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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted November 22, 2010 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
**note to moderator: I have posted this on what I believe to be the 3 most active forums. Please feel free to move/delete as necessary.

Please feel free to move this if it belongs on another forum.

What is Astrology?

So, I was browsing Lindaland Central 2.0 because admittedly, I have not explored LL as I much as I should, and the discovery of this forum has made me want to see what else LL has to offer.

After all, as Randall stated, LL is an astrology community.

Incidentally, a quick Google search will yield the discovery that many such astrology communities exist on the web. Some are better than others. I happen to believe that LL is the best.

as·trol·o·gy noun \ə-ˈsträ-lə-jç\
1archaic : astronomy
2: the divination of the supposed influences of the stars and planets on human affairs and terrestrial events by their positions and aspects

In short, ASTROLOGY is primarily relating to how the STARS and PLANETS impact HUMAN LIVES.

It really can't be said any plainer than that.

Someone asked "What does rough sex have to do with astrology?"

EVERYTHING! Astrology is about people. What they think, feel, believe, how they behave, interact, make love, make war, and impact their environment. The difference between someone who likes rough sex and someone who doesn't is astrology. Human beings all over the world may contemplate suicide, but the difference between someone who will discuss it openly and someone who will not is astrology.

LL is a community. These forums were created so that people who share something in common, which is their love of astrology, could come together as a COMMUNITY and interact. There is something here for everyone.

I don't think the problem with LL is that there is too much diversity here. I think the problem with LL is that people have lost sight of the human element of LL and forgotten that astrology is about PEOPLE and stars. They have gotten so caught up in the esoteric meaning of this asteroid and that aspect and forgotten the entire point of the art and the science of it all, which is that it is meant to discern how it all impacts the HUMAN mind and the HUMAN heart.

Getting LL back is not about getting rid of Sweet Peas, or unbanning certain people. It is about remembering why we are here, why we love astrology, and what astrology is about.

This is what other communities do, and this is what Linda Goodman loved to do.

Remembering the human element of astrology does not mean abandoning new discoveries, advanced theories, or complex analysis...but the personal element must not be forgotten.

There truly is something here for everyone. I firmly believe that.

And if you don't, well maybe this isn't the place for you anymore. People and things do outgrow each other, after all.

Please look inside yourself and think about that before posting any more negativity.

As always, this is just my .02.

Thank you,
StarrofVenusGirl


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Randall
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posted November 22, 2010 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
This is actually a perfect topic for this Forum. Lindaland is a progression--a growing, living site with its own personality and Energy. It is the etheric combination of all of the Knowflakes here...and who have ever been here. It never moves backwards, because it can't. Growth is outward, upward, and onward. Sure, it was a Love and Light marshmallowey fluffy place 100 percent of the time--when it had ten members. Lindaland insists on growing. We had a mass exodus where everyone left. I mean everyone. In two months, it was bigger than ever before. Just over a year ago, after growing for a full eight years, every single member was deleted. Including me! Within a month, we were back at top posting levels, and now just over a year later, we are larger than we have ever been. Lindaland is doing great things for people, helping in ways that are incalculable. For example, let's say I buy a book for ten cents at a yard sale. I love that book and don't want to part with it. But I donate it to the public library. Does the Universe reward me? Sure. That's just Universal Law. Does the Universe value my gift at ten cents? No way. I gave a gift that is priceless. Many people over time will be able to experience joy or be helped that never would have been had I not donated that book. The value is not able to be quantified. The same applies when one Knowflake helps another, listens to another, sympathizes with another, or loves another. You can't buy that for any price. You can't sell it. It is given--freely and openly. And it is priceless. This is the most special place on the entire Net. And I have been entrusted by whatever higher power to protect it. I take that responsibility very seriously. Like any leader, I have had to make tough decisions, and I have also made errors of judgment. I'm human. But I always try to do the right thing. I always do what I feel in my heart is the best thing for Lindaland, even when those decisions are not popular ones.

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"A heart of gold cannot be borrowed, bought, or sold."

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MysticMelody
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posted November 22, 2010 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
"If only you could love deeply
enough and sustain love long enough, you could become the source of your
own miracles, as powerful as the ancient "gods and goddesses." There is
no dream you couldn't turn into a reality, no law you can't change, no
situation you can't reverse - if only you could love enough..."
~Linda Goodman

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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted November 22, 2010 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message

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PlutoSquared
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posted November 22, 2010 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
FREEDOM OF SPEECH & ANTI-DISCRIMINATION... let's bring in 2011 and beyond with an open mind and a honest heart!!!

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SunChild
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posted November 22, 2010 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
Absolutely Star of Venus Girl!

You got it!!!! & Thank you!

Randall

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Randall
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posted November 22, 2010 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
"Love is man's and woman's deepest need. It's not the threat of illness or poverty that crushes the human spirit but the fear that there is no one who truly cares - no one who really understands." --Linda Goodman

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Randall
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posted November 22, 2010 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
but making me understand, at last, Gooober's words
he wrote in his note, so long ago
.....that love...is not always doing what brings pleasure
love is also doing what is good for someone
whatever the cost, at the moment

sometimes it's leaving...for awhile
and the love is shown, then, in the pain given

...for pain is a lesson
.......best learned
from the one who loves you most

Linda Goodman

Gooberz pg. 1014 & 1015

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Randall
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posted November 22, 2010 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
"...be still, my love, be still..
somewhere a clock is timing us" --Linda Goodman

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Randall
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posted November 22, 2010 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Teach Me, Reach Me

our Lovemaking...

is like a flaming volcano of mysterious origin
lightning flashes at its summit
and quaking at its base
rain falling in its hollows
with hot lava pouring over us
in an uncontrollable avalanche

then swirling into baby rivers
of tenderness
and gentle

and alternating stream
anew each time
and new and new
that flows into
and calms and steadies..our souls

Linda Goodman

page 55 LOVE POEMS

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WinkAway
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posted November 23, 2010 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WinkAway     Edit/Delete Message
StarOfVenusGirl
2 thumbs way way up
What a well thought out response.
Very well said..
Let's not forget who this site is in honor of..

Randall,
That's one book I'm shamed to say I haven't read yet. The Love Poems book.
Which is odd for me because I love poetry. I've written a few in my lifetime but NOBODY writes like Linda.. that brought tears to my eyes. Just beautiful

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AcousticGod
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posted November 23, 2010 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not one of those that is sentimental about old LL. I was here for it. It was essentially the same, except that those that spoke of sex were generally ostracized by the more prudish elements, and not even entirely so. They just thought it was a but crass and tasteless, which is pretty much the same as now.

quote:
There truly is something here for everyone. I firmly believe that.

I do, too, except that some people need to stand aside, and not be so meddlesome. I have to seriously contemplate my presence here at the moment, because I'm under constant threat of being banned, and in all likelihood I'd be banned for speaking sense into a situation. That's always been part of my role here. People didn't use to call Moderators if there was an issue. They'd call me. Now my nurturing role, instead of being met with gratitude, is greeted with contempt by a person who would actually believe he'd be doing a public service in ridding his site of me.

Ah well...what can you do?

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Randall
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posted November 23, 2010 05:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
No one said anything was wrong about speaking sense. But if, on that fateful night, you defended the three causing fires here and joined in their crusade, then yes, you would have been banned.

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"The earth is not given to us by our mothers and our fathers, it is borrowed from our children."

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Lara
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posted November 23, 2010 07:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
LOL @that fated night!
Ridiculous.

Acoustic God,
I think everyone is seen as in contempt now or at least vulnerable to being banned simply because the truth has been distorted and buried. Facts turned to fiction.

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LEXX
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posted November 23, 2010 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Randall!

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Everyone is a teacher...
Everyone is a student...
Learning is eternal...LEXX
~Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. ~Carl Sagan
~The present time is theirs, but the future is mine. ~Nikola Tesla"
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♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥

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Ami Anne
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posted November 23, 2010 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
LOL @that fated night!
Ridiculous.

Acoustic God,
I think everyone is seen as in contempt now or at least vulnerable to being banned simply because the truth has been distorted and buried. Facts turned to fiction.



Dear Lara
I ask this nicely even though I feel angry and don't want to be nice

Can't you see how this statement would be inflammatory and cause dissension/fights.

Why do you say things like this?
Do you want to start fights?
Do you not KNOW you will?
Are you unaware of things that will start fights?

It HAS to be one of the two. I am not sure which one .

I really ask humbly but I do feel anger and irritation so I must say that, too.

I have seen this pattern with you countless times.
Then, after the fight ,you say "WHAT happened?

I am doing a forensic of it before it happens,this time.
I am like Quincy before the murder

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Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend.

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MysticMelody
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posted November 23, 2010 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
"If only you could love deeply
enough and sustain love long enough, you could become the source of your
own miracles, as powerful as the ancient "gods and goddesses." There is
no dream you couldn't turn into a reality, no law you can't change, no
situation you can't reverse - if only you could love enough..."
~Linda Goodman

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bunnies
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posted November 23, 2010 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message
Well I'm with Lara on this one.
So there.

Ami are you a Libra perchance? (I have no idea)
I have had a lot of truck with female Librans in the past. They run around like Miss sweetness and light supposedly keeping the peace whilst holding a very strong position on the fence, carefully calculating which side is going to win....then conveniently sending up a rousing cheer for the winners.
I should imagine there are a lot of Librans who work in Royal Households.

Far be it for me to say that you are like this but pray tell, what did Lara do?
Other than say the comment "that fateful night" was ridiculous.
Which it was.
I mean sweet Jesus, it wasn't a bloody military coup....or did I miss something?

I neither side with Randall or Lara. I know neither of them well enough to do that, but I will defend Lara's right to have an opinion.

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bunnies
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posted November 23, 2010 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message
Oh sorry....and I forgot and and

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bunnies
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posted November 23, 2010 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message
A choir of
to soften my opinion

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Lara
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posted November 23, 2010 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
LMFAO

Bunnies, can you email me pls?

Yes, I'm afraid Ami I haven't said anything untoward but l know you played a large part in that fateful night and without tipping the scales, l smell a cover up on those scales that are tipped downwards
TRUTH is all I care about and that "fated" night was one of lies, deceit, manipulation, arse licking and coverups. You were there, you know the truth so why should we be subjected to fiction then???
I never start fights, l uncover truth.
HUGE difference.

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Ami Anne
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posted November 23, 2010 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
It is so weird ,Bunnies.
I am not a Libra BUT you and I have a weird vibe with each other cuz I feel very irritated by you, too,in much the same way you describe of me .
Remember when I asked you if you were an Aqua.
That was why

Some people irritate other people and it is USUALLY cuz we see ourselves in them.
Peace, Girlfriend.
May we both grow and mature from our relationship with each other !


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katatonic
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posted November 23, 2010 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
with all due respect to ALL involved, while i try to be respectful even in GU there is a BIG DIFF between being respectful while disagreeing, which is very possible, and attempting to pretend we love everyone. if there is to be no tolerance for differences of opinion or requests for FACTS which HAVE been buried, ami, or EVERYONE would KNOW what happened the other night...then there is NO POINT in this board either.

are we all to slobber all over each and every person we come across or be considered "fractious"? where's the fun in that? i realize some people are pathologically afraid of arguments but they are part of life. i actually enjoy a good verbal fencing match, tho as said i try not to go to the lowest places.

i don't really know what happened the other night, deletions and edits abound and leave a big hole in the evidence, just as if someone wanted to cover up the truth. this is what lara and bunnies were talking about and if it were critical information buried in the CLASSIFIED records of government it would be considered "controlling" to say the least.

but there is a big difference between disagreeing with what someone says or does and implying their character is defective - and putting a syrupy tone on it doesn't hide the implication or intent to undermine.

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posted November 23, 2010 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message
what you are unaware of, kat, is that some were being deeply disrespectful so they were banned...from what i understand is i was apart of the arguement and i didnt even get to defend myself because i wasnt online, and last time i checked that is not respectful and if anything that is what i am the most mad about...like randall i do not tolerate unfairness, calling names, and being absolutely disrespectful, and one thing you missed is someone went around and saying "f u randall and f this site" so tell me, how respectful is that? and i say this with the utmost respect because i have no bad blood with you kat

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Ami Anne
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posted November 23, 2010 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
All I wanted to do with humility and respect was point out Lara's MANNER in her posts .
Grrrrrr----I don't want to start the fight all over ,again
Bottom line---There is a difference between disagreement and defaming.
The law honors this and we should ,too.
That is it.
Now, some people can disagree WHERE that line is.
That is the issue, really,but Randall makes the rules.
He is the leader and what he says goes.
If someone does not like that, they should leave.
Why stay if you can't submit to the leadership in a place where you are a member?


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