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93nov
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posted October 11, 2019 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 93nov     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 11, 2019 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just wanted to say Welcome Back!!!

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posted October 12, 2019 02:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome back Yan. I wish I could help.

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posted October 12, 2019 04:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hierophantom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome back, and congrats with your degree.

I have looked at your chart and I first noticed you have a stellium in 6th house. A lot of energy is put into your daily routine cq. work. And with the things going on in your private life, it is okay. If you focus on your job, you can take a little distance from the mess at home. But be careful, you are prone to burnouts, if you don't have something else to keep you balanced. To keep you balanced you have to look at planets opposite to the stellium. You have no planets in the 12th. But still, it is healing for you, to have some spiritual outlet, and to seclude yourself from everyone and everything, to go inside yourself and contemplate about what you want and what you need and to go for it.
You have Uranus and Neptune in 9 so for you, if money alows it, a little, or big, vacation would also be healing. Combine this with the need for seclusion and I think of going in retraites. This will be healing for you because it will help you to become yourself.

You also have all the planets to the right side, wich means you are not a selfish person, but you want to please everyone around you. If you don't choose your own needs and wants over someone elses, you will lose yourself overtime. Especially during major transits, like you have now. This will not stop with your Moon, because almost all your planets are lined up. So your transits will take some time.

But there is no need to panic. The transits will be life changing and you are becoming the person you are supposed to be, and all this turmoil is to make the better version of you, like Yan 2.0
The transits will bring sudden (Uranus) and transformational (Pluto) changes into your most aspects of your personality. Right now, you feel you are being burned into ashes, but only to resurrect as a phenix. Try to embrace the transformation with a little curiosity, because you are going to be a whole new you and things will be alright, even though it might not feel that way right now. The burning will be painful, but the resurrection will make you alive and stronger than before. A soul won't get more than he is capable of, so consider yourself a very very strong woman (I guess you are a woman).

I also suggest you should live on your own asap. If you have a good job, just rent a room somewhere, as long as you don't have to live with your folks. If you have a good relationship, than you can move in with you boyfriend. But if that relationship is also a burden, live alone, because when the new you arrives, you will get rid of all the nonsense, even if it is a non-functional relationship.

So to summarize your astrological bucket list:

- Live on your own
- Get a nice job
- Balance out with time of seclusion to go inside yourself and develop spiritually
- Go to nice places / on holiday
- Stop people pleasing and go after your own needs, at 26, it is time to take your own life back
- Take distance from toxic people, this does not mean you are ungrateful to your parents, it is to take a rest, when you are strong enough, you will notice their behavior won't hurt you as much anymore.


Ps: funny how people always choose the studies to repair what went wrong in their youth. It is your life mission and you had to go through all that stuff with your father, to become aware of it. You have Midh. in Aquarius so you can turn it into a humanitarian mission to make the world a better place.

Good luck!


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mirage29
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posted October 12, 2019 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome back! .. {{ }}

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93nov
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posted October 13, 2019 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 93nov     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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charlie
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posted October 13, 2019 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don’t have much advice but I will say this:
Your parents sukc (excuse me!), you have a GOOD degree and you are alive! Go your own way even if that means homeless shelters. A lot of women take that route, temporarily, if it’s just to build up strength and be able to think clearly.
If you can afford it, move to a different city and start fresh but don’t let go of that degree!
Things might feel grim NOW (I’ve been there..) but I never let go of my curiosity of what tomorrow might have brought me. Sometimes it just helped sharing a few words with strangers in the local library!

Also, I now it’s easy for someone (me in this case) to try and give advice when I’m currently not in your situation but I HAVE been in bad situations. No money, no help, no job. Just don’t let the light within you fade away

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posted October 13, 2019 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hierophantom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know it is hard but I strongly suggest you to move out. Please don't let him get on your nerves. Maybe you can talk to a police officer, preferably female, explain the situation and how it FEELS for you. Try to get them on your side. But you have to do it rationally. Try not to get too stressed and emotional if you tell your story, try to be more authorative. Just explain the situation and ask them where you can go. Or are there any social services in your neighbourhood? And please try to take some Krav Maga lessons, if you go that homeless shelter road, you gonna need it. If you have a job, that will keep you on your feet. Maybe you can write some adds in the local supermarket, "Decent working girl looks for a rental room" for starters. You have to be very creative to get out of the house. Maybe there is some old lady with a spare room who also needs a hand. So for cheap rent and a little hand in the house you can rent a room in her house. There are plenty old ladies who need help but don't want to leave there homes for a retirement house. Be creative. There are options. There always are.

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posted October 13, 2019 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You need to cut your parents out of your life...both of them. I know it's hard, but you need to do it. I don't mean to be cruel, but I need to say it plainly: your parents don't love you. They are both toxic people and there is literally nothing you can do to please them, so don't even try.

You need to meet your own standards, not anyone else's. Live on your own (I wouldn't live with the boyfriend). Get a solid job in a new city and start from scratch. You really do need to wipe the slate clean. Being away from your toxic parents and your hometown will do you a world of good.

It's time to learnt to seek internal validation rather than external validation. You can't please everyone, so don't bend over backwards trying to do so. It's time for you to take care of you. Other people's wishes are not more important than your own. It's okay to be a little bit selfish. No one has bothered to put you first or consider your happiness, so you need to advocate for yourself.

I know this is such a scary time and it's stressful, but you will get through it. Take it one step at a time. You will make it through. I promise! ::hugs::

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posted October 13, 2019 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ .. Sometimes "parents" have other issues going on that even an 'adult child' can't understand.

CUTTING-slashing out of your life, is something that needs VERY CAREFUL consideration.

*~ {oops, sorry I didn't process your situation well-enough when I wrote this part}--
These people supported you so long, and 'still' have you under the roof now?.. That's a clue that care. They COULD have refused you, and put you out on the street as a homeless IF they truly didn't give a **** about you!!!

You've been moving through inner-turmoils with your own self and self's decisions. You DO have your degree!!!! hallelujah.
.. Gives you higher opportunities as far as jobs/career are concerned. You don't even have to follow CJ path... You can tweak HOW you want to use that degree.

Time to gently let go all the dynamics and drama of past family life... Very quietly and cleanly, know who 'you' are .. separate from 'them'. This is YOUR Wonderful Life, and Opportunity to move a step FORWARD into clarity of what you really want out of your life, 93nov.

You are not-them, yet, you are connected.

If you don't "need" to, then just separate without tantrum, drama, or violence.

By YOU owning and emancipating your own inner-self from them.. you can find a 'clean slate place' within yourself. Doing this with GRACE, you will have earned their admiration, AND at the same time provide your sister with a kind of strength for overcoming her own experiences? Also.. could find your 'strength' inside that sweet-spot within.

{{*hug*}}.. You won't be unhappy forever.
Believe in yourself. Believe that Good exists, and that Good is IN you and ready to 'connect'.

Gosh.... SUCH a hard place to be??

As MUCH as the Greater Part of you can manage,
detach with GRACE..
There IS a Future...

Your 9th house placements.. are very creative!! Nice place for those. 9th house is a legal house.

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I very much like what Charlie suggested.
Great advice!!

There are PROGRAMS for Women, such as what she described.
I hope the State where you live has that active there.

Going to the women's shelter would be actually a great start.

You have ALL those planets in your 6th House.
That's Service, that's Legal Bar societies and organizations. Also work around Unions and work-people endeavors.

This could be a fabulous seat-of-the-pantsuit education-- for insider 'experiential' knowledge, of a system that could use helpers in that Justice field?

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Astra
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posted October 13, 2019 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mirage29:
^ .. Sometimes "parents" have other issues going on that even an 'adult child' can't understand.

CUTTING-slashing out of your life, is something that needs VERY CAREFUL consideration.

*~ {oops, sorry I didn't process your situation well-enough when I wrote this part}--
These people supported you so long, and 'still' have you under the roof now?.. That's a clue that care. They COULD have refused you, and put you out on the street as a homeless IF they truly didn't give a **** about you!!!


I made the same incorrect assumption when I was younger. Allowing someone to live with you appears sweet on the surface, but that's all it is. Her parents care about appearances. Having an adult child living on the streets would reflect poorly on them. In addition, it's a control issue. They want to keep her dependent on them because it makes them feel powerful. Currently, she is dependent on them for a physical place to live and she is emotionally dependent on them (i.e. she is seeking their validation). This is not healthy.

You'll find that some people throughout your life will help you out of the goodness of their heart and some people will help you and use that against you. I've become pretty good at distinguishing between the two. Her parents fall into the latter category. They do not have pure intentions.

If you want to see what someone really thinks and feels about you, observe how they treat you on a regular basis. Her parents do not care about her. I've been in her shoes before and the healthiest thing I ever did was cut a parent out of my life for good. It's very difficult, but not all parents are loving. Staying in contact with a very toxic parent is just as bad as staying in an abusive romantic relationship. Sometimes you need to cut ties if you want to keep your sanity intact. She doesn't need to make a big fuss over this. Often just moving away is enough to cut all ties. There doesn't even need to be some dramatic conversation about it. She's an adult. She needs to move away and control her own life. If she doesn't make these changes now, then she will be forced (via circumstances) to make them during her Saturn Return. It will be much more painful the longer she waits.

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posted October 13, 2019 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks much for clarifying, Astra.


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posted October 13, 2019 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mirage29:
Thanks much for clarifying, Astra.


No problem, Mirage.

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posted October 16, 2019 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 21, 2019 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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93nov
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posted November 10, 2019 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 93nov     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm just ready to see the light of day again. I have been depressed and down and out for so long now.. I cry almost every day. My mental and emotional state is in shambles. Everywhere I turn, there's conflict and turmoil.. I've always wanted a deeply satisfying relationship alongside a happy family. I have none of that and things are only getting worse. My family is completely toxic and dysfunctional.. broken, bitter, and unhealthy. I have so many issues that I want to heal from but I feel like I'm being sucked into a black hole.

Transit Pluto is causing chaos and Uranus...

Is there an end to all of this madness any time soon?

I have a stellium so it's like a rippling Domino affect when it comes to timing. From the looks of it, I'm going to be depressed and unhappy all the way into my 30s.

Please. If anyone has any insight on my future transits, share please

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Is there an end to all of this madness any time soon?

Saturn will be conjunct Pluto (at 22Capricorn47*) on 12th January 2020 ... beginning a 34 year cycle that ends with their next conjunction (at 13Pisces12) on 2nd February 2014.

This will provide an opportunity for everyone on the planet to "make a new start". ... Some people will use that opportunity to change their lives - but others will allow it to pass by unnoticed.

That conjunction will activate the buffer configuration in your natal chart (Moon-Sun-Uranus/Neptune-Saturn). ... But, do you know yet how to make that buffer work for you (rather than against you)? ... And do you know how it has worked for (or against) you when it has been activated in the past by progressions or/and transits?


[ * Sabian Symbol for Capricorn 23 :-

A SOLDIER RECEIVING TWO AWARDS FOR BRAVERY IN COMBAT

This Symbol shows being able to receive praise, awards or rewards when they are due. We often need to be acknowledged for the issues or causes we’ve fought for and the battles we’ve endured. True deeds of valor and bravery should be rewarded. Whether you are rewarded, respected or recognized, for the good things you’ve done or not, you’ll know that you’ve done them. You will find that your efforts will, at some time, be recognized and some appreciation, payment or compensation will be offered. You may also be the one who needs to recognize others’ achievements. Subsequent awards are often greater than the first because the dangers are well understood. Repeated bravery. Medals, tributes or honors given. Insurance or legal claims. Giving thanks. Recognition for persistence. Award ceremonies. Posthumous awards.

The Caution: 'Awards' as band-aids for the purposes of assuaging the guilt of the populace so often produced in war. Desperate for recognition. Rejection lines. Bribery. ... (From http://sabiansymbols.com/symbol-lookup/ )]

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posted December 29, 2019 06:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi 93Nov,

I'm very sorry to hear about your personal circumstances, your father sounds like a very difficult man.

My first advice is think about him dying...is there anything you need to say to him before he does? Meditate on it, go deep. Remember our families are karmic connections, there is something to learn deep down about *you* from looking at his behaviour. Perhaps the insights you have gained from observing somebody with a completely blocked heart chakra will be something you use in your future career.

Okay secondly, you say you don't really love your father right now? Well, in that case you are FREE!! His criticism means absolutely nothing, he's just a low energy man, on a low vibration spouting a load of nonsense. Why are you listening to him? Pity him my dear, he is upset, depressed, lonely and angry. There is no light in his soul.

The rest of your family are tired too, drained and taking the easy route. Don't judge them. Don't worry about their choices. It is time to *take control* of your life.

There IS a job out there for you. You have to believe and be very open-minded as to what it may be.

As soon as you learn to be *you* despite the ridiculous people you are dealing with, then you will have passed the test and the Universe will give you a free pass to your next adventure.

Maybe I'm lucky, or maybe everybody can do this....I have this part of me which I feel is my higher self and even when things are dark and heavy this part of me views what people would regard as 'ME' as an outsider. I look at human me, living my life, in my body and my higher self 'me' can smile and see the bigger picture.

It brings to mind that Shakespeare quote, "All the world's a stage and all the men and women merely players."
Step outside of the drama and view your soul path. It is shiny and it is bright. ♥

Sending reiki hugs ♥

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Shalom and blessings~~~

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