posted December 27, 2019 06:12 PM            

I'm not sure how to word this topic properly, but I'll give it a shot..

Is it possible to heal from your own negative natal aspects?

I'll use my own natal chart and experiences as a quick example: I have a very intense, yet detached chart. Scorpio stellium. Sun-Pluto/Saturn in hard aspect. Moon in hard aspect to Uranus and Neptune. Mars conjunct NN square Saturn/ conjunct Pluto..

BUT I have ALWAYS had the need to merge completely and deeply with another person (I DO have Taurus ASC). Nurturing others and being intimate is what I live for. I can be detached as well, but aren't we all at one point or another?

I want a family one day with love and intimacy all around me, but my childhood and upbringing was nothing like it. Well, there were many good times too, but that underlying coldness and disconnect was always there.

Did you guys find peace with a few of your natal aspects and did you get what you always longed for?

You always hear things like "love yourself regardless" "be happy with who you are and what you have" etc but how is that possible when I genuinely feel like who I am, contradicts with how I'm living? I want intimacy and closeness, but I have ALWAYS been the one who cares the most. Family, friends, lovers, etc. Is the lesson in all of this to learn to be okay with these things? or fight against it all and work towards that inner longing I continuously feel?

posted December 28, 2019 03:55 AM            

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I'll use my own natal chart and experiences as a quick example: I have a very intense, yet detached chart. Scorpio stellium. Sun-Pluto/Saturn in hard aspect. Moon in hard aspect to Uranus and Neptune. Mars conjunct NN square Saturn/ conjunct Pluto..

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Is it ok for me to refer to that here? [Alternatively, could you please post it again here - using the Huber chart drawing style, as that will more clearly show the buffer* configuration (of Moon-Sun-Uranus/Neptune-Saturn)].

And ... you appear to have been born at a time and place that would make the 9/11 "Twin Towers" attack an extremely significant event in your life. ... So, are you able to comment on how it has impacted upon you (and your birthday celebrations) from 11th September 2001 onwards?

posted December 28, 2019 07:26 PM            

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Originally posted by 93nov:
... Is it possible to heal from your own negative natal aspects?

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Of course. It is really more about finding balance of the planetary energies for fullest expression of your soul.

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I'll use my own natal chart and experiences as a quick example: I have a very intense, yet detached chart. Scorpio stellium. Sun-Pluto/Saturn in hard aspect. Moon in hard aspect to Uranus and Neptune. Mars conjunct NN square Saturn/ conjunct Pluto..

BUT I have ALWAYS had the need to merge completely and deeply with another person (I DO have Taurus ASC). Nurturing others and being intimate is what I live for. I can be detached as well, but aren't we all at one point or another?

I want a family one day with love and intimacy all around me, but my childhood and upbringing was nothing like it. Well, there were many good times too, but that underlying coldness and disconnect was always there.

Did you guys find peace with a few of your natal aspects and did you get what you always longed for?

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Yes, I did, but it is still a work in progress nearing age 50. But I had to detach from the fantasy driven images or agendas in my own mind to be content. Which is really about learning to be content with myself.

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You always hear things like "love yourself regardless" "be happy with who you are and what you have" etc but how is that possible when I genuinely feel like who I am, contradicts with how I'm living? I want intimacy and closeness, but I have ALWAYS been the one who cares the most. Family, friends, lovers, etc. Is the lesson in all of this to learn to be okay with these things?

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Self-acceptance should not be equated to placid passivity. You can fully accept yourself today and still be interested in growing and improving.

The lesson is balance. Does that feel like balance to you? Balance is an inside job that then externalizes, allows you to deal with others, with circumstances with grace, patience, persistence.

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... or fight against it all and work towards that inner longing I continuously feel?

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Fight against what? Your own pattern? Others' being apparently less caring than you?

Is fighting anything or anyone the answer? I don't think so.

Balance.

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What are your experiences?

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Get the ego out of the way and many issues can resolve themselves within our own perspective. The ego is behind comparing and measuring (how much me vs how much them).

Changing who we are as personalities (related to Moon, Asc) takes time -- decades. It does not happen overnight, so it must come from a longing of the soul to be in balance. This is not behaviorism, fighting, punishment, self-punishment. It is seeing self's pattern clearly, as you are articulating here, and making a decision for a change within.

posted December 29, 2019 01:02 PM            

In the same breath, I also think that challenging aspects add a touch of human flaws to a person. They add character (particularly the squares)

These can be agents or catalysts for personality building i.e For isn't that the best gift you can give to yourself? By giving what you believe you lack on to others-thereby indirectly giving it to yourself?

Who for instance knows the pain of not fitting in or feeling very distanced from others better than a Moon/Uranus or Moon/Nep person?

In the above exmaples, the adverse aspect create the urgency from the individual in accepting others for what & whom they are because they themselves have known the rejection of feeling the "disconnect" of not being accepted from the core self.

And perhaps that is the most intimate relationship of all don't you think? For someone to know all your flaws and love you still? That doesn't sound like an aspect that is "bad" to me. And that's what is great about the Neptune/Moon aspect

Now in the other hand,if one gets into connections where there is a lack kf boundaries and/or one gives far more of themselves than the other is willing, that's a different story.

Here the energies concerned are from a place of "lack" ie. I want to have people approve of me and so I must give of me etc.

The trick is to not demand "change" on yourself. But to use the energies for something that reflects the best aspect of yourself.

This may mean that you accept yourself 'as is' and then demand the world to love you still. And the truth is that they will.They eventually always do.