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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted July 17, 2009 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
living right and making good choices has it's rewards! --i couldnt find the OLD OLD link, but here is a brief description of what i mean -

What is Dharma?

What You need to Know

Dharma is the path of righteousness and living one's life according to the codes of conduct as described by the Vedas and Upanishads. Dharma means "that which holds" the people of this world and the whole creation. It refers to the religious ethics as propounded by Hindu gurus in ancient Indian scriptures. Tulsidas, author of Ramcharitmanas, has defined the root of dharma as compassion. This principle was taken up by Lord Buddha in his immortal book of great wisdom, Dhammapada.

Hinduism describes dharma as the natural universal laws whose observance enables humans to be contented and happy, and to save himself from degradation and suffering. Dharma is the moral law combined with spiritual discipline that guides one's life. Hindus consider dharma the very foundation of life. Atharva Veda describes dharma symbolically: Prithivim dharmana dhritam, that is, "this world is upheld by dharma".

Hinduism accepts the concept of reincarnation, and what determines the state of an individual in the next existence is karma which refers to the actions undertaken by the body and the mind. In order to achieve good karma it is important to live life according to dharma, what is right. This involves doing what is right for the individual, the family, the class or caste and also for the universe itself.

Dharma is like a cosmic norm and if one goes against the norm it can result in bad karma. So, dharma affects the future according to the karma accumulated. Therefore one's dharmic path in the next life is the one necessary to bring to fruition all the results of past karma.

The term dharma can best be explained as the "law of being" without which things cannot exist, just as the essential factor in human being is life - the atman without which he cannot exist. Therefore the dharma of human being is atman. And hence any good atmic quality is dharmic. Dharma therefore implies duty - a course of conduct. For example, Hinduism endorses the idea that it is one's dharma to marry, raise a family and provide for that family in whatever way is necessary.

Anything that helps human being to reach god is dharma and anything that hinders human being from reaching god is adharma. For instance, in the epic poem Mahabharata, the Pandavas represent dharma in life and the Kauravas represent adharma.

The essence of dharma lies in possessing a certain ability, power and spiritual strength. Vedic Dharma is always truthful because its basis is the unique combination of spiritual brilliance and physical prowess.

Hindu saints have classified all human aspirations under four broad categories: dharma, kama (desire), artha (money) and moksha (liberation from the cycle of birth and death). The practice of dharma gives an experience of peace, joy, strength and tranquillity within one's self and makes life disciplined. Of these four values the majority of human beings pursue artha and kama, and the more sensitive individual pursue dharma, while very few are conscious if the moksha - ideal spiritual aspiration.

According to the Bhagavat Purana, righteous living or life on a dharmic path has four aspects: austerity (tap), purity (shauch), compassion (daya) and truthfulness (satya); and adharmic or unrighteous life has three vices: pride (ahankar), contact (sangh), and intoxication (madya).

Manusmriti written by the ancient sage Manu, prescribes ten essential rules for the observance of dharma: Patience (dhriti), forgiveness (kshama), piety or self control (dama), honesty (asteya), sanctity (shauch), control of senses (indraiya-nigrah), reason (dhi), knowledge or learning (vidya), truthfulness (satya) and absence of anger (krodha). Manu further writes, "Non-violence, truth, non-coveting, purity of body and mind, control of senses are the essence of dharma". Therefore dharmic laws govern not only the individual but all in society.

The purpose of dharma is not only to attain a union of the soul with the supreme reality, it also suggests a code of conduct that is intended to secure both worldly joys and supreme happiness. Rishi Kanda has defined dharma in Vaisesika as "that confers worldly joys and leads to supreme happiness". Hinduism is the religion that suggests methods for the attainment of the highest ideal and eternal bliss here and now on earth and not somewhere in heaven.

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted July 17, 2009 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
i believe this with all of my heart.

do good and right and nothing can come to you but good and right.

do wrong and ...dont expect to reap rewards that are right and good.

this is good stuff.

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posted July 17, 2009 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
"so what you are saying cpn is if we practice these rules of dharma, good things will come to us?"

abosolutely that is what i am saying to you!

Manusmriti written by the ancient sage Manu, prescribes ten essential rules for the observance of dharma:
Patience (dhriti),
forgiveness (kshama),
piety or self control (dama), honesty (asteya),
sanctity (shauch),
control of senses (indraiya-nigrah),
reason (dhi),
knowledge or learning (vidya),
truthfulness (satya) and
absence of anger (krodha).

Manu further writes, "Non-violence, truth, non-coveting, purity of body and mind, control of senses are the essence of dharma". Therefore dharmic laws govern not only the individual but all in society.

worldly joys and leads to supreme happiness NOW in this life...yes.....abosolutely...

the attainment of the highest ideal and eternal bliss here and now on earth and not somewhere in heaven.


"wow, cpn, that is some deep stuff, and yet so simple."

i know i know, sometimes thing can be so very simple. and we people try to make them so complicated and sophisticated.

"good stuff, cpn."

why thank you.

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posted July 17, 2009 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deux*Antares     Edit/Delete Message
What does "control of senses" mean?

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posted July 17, 2009 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
i think sobriety, the hardest one of course.
clarity of mind.

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posted July 17, 2009 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
let me go further on that and think, my opinion only, as long as you are in control of your senses, which to me would mean slight buzz is ok, loss of control from substance, not ok.

control of senses.

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posted July 17, 2009 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
i'm nota hindu nor do i belong to any organized religion,but..there are good things to be found. basic principles.

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posted July 17, 2009 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
We studied this in a college religion course I took and I felt drawn to it the same way you do CPN. I like logical stuff that is not so open for wildly veering interpratations.(I know I spelled that wrong, I do not care)
Doesn't mean I don't slip, cause I sure do!
But I certainly see the sense and the worth in following something such as this.

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posted July 17, 2009 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
My take on control of senses is a bit different, though.

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posted July 17, 2009 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
what is your take on it? self control?

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posted July 17, 2009 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
this explains in better detail:

Dharma: The Righteous Way of Life

It is essential to follow the path of dharma to achieve abiding peace and happiness in life. People wrongly confuse dharma with ritualistic religion. In fact conscious observance of religious rituals inspires us to imbibe true attributes of dharma and eliminate from our minds, hearts, speech and acts the evil tendencies and practices.

Dharma, when rightly practised gives permanent peace and happiness. It provides right solutions to conflicts and averts crises. Life becomes more and more joy-filled and purposeful.

Prominent Indian seers and practitioners of the Art of Life discovered a sunlit path of righteous living through which life could be lived happily and peacefully. They termed it dharma (path of righteous living) with its ten main attributes or virtues. Any person who practises these ten virtues attains true happiness and also makes others happy. These features are:

dhriti kshama damo"stute yai shaucamindri nigrah
dhividya satyakrodho dashakam dharma lakshanam

Meaning: "Patience, forgiveness, self-control, non-stealing, cleanliness and purity, restraint over the senses, wisdom, knowledge, truth and calmness are the ten attributes of dharma" These are not only the attributes of dharma but also of humanism and are the cornerstones for bringing about world peace.

To consider anyone who practices these ten features as a follower of a particular organised 'religion' would be a narrow-minded attitude. They are not confined to one sect or religion but have a universal import for all humanity. These virtues cannot be brushed aside as blind beliefs because they have been tested rationally and practically; they have proved to be eternally operating principles of noble human life. All religions, sects, prophets, saints and mahatmas have stressed the practice of these virtues for well-being of individuals, societies and humanity as a whole. Let us discuss them in some detail.

Dhriti (patience): Man cannot live without activity. The development of an individual, the maintenance of a family, social service, etc. is dependent on action. If man had not been active, he would not have progressed. There would have been no buildings, no crop cultivation; no distinct manmade edifice of human civilisation and culture. Whatever we see today has been made possible due to human activity.

Any work undertaken can only be accomplished with patience. Before beginning a work, a patient person thinks about its positive and negative results, and thus chooses the right method to execute it. An impatient person, on the contrary, neither thinks about the consequences of his actions nor of its worthiness. He acts haphazardly, without due planning, and so his actions remain infructuous. For him, it becomes a wasteful exercise.

Impatience is a very bad habit. There is lack of seriousness in an impatient person, due to which he is ignored, condemned and sneered at in the society. His mind remains unstable and hence he cannot think methodically on any subject. He also cannot make wide choices. Due to disorganisation, indecisiveness and incapability, he suffers constant failure and becomes miserable. A person who is patient performs all his actions wisely, with full concentration and zeal. He performs his duties without worrying about results. Hence the success or failure of his efforts does not bother him. Such persons achieve stupendous success and attain peace and happiness in life.

Kshama (forgiveness): A person who forgives others their trespasses creates no enemies and adversaries. He thinks about the welfare of everyone in the world and obtains people's support and blessings in his endeavours. He receives love and respect wherever he goes.

Forgiveness is not a sign of cowardice or weakness but a sign and symbol of stable mind, peaceful heart and awakened soul. To forgive someone who has committed a crime, not to harbour ill feelings or feelings of revenge against such a person is beyond the capacity of a weak or fickle-minded person. It is impossible to imagine that a person who has no enemies, who is loved by all, lacks happiness and peace.

Dama (control over the mind and desires): It implies reining in of erratic, wayward and unbridled mad rush of chaotic thoughts, desires and unrefined instincts. It is not possible to overcome evil with a thoughtless, vengeful approach. Fire can be extinguished by water and hostility can be ended by kind-heartedness. A person possessing the quality of 'dama' remains attuned to the noble urges of his soul and protects it from ignoble thoughts and rogue desires. He thus conserves energy which would otherwise have been wasted in self indulgence; and thus conserves, augments and refines his psycho-somatic energies for performing noble, joy-filled, altruistic acts.

Asteya (non-stealing): Here non-stealing also means integrity and honesty. An honest person does not covet what belongs to others. He practices truthfulness in thought, speech and action. Such a person acquires trust of all who come in contact with him. He lives a pious, pure, fearless and happy life.

Shauca (cleanliness and purity): The body of a person whose mind and praña are pure remains healthy. Bodily and mental disorders or sinful activities do not invade him. He always maintains an inner and outer purity and cleanliness. He keeps himself free of mental and physical impurities. He performs altruistic acts and attains inner peace.

Indriya-nigrah (sense-control):Res-traint over senses means the development of three qualities in a person: optimum food intake, judicious use of money and restrained speech. Optimum food intake protects him from diseases, judicious and wise use of money protects from poverty and indebtedness and restrained speech keeps him away from unwanted conflicts and arguments. He thus attains health and happiness. On the contrary a person who is a slave of the senses remains ever dissatisfied, discontented, unhappy and unhealthy.

Dhi (wisdom): A wise person is never daunted by the gravity of any difficulty because of his wisdom. Discriminative wisdom makes him ever wakeful and fearless and engages him in righteous deeds. Hence a wise person lives a life of abiding peace and happiness.

Vidya (knowledge): Vidya refers not only to school/university education but also to practical knowledge of the laws of life gained through experience. In the absence of practical knowledge a person rarely develops humility and becomes arrogant. He is not respected anywhere; people ignore him as much as they can. All his wealth and possessions become useless due to the lack of right knowledge. If an ignorant person inherits wealth, he would not be able to handle it wisely or use it for noble purposes. He suffers at every step in his life. Even in most adverse conditions, a person endowed with knowledge and wisdom would live in peace.

Satya (truth): Truth means absence of falsehood or distortions in all its masks. One who worships truth does not get influenced by the masquerade of any person or object and does not try to imitate anybody or covet any object. He ever remains a seeker of truth and tries to discover the reality behind every event, person or object. The speech of the seeker of truth is straightforward and his deeds resonate with his innate integrity and honesty. Truth is the essence of life. It is impregnable armour against all evils.

Akrodha (non-anger): Akrodha means refusing to be provoked to anger under all circumstances. Conquest of anger means conquest of the world. An angry person does not think about the consequences of his actions and commits unpardonable blunders. Anger stuns the reasoning and discriminative faculties and inexorably pushes a person towards self-destruction.

On the other hand a person who is calm and cool in the face of gravest of provocations meets all that life brings to his door with equanimity and becomes a source of inspiration and strength for others. Thus one who practises the above principles of dharma experiences unalloyed peace and happiness


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posted July 17, 2009 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
guess i was wrong about control of senses, almost more self control.

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posted July 17, 2009 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deux*Antares     Edit/Delete Message
The 2nd article is clearer. Thanks, Cpn.

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posted July 17, 2009 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, sorry took so long, I take it as self-control.

I think it is a GOOD thing to lose control of your senses now and then because it helps to open up and sort out what has been building up.

Like when you have a major crying session or some kind of emotional meltdown, to some that may seem like being out of control, but it is actually a good thing because obviously there are issues that need adressing.
Some times people use alcohol for this very reason, to access their emotions.
I'm not an advocate for that.
I can throw a hissy with the best of them stone-cold sober, but for some tampering with conciousness is a way to get to some sort of breakthrough.

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