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moongaze
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posted July 05, 2018 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moongaze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A Singleton is a lone planet that stands by itself in either a given house, element, or modality and is generally viewed as an area of focus that is lacking in one's chart. However, my question is, what if one's dominant planet is the Singleton itself? My Singleton is due it being the only planet in air. It's my Aquarius Saturn in the 11th, with Saturn being my top dominant planet and Aquarius coming in third of all signs. Would this happen to correspond in a similar manner to a heavy air person, thereby counteracting the near air void to a degree? And how would this manifest in one's chart compared to a regular Singleton without any significant ranking? Thanks.

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posted July 05, 2018 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto in Scorpio is the only planet in water in my chart, but even though Pluto is a generational planet, it makes a lot of aspects in my chart and it's my chart ruler. It seems to have a personal effect on me. Honestly, I'm not sure how this differs from a normal singleton. If it helps, I don't feel like I'm actually lacking water qualities. I'm sure I may act like it sometimes, but this isn't the same thing as not having any. Water qualities are actually strongly felt for me. I'm sensitive, intuitive, and I have very strong emotions. There are probably other qualities I have too.

Having Saturn in Aquarius and in 11th house would probably strengthen Saturn's qualities and the meaning it has. I can't be sure. Maybe someone else can give you a better answer.

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posted July 05, 2018 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I second that, I also have Pluto in Scorpio as a singleton. And Pluto is my real chart ruler. J also have stelliums in 2 water houses though. So yes I agree having only one single planet in water seems enough ti make me very sensetive and intuitive. Also Sun and venus aspecting water planet neptune.

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Somna7H
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posted July 05, 2018 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please don't mind.
But how do you ppl find Dominant Planet in chat ?

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Kannon McAfee
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posted July 05, 2018 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only significance of the so-called singleton status of a planet is as it functions (as a stem/handle) within a larger configuration, which is not the case in your chart. And there is no need to look for something to counteract a 'near void', not a concept that serves interpretation.

Different astrologers and schools of astrology have different ideas about what defines a dominant planet.

If this is your chart ...

as seen on thread http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/236681.html

... then apparently you are defining 'dominant' here by the modern western tropical notion of Saturn being in the sign traditionally thought to be ruled by it. By the accounting of traditional Indian astrology (Shadbala composite strength rating) Saturn is the second weakest of all the traditional planets in your chart (along with Mercury), the Sun by far being the strongest. That is a composite rating composed of 6 different rating methods. What you're referencing in western astrology as the basis for 'strength' is only planet in sign.

Your chart shows a splash pattern (which by its nature includes numerous singletons) with planets spread around rather evenly with no gaps of at least 120°. That means no focal points unless there are conjunctions.

Your Sun-Venus conjunction creates a focal point (also parallel Mercury). Your Uranus-Neptune conjunction creates another. These prevent the energies of the splash pattern from being too scattered. But Saturn is not a focal point in your chart by any definition, especially since it is not even sole/final dispositor given that Pluto is in Scorpio (not that that concept is much help in interpretation either).

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moongaze
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posted July 06, 2018 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moongaze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
The only significance of the so-called singleton status of a planet is as it functions (as a stem/handle) within a larger configuration, which is not the case in your chart. And there is no need to look for something to counteract a 'near void', not a concept that serves interpretation.

Different astrologers and schools of astrology have different ideas about what defines a dominant planet.

If this is your chart ...

as seen on thread http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/236681.html

... then apparently you are defining 'dominant' here by the modern western tropical notion of Saturn being in the sign traditionally thought to be ruled by it. By the accounting of traditional Indian astrology (Shadbala composite strength rating) Saturn is the second weakest of all the traditional planets in your chart (along with Mercury), the Sun by far being the strongest. That is a composite rating composed of 6 different rating methods. What you're referencing in western astrology as the basis for 'strength' is only planet in sign.

Your chart shows a splash pattern (which by its nature includes numerous singletons) with planets spread around rather evenly with no gaps of at least 120°. That means no focal points unless there are conjunctions.

Your Sun-Venus conjunction creates a focal point (also parallel Mercury). Your Uranus-Neptune conjunction creates another. These prevent the energies of the splash pattern from being too scattered. But Saturn is not a focal point in your chart by any definition, especially since it is not even sole/final dispositor given that Pluto is in Scorpio (not that that concept is much help in interpretation either).


Wow, very informative -- thank you! Yes, I was basing it on Western astrology, having used the Walter Pullen method on Astro.com. I had always used that as my go-to for planetary strengths and weaknesses. I'm honestly not too familiar with Vedic astrology and never heard of Shadbala before. It looks quite interesting; I'll be sure to look further into it. Thanks again.

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Kannon McAfee
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posted July 07, 2018 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can view your planetary strengths in the freeware program Jagannotha Hora available for download here:
http://www.vedicastrologer.org/jh/

You enter your data, then click on the 'Strengths' tab in the row below it and to the left. It gives a graph in the top center labeled 'Shadbala'.

I have compared the Pullen rating to Shadbala. Shadbala is more in-depth, more accurate and reliable.

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