really? You like that?" etc. And it usually has a shock element to it.

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posted June 02, 2018 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Is the 6th house ruled by the Moon? If so, Moon/Mars could be the gym part.

What I was also relating to was a weird hobby or activity that he likes very much.

For instance an Aqua friend of mine with Venus also in Aqua is a comic book geek. Something you wouldn't guess when you are looking at his Cap Asc- so formal and businesslike. He was a manager for a huge convenience store.

Another Aqua Sun mate is a female impersonator. Not transgendered. But someone who impersonates females for comedy shows etc.

There is always ime something weird and unexpected that one finds out about the Aqua energy placement and its like "Really? You like that?" etc. And it usually has a shock element to it.


OMG! YES! His 6th house is cancer ruled by moon in aries! As he has a weird chart with 3 signs in asc, I used equal, whole signs and regiomontanus and in everyone of them 6th house is cancer!

There is 2 things I found weird about him but not that weird for others maybe.
1- He eats oat porrige to breakfast, every fudging day! Like every morning! He is 32 years old and he has eaten porrige to breakfast like, his whole life! To me thats so weird! Both because oat porrige is so tasteless and bland. Also same thing to breakfast everyday? I would grow tired by day 3-4.

He has venus in libra, one would think he would be picky about food, or atleast have a need for good tasting food. Not this one. He does not care at all about how his food taste.

Food for him is merely just fuel for his body, and he eats very big amounts every day. Since he is gymming, he believes food is the only groth promoting fuel. He would never take protein supplements etc, he does not believe in them. And yes he has really big muscles.

The meals he cooks himself is the same thing everyday aswell. He boils whole wheat berries or whole oats everyday! He combines that with meat and veggies. I mean, the same food everyday! What the fudge! He almost never eat chips, or other snacks. He does not care for dessert either. He is not picky at all and can eat things that does not taste well.


He just wants his food to be practical and a fuel for his body.


As a mediterranean girl, I looove food and variety. Breakfast makes me excited and I love planning my breakfast. Yes I can eat the same thing for 3-4 days, if its a tasteful thing.

2-One other weird thing is how he does not care for traveling. He wants the safety of his home and gym. Dependig on house system, his saturn is in his 9th house in some, and 8th or 10 in others. He does not drive even though he has a license.

Also we live in a country where we have lots of lakes, he does not care for swimming or being in the nature. Even though his Mars is capri and conj Neptune.

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I don't have big muscles. But I gym too. And I enjoy oat porridge daily. I eat the same thing for breakfast daily and try to simplify my diet.

Again I think his discipline towards his meals could be the Moon/Mars interaction in the 6th. I have Mars in 6th square Moon and I totally relate.

The weird quirky hobby I was talking about was something more personal.

I just watched a doc featuring militant white supremist leader Eugene Terreblanche & he is Aqua Sun/Mercury.

In the doccie, it is clear that he was feared by those who opposed his ideas and those on his side of the camp as well.

What most people knew and experienced was that he was a man with such a violent and erratic approach to asserting his views.

But what many also didn't know and only found out posthumously about him was that he also wrote poems.

He released a CD compilation of his poetry late in his life and in his twilight years before his murder, he became a Christian.

And this is what I mean by Aqua.....a curve ball. Not predictable or completely one sided. Always some element of surprise

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posted June 05, 2018 06:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I don't have big muscles. But I gym too. And I enjoy oat porridge daily. I eat the same thing for breakfast daily and try to simplify my diet.

Again I think his discipline towards his meals could be the Moon/Mars interaction in the 6th. I have Mars in 6th square Moon and I totally relate.

The weird quirky hobby I was talking about was something more personal.

I just watched a doc featuring militant white supremist leader Eugene Terreblanche & he is Aqua Sun/Mercury.

In the doccie, it is clear that he was feared by those who opposed his ideas and those on his side of the camp as well.

What most people knew and experienced was that he was a man with such a violent and erratic approach to asserting his views.

But what many also didn't know and only found out posthumously about him was that he also wrote poems.

He released a CD compilation of his poetry late in his life and in his twilight years before his murder, he became a Christian.

And this is what I mean by Aqua.....a curve ball. Not predictable or completely one sided. Always some element of surprise



Omg You TOO?! Oat porridge every day?! Haha thats so interesting! And yay for you gymming! Great!


I'm a virgo asc, so I can really relate to disciplin when it comes to food and health. And I train too. Mostly running 3-4 times a week but weigh lifting also. I'm small and slender, running helps my Moon-Mars conjunction nervous energy

I quit gluten cold turkey 10 years ago and never went back. And that is super hard, I'm mediterranean I mind you, one of the best thing we make, like börek, contains wheat. Saying goodbye to pastries and bread and börek was the hardest thing ever, but I'm very disciplined. A quit is a quit!


I was having stomach issues and read up about how gluten affects us, and how its hard to detect intolerance by biopsy and blood tests. Or een if you are not intolerant our bodies does not handle the high dosage of gluten our wheat contains thise days. And I have not had stomach problems after that.

I recommend the book grain brain by David Perlmutter btw, awesome book about how gluten affects our brain.

I eat organic as much as I can and smoothies everyday. What I put into my body is very important to me. But eating the same thing everyday is where I put my foot down ahaha.

Afterall, I'm a Taurus sun! I love good tasting food and variety.

I read that being good with ones diet, disciplined etc is a moon-saturn thing also?

I have Moon -oppo saturn. He has Moon trine his Saturn.


But of course 6th house planets (moons contacts) makes sense! I will be on the look out for that one in other charts aswell.


Do you have moon-saturn contact?

I see what you mean by the aquarius curve ball. Afterall, we all have uranus somewhere. Mine in 4th. Chocking unconventional ideas and believes that chocks my family for ex.

I don't know whit my friend though. I don't know him that intemetely. He does not open up that much, I mean, he is open but some things you can not know if you are not partners or living together.

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Yeah. My Moon trines Saturn natally. Did the abandonment of gluten happen during a Pluto/Uranus transit to the Moon?

I remember food tasting like cardboard during the Uranus Moon square transit. I ate a lot of cereals for dinner for a while then and meat for breakfast. Strange time that was.

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Yeah. My Moon trines Saturn natally. Did the abandonment of gluten happen during a Pluto/Uranus transit to the Moon?

I remember food tasting like cardboard during the Uranus Moon square transit. I ate a lot of cereals for dinner for a while then and meat for breakfast. Strange time that was.


I love cereals! Good thing I can find gluten free ones

Hmm ok thats interesting! You have so much info and insights! <3

Yes actually Both transit Uranus and Saturn were square my natal moon. Saturn was going through my 1 house. Neptune and Chiron (real ruler of Virgo according to some) was in my 6th house.

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I love cereals! Good thing I can find gluten free ones

Hmm ok thats interesting! You have so much info and insights! <3

Yes actually Both transit Uranus and Saturn were square my natal moon. Saturn was going through my 1 house. Neptune and Chiron (real ruler of Virgo according to some) was in my 6th house.


Yes. The Neptune in 6th makes sense. Often this transit accompanies dietary complications that manifest as allergies i.e suddenly one is more susceptible to illness due to food poisoning or the stomach runs due to something disagreeable eaten that the native was not aware of.

If Saturn accompanies the Neptune influence, recovery is slow and the illness may have one pay closer attention to what they put in their mouth.

Neptune transits to 6th also encourage Veganism, vegetarian diet and "wholesome" eating habits. Concern over the humane treating of animals and how they are killed for human consumption, persuades the shift

Uranus in 6th is sudden dietary changes. If Saturn accompanies it,the changes take discipline and if practised without regression can lead to permanent changes.

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Yes. The Neptune in 6th makes sense. Often this transit accompanies dietary complications that manifest as allergies i.e suddenly one is more susceptible to illness due to food poisoning or the stomach runs due to something disagreeable eaten that the native was not aware of.

If Saturn accompanies the Neptune influence, recovery is slow and the illness may have one pay closer attention to what they put in their mouth.

Neptune transits to 6th also encourage Veganism, vegetarian diet and "wholesome" eating habits. Concern over the humane treating of animals and how they are killed for human consumption, persuades the shift

Uranus in 6th is sudden dietary changes. If Saturn accompanies it,the changes take discipline and if practised without regression can lead to permanent changes.


Yap, thats me! Either I did become more sensetive. Or I become more aware of how sensetive humans are to stuff we in west indulge so much in, like diary and gluten and fastfood etc.

I did try to cut of meat aswell, since I'm highly empathetic towards animals suffering, and I love animals, to the point that I think its cruel to keep certain pets indoors, our dogs without a purpuse just for our own satisfaction (I did that mistake myself with a pet, and I feel so bad for it)

I couldn't cut off meat, but I eat lamb and calf meat we buy from a farmer who treats them well, one can visit the farm for ex. And free range eggs etc. I have cut off diary though. Both because of health aspects, and how badly factory cows are being treated.

When uranus was going through my 6th, I got myself into bulemia, but it lasted for around 3-4 months. And it was for a "purpose" and not related to weight. When I gained the control in a situation I wanted and the purpose was fulfilled, I got out of it and never done something that stupid again lol. Plus I looked so ugly being thin


Have you had diet changes 6th house related?

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posted June 05, 2018 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just gym. Saturn in Virgo started the process waaaay back in 2008. It got more intense since.

Pluto opp Moon transit. I gave up drinking beer for dry red wine.

Pluto conjunct Mercury/Square Mars. More gym!

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Dietary changes make sense.

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