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Soulsjourney
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posted May 06, 2019 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soulsjourney     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My next Solar Return chart shows that I will be having a SR Mars conjunct my natal Mars as well as them both conjunct my SR DESC.

Should I be worried? I read mars in 7th is a bad sign (and I have so many....)


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posted May 07, 2019 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Kannon McAfee
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posted May 07, 2019 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, you shouldn't be worried. You're looking several months ahead to planet positions that are not even happening yet. That's no way to use astrology -- wondering if it's 'good' or 'bad' or what will happen to you. Astrology is not about what happens to use, but what we do with it!

The Mars-to-Mars here is a very brief transit and does not have a year-long effect as advocates of solar return charts would have you believe.

More important to understand are the longer term transits that may last all year or longer.

For example, you have Pluto trine natal Mars, and it will be in that transit for more than a year. That is a great window of opportunity for applying determination and greater depth to your efforts; will power and decisiveness are strengthened; a good time for focusing in on your real passions and turning them into prioritized actions. Saturn is also there now close to Pluto's position and also making a trine to natal Mars, which does not show in this set of transits in the solar return chart as depicted. This increases the practicality and control in focusing your passion into productive actions in work, increasing skill, practice of every kind.

Pluto is now square your natal Jupiter, which also strengthens confidence and desire to take some risks in moving forward with important plans, growth; a passion for making gains for yourself; It can open up opportunities in business or travel related efforts. That window of opportunity will have let up once your birthday comes around in September.

The problem is you are probably letting Neptune's move through mid-Pisces and making a square to natal Saturn get to you. This is a transit of testing mental integrity, what you do with doubts, and tends to temporarily lower confidence based on how much you think you are in control. The excess ego in that is cleansed away with this transit by Neptune. You may be the only person who knows where the ego really is, and these are your lessons to learn. This process is really one of opening the imagination to overcome what you think you've already learned and set into cement in your life. It helps to simply your life a bit during this transit and focus a bit more on the specific areas of uncertainty and anxiety. If you are worried about some aspect of your physical health or material well being, address it directly. Stop speculating or worrying about it, and if nothing proves to be wrong then go on with confidence.

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posted May 08, 2019 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScandinavianCrab     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
2002 i had a solar return with SR Saturn right at the cusp of SR 7th.

In SR 7th were also Mars, Sun, Moon, Mercury and Venus.

This was about 10 years before i knew anything about astrology besides sun signs.

You know what happened that year? 🙂

I met my wonderful Aries sun, Capricorn ascendant, girlfriend and spent the next 10 years with her. And we still talk to eachother on a regular basis.

To me your solar return speaks and breathes romance(!) with that crowded 7th falling in your natal 5th.

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Soulsjourney
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posted May 08, 2019 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soulsjourney     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the reply and the info Kannon McAfee and ScandinavianCrab. I guess I might be over-thinking it a bit much.

I did try to read up on the interpretation but it seems like most of SR stuff on the internet is leaning towards "Doom and Gloom"

eg.

Ascendant of Solar Return in the Seventh natal House; stellium of Solar Return in the Seventh House of SR; Sun of SR in the 7th House of SR; and/or Mars of SR in the 7th House of SR. The reading of each of these four combinations is quite similar and superimposable, still keeping in consideration that I have listed them in decreasing order of intensity.

This is a very insidious House, perhaps the worst one among those houses that I do not really consider to be potentially dangerous. Pay close attention to such a SR, because it may hide very fearful traps. When this House is in evidence in the chart of SR, you should always think of ‘stamped paper’, i.e. legal stuff, trouble with bureaucracy, possible trouble with the law, bad arguments, litigations, small and big ‘wars’, possible acts of aggression, and/or any sort of hostility. Once a man in his forties came to my counsulting room. He was dressed in a whimsical way, with a tuxedo, a bow tie and makeup on this face. He had maleficent celestials in the 2nd and the 5th House of his birth chart. I asked him if he had had some disappointments from the entertainment world. Almost with indignation, he replied that he was a comedian actor. Continuing the discussion, I realized that he was a poor man, a loser who, however, still assumed to be someone. He was in bad conditions. A SR had just begun for him with Mars of SR in the 7th House of SR and the AS of SR in his natal 7th, which was added to a birth chart with an already detrimental 7th House. I warned him to be careful with the law. A few months later I read in a newspaper that he had been killed by criminals.
During a SR with the Sun in the 7th House of SR, most of my counselees have been visited by officers of the customs, excise and tax – and the meeting was not good for them.
So when in a SR I see any of these positions, for example Mars of SR in the 7th House of SR, I suggest declaring war on the… entire world. In other words, you have to engage yourself in a sequel of little wars. For example, you may sue your neighbour for misusing a shared terrace; you may file a minor lawsuit against somebody at work; you may bring charges on relatives because of disputed inheritance. The ideal way to discharging this symbol would be to take part – at least have three or four times during the year – in television debates where people can give free rein to their aggressiveness, being involved in bad flames that provoke the worst passions of a human being. There may also be a serious risk of separation and divorce during a 7th-House-SR. So you had better try to have your partner also involved in litigations – with others, of course. Until your spouse is engaged in quarrelling with someone else, there would be minor risk of quarrels between the two of you.
During the 12 months of such SR you can also have several mishaps. Remember that the forty days around your birthday – approximately twenty days before and twenty days after it – are among the most eventful days of the year. This may imply both positive and negative events. For example, Italian prosecuting magistrate Giovanni Falcone was killed by terrorists a few days after his birthday. Occasionally you may happen to read of a famous football player, who scores two goals on the very day of his birthday. Also, in his memoirs, Giacomo Casanova wrote that as far as he could remember, at least seven or maybe ten of his birthdays were among the most exceptional days of his life: once he became a millionaire on the very day of his birthday; another time, on his birthday he escaped from one of the several prisons in which he spent a good part of his life.
So, let me tell you something personal that I consider being of particular significance in this context. One year I had not been able to avoid a SR with Mars in the 7th House. During the following twelve months I was particularly nervous, and resolved to try and ‘discharge’ this symbol by taking part in some personal controversy, even if I could have avoided it. I also encouraged my wife – a lawyer – to deal with as bellicose cases as possible. But I did not feel entirely safe against Mars of SR in the 7th of SR until that year was over. And it turned out to be a cursed year in fact, from this point of view; but in many other respects, it was also a positive one.
Now, the most important event of that SR occurred just the day before my next birthday, when I was already on my way to travel for relocating my following SR. Early that morning I went to the bank to change money. They handed over to me 10 notes of 100,000 Liras each. Then I took the Intercity to Rome and arrived to Fiumicino Airport. I was about to embark when I said to my wife, “Let’s have a coffee at the bar here inside the airport!” So I went to the cashier and paid two coffees with a bill of 100,000 Liras. (Translator’s Note: The cost of a coffee could have been perhaps 1,000 Liras each at that time, while 100,000 Liras was the highest-denomination bill. Obviously, this aroused suspicion in the cashier.) The cashier picked up the note, lifted it over his head and looked at it from below, then he examined it against the light, rubbed it between his fingers and he eventually told me that it did not seem a real note. “That’s strange – I told him trying to cool down the atmosphere, which was heating up – I’ve printed them this very night!” At that point, the cashier called another cashier and handed it over the note to him, who checked it with a much more professional expression and returned it to his colleagues, exclaiming: “How can it be that you have a white beard and you aren’t still able to recognize the notes?” And to me: “Sir, I’d be glad to accept scores of these notes from you!” The first cashier seemed to have accepted his colleague’s reproach.
He took the note and gave me back the change without blinking, but with an evident shade of hatred on his face. At this point, my wife and I drank the coffee and we left the bar to go and buy some newspaper at the kiosk of the airport. Soon after, we were just about to embark when the first cashier ran after us with a 100,000 Liras note in his hand, shouting at us: “You did give to me 100,000 false Liras! Now you must take it back and give me a good one!” I replied, “You must be crazy. This happened a quarter of an hour ago – now who assures me that this bill is the same that I gave to you?” “So – said the teller – you are accusing me to be a thief...” Meanwhile a small crowd had gathered around us, and we also risked losing the flight. So I convinced the wild man to come with me to the police station, where I told my version of the facts to a kind officer, adding: “Here in my wallet, I still have the other nine bills that I have been given from the bank this morning. Would you please test them?” So he did, stating that they were not false. Then he took the cashier – who hadn’t stopped cursing me – into another room. After a while, the policeman came out from that room, telling us that everything was OK.
He said that the Police would make a statement, and the insurance – not even the waiter! – would refund the damage. He begged our pardon in the name of the authorities of the airport, and allowed us to take our flight without even asking for our documents to identify us.
All this happened during the previous SR. It was an evident display of one of the most significant elements of that specific Solar Revolution, and it took place on one of the days around my next birthday (but it could have also happen immediately after the previous birthday). This convinced me once again of the exceptional way in which the symbols of the Solar Revolution express themselves.
A SR with a strong involvement of the 7th House may also herald separation from you partner; the beginning of an irregular affair; the beginning or an abrupt end of your job or of a business corporation in which you may be involved; the beginning of a situation that would lead you to a steady relationship, to settle down; or the beginning of a state of hostility with one of your neighbours, and so on.
So, unless you need to get married or divorced exactly during that year, I suggest you to try and ‘discharge’ these symbols also embarking on fake fights. I am confident that you will surely find plenty of people who would want to argue with you.
http://www.solarreturns.com/Solar_Returns_Book.htm

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Soulsjourney
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posted May 08, 2019 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soulsjourney     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ScandinavianCrab:
2002 i had a solar return with SR Saturn right at the cusp of SR 7th.

In SR 7th were also Mars, Sun, Moon, Mercury and Venus.

This was about 10 years before i knew anything about astrology besides sun signs.

You know what happened that year? 🙂

I met my wonderful Aries sun, Capricorn ascendant, girlfriend and spent the next 10 years with her. And we still talk to eachother on a regular basis.

To me your solar return speaks and breathes romance(!) with that crowded 7th falling in your natal 5th.


I did think about Mars in 7th house means attracting an Aries or someone with too much drive...and yes the 7th house SR overlap my 5th house Natal is definitely interesting too.

I'm still single, and I can see how next year might play out the relationship/open enemies part of my life a bit more.

And the 5th house SR is empty...

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posted May 09, 2019 01:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScandinavianCrab     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wouldnt trust someone who makes SR-intrepretations and the same time seems to make a living from calculating aimed solar returns. But thats just me

I dont know if it makes any difference for you, but the SR-year for when i met the 3 women whom i had longer relationships with i had a empty SR 5th in all of them. Though SR 7th and/or 8th has been crowded with planets in all 3 years.

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Youre born on about september 28th 1987 right?

Go to astro and view your natal and progressed planets for this fall. You see that progressed Mars in close conjunction with your natal Venus?
Combine that with Mars and Venus in the SR 7th and you have great potential for romance this year.
I believe your progressed ascendant is conjunct your natal Jupiter as well?

Just make sure to put your self "out there" this year and the universe will handle the rest

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Soulsjourney
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posted May 10, 2019 06:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soulsjourney     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ScandinavianCrab:
I wouldnt trust someone who makes SR-intrepretations and the same time seems to make a living from calculating aimed solar returns. But thats just me

I dont know if it makes any difference for you, but the SR-year for when i met the 3 women whom i had longer relationships with i had a empty SR 5th in all of them. Though SR 7th and/or 8th has been crowded with planets in all 3 years.

Edit:
Youre born on about september 28th 1987 right?

Go to astro and view your natal and progressed planets for this fall. You see that progressed Mars in close conjunction with your natal Venus?
Combine that with Mars and Venus in the SR 7th and you have great potential for romance this year.
I believe your progressed ascendant is conjunct your natal Jupiter as well?

Just make sure to put your self "out there" this year and the universe will handle the rest



Yes that is my birthdate. I forgot to check on my progressed chart. Thanks for reminding me. Its interesting that there is a conjunction, and also what is happening in SR.

I've never had a packed 7th house SR. This will be my first, it'll be interesting to see what it will mean for me. I thought you needed something to lead to a relationship (5th house dating?) LOL I don't know if I can handle someone drop out of the sky and ask me to be their partner LOL be a really good romantic comedy.

Well hopefully this year will be a fun year in the relationship department with all the signs.

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