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StrandedSaturn
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posted June 01, 2018 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StrandedSaturn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you think, Astrologically, could make a person believe that others are enemies but they are often wrong about it. Like they feel threatened or they just treat others like enemies even if they aren't really. Their intuition, basically, is always on and on overdrive. What placements or planets or aspects come to mind?

Like even if there isn't any evidence. The person goes into all situations believing that others are possible threats. Even if they barely know the person or even never met the person. They go about life in a skeptical way and assume others are a threat.

What, astrologically, may indicate this?

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posted June 01, 2018 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Asc/Sun/Moon/Mercury in stressful aspect with Mars/Pluto.

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posted June 01, 2018 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
8th house placements. Sun and Mercury in 8th house.

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posted June 01, 2018 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Asc/Sun/Moon/Mercury in stressful aspect with Mars/Pluto.

Like sun square mars. Is this aspect quite rare in natals?

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posted June 01, 2018 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what about venus conjunct mars and uranus when they act like they hate the world and cuss at every driver lol

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posted June 01, 2018 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto in 7th. Ask any native

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posted June 01, 2018 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This would be my husband.

Pluto 7H op Asc/Venus

Not only is he paranoid but he attracts sh1t-head individuals! There’s always some type of drama around him :-/ Usually with women..

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posted June 01, 2018 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol

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posted June 01, 2018 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
Pluto in 7th. Ask any native

Agreed. I have this. Scorpio Moon is another that is quite suspicious of others.Moon/Pluto too.

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posted June 01, 2018 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MarsSaturnDelight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpio 11th house with hard aspects to 11th house ruler (Saturn/Merc)

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posted June 02, 2018 04:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Asc/Sun/Moon/Mercury in stressful aspect with Mars/Pluto.



i know someone with moon (dispositor of sun-mercury, moon) square mars (dispositor of mercury), ruler of ascendant (jupiter) square pluto and yes, he can be totally paranoid, seen enemies everywhere.

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posted June 02, 2018 04:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by capricorncheriscty:
8th house placements. Sun and Mercury in 8th house.

yes, my example above have many planets in 8th

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posted June 02, 2018 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charlie:
This would be my husband.

Pluto 7H op Asc/Venus

Not only is he paranoid but he attracts sh1t-head individuals! There’s always some type of drama around him :-/ Usually with women..



projectiion, he does not own his pluto energie and project it in women around him

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posted June 02, 2018 04:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would add that there must be (in addition to the plutonian quality) somehow a lack of objectivity in the chart (like lack of air) or mercury in water.

I have mercury-moon square pluto and I can be very suspicious of people's motives. However, my mercury-moon are in gemini and mercury is the final dispositor of my chart. this strong gemini flair makes me more objective and detached when analyzing my own projections and perception of people. however, if the square were in mercury cancer the story will be different as the mercury cancer will believe their own percepcion as reality...

so.. the pluto quality adds suspiciousness, but it needs to be reinforced by other themes in chart to make people think others are enemies.

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posted June 02, 2018 04:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Radium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kannon is right. Not ashamshed to admit I see others as enemies. I'd rather say I'm naturally very distrusting of people in general and it takes me a long time to open up. I will die for my loved ones and if I consider you family there's nothing I won't do for you. With this said I have a rough exterior and skeptical outlook on the world so don't take it personally if I keep my distance.

Scorpio Rising
Pluto in 1st
Sun Square Pluto
Sun Trine Ascendant
Moon and Mercury Opposite Mars
Venus Sextile Pluto

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posted June 02, 2018 04:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds like a shadow Scorpio, or a Scorpio who has been bullied so badly, he doesn't trust anyone anymore.

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posted June 02, 2018 05:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by charlie:
[b]This would be my husband.

Pluto 7H op Asc/Venus

Not only is he paranoid but he attracts sh1t-head individuals! There’s always some type of drama around him :-/ Usually with women..



projectiion, he does not own his pluto energie and project it in women around him[/B][/QUOTE]

EXACTLY!!! Solution??

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posted June 02, 2018 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charlie:
EXACTLY!!! Solution??

hahaha.. Charlie!!!

you may want to point out whenever he has those plutonian people in his life, maybe as a joke. i do not know how you tend to relate, but with someone with similar pattern i said one "you complain about intense women, but why do you think you attract intense women if there is nothing there inside you that resonates with intensity"... and leave it like that...another day you strike something else... it is a way to prompt awareness. first thing to own a planet energy is to become conscious that WE have that energy even if we do not behave as we had it. it is the first step.. if he accepts that, at least consciously, then he can start looking at his deep fears and need for manipulation and all the things plutonians you know.

to give an example i have neptune in 7th. i tend to project it rather than own it, but for the last few years (being aware of my own projections) i have become more neptunian (helped by some transit of neptune to my personal planets)... still i am projecting, but less i would say

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posted June 02, 2018 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and.. i would say that when sun transits pluto, lichting it, it is good time to bring awareness. a good time to drop one smart comment about his plutonian energy...LOL

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posted June 02, 2018 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pocketrocket     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
living proof:
Merc sq Pluto. 8th house.
Not only you assume that someone is an enemy - you attract them!

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posted June 02, 2018 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
and.. i would say that when sun transits pluto, lichting it, it is good time to bring awareness. a good time to drop one smart comment about his plutonian energy...LOL

Goody! I'll aim for the next eclipse.....BAM! Poor guy won't know what hit him LOL

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posted June 02, 2018 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope he is not reading this thread... lol

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posted June 02, 2018 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
THe asteroid Nemesis. Conj the Moon--women may turn out to enemies, conj the Sun--men etc. I should do an article on it lol

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posted June 06, 2018 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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posted June 06, 2018 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
THe asteroid Nemesis. Conj the Moon--women may turn out to enemies, conj the Sun--men etc. I should do an article on it lol


Should I keep away from Women ? 🙀
My Nemesis at 1° in Cancer 2nd house.
Nemesis conjunct Moon and Venus, Trine Jupiter, Inconjunct Uranus.
http://imgur.com/Tgw6POI

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