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Ami Anne
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posted January 30, 2012 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One is Google wanting to get in to people's lives
The other is U Tube doing the same
Worse is Monsanto and genetically modified food Oy Vey

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jwhop
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posted January 30, 2012 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"One is Google wanting to get in to people's lives"

Well, I'm not a Google fan nor am I a Google member. I also don't want my search patterns scanned by Google so they can offer me a list of search hits they think I would be interested in.

"The other is U Tube doing the same"

I didn't know about this but then, I don't spend any time to speak about on YouTube.

"Worse is Monsanto and genetically modified food Oy Vey"

I'm not for genetically modified food and I also heard somewhere in the last few days they were adding a herbicide gene to the seeds to allow plants to better compete with weeds for available nutrients and water. I think 2-4-D was mentioned.

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juniperb
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posted January 30, 2012 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami Anne, if you`re really interested, there`s a good link on sopa and pipa in LLC2
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum25/HTML/003083.html

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katatonic
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posted January 30, 2012 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
there's a thread about monsanto, ami, on this forum. there are a couple of large petitions going round facebook too, to ask for some action against them, or at least to prevent the continuing conflict of interest we have with a major monsanto player doing the revolving doors between the FDA and back and back again!

i think that 2 4 D was actually WD-40, jwhop. in the hopes of creating crops that can withstand oilspills, monsanto has been doubling down in the labs...

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jwhop
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posted January 30, 2012 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WD-40?

Hell, I drink WD-40 to keep my vocal cords from rusting up!

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katatonic
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posted January 30, 2012 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well then you may just be one of us mutant survivors...long ago i adopted the only half-joking motto, MUTATE OR DIE!

monsanto's roundup is apparently responsible for new superweeds that outstrip anything they can come up with. and side by side with killer weeds will be the insects who adapt, licketysplit, to whatever the mad doctors come up with!

hopefully their house of cards is within spitting distance of falling down on their ratty little heads!

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BearsArcher
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posted January 30, 2012 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BearsArcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay.. I am now totally confused.. at first it seemed that the Mods addition was at the bottom of the page. Weird.


Fact, we have been eating Genetically modified foods for.. well, forever. Corn is genetically modified in that it is "sexed" and pollinated manually. We use genetics in order to keep specific veges from being attacked by various parasites and insects. Each time a gene is inserted in order to allow that to happen. That means it is genetically modified.


I believe in 100% reporting and that we should know when it happens. I also believe (which as not happened) that all meat sold in the US should have the country of Orgin and not the country of "slaughter" which happens now (meaning... Mexican and Canadian beef, which is not to our standards, only has to reside here for 60 to 90 days before being declared "American".

We drink apple juice and other juice made in China and Brazil that uses horrible pesticides that are not permitted in the US but no fights about that. How sad....

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juniperb
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posted January 31, 2012 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Okay.. I am now totally confused.. at first it seemed that the Mods addition was at the bottom of the page. Weird.

Mods addition? Now I`m totally corn-fused

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jwhop
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posted January 31, 2012 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello BearsArcher.

We've had this same discussion here years ago about genetically modified foods and you and I agreed vegetable foods and fruit have been modified for thousands of years...by selective breeding..cross pollination or grafting in the case of fruit.

For the last 40 years...or so, table vegetable hybrids have been available which are more resistant to pests, fungus, wilts and nematodes...and/or taste better, or hold their flavor longer or ship better.

I don't know any more than I did when this subject came up here in the past. But, the concerns I have about modifying food crops at the cellular level centers more on how much of the pesticide and/or herbicide being inserted into these GM food crops finds it's way into the actual produce...if any.

It bothers me that I can't get this information from reliable sources. Perhaps you can..or already have!


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katatonic
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posted January 31, 2012 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
crossbreeding plants is one thing. importing genes from animals into plants and vice versa is another thing altogether.

no one is happy about the chinese imports either, but that is a separate matter from monsanto, who do everything they can to sew up the food supply - moving ever closer to "owning" all seed and patenting their "progeny".

then there is the major conflict of interest having michael taylor seesawing back and forth between monsanto and the FDA, who have given the okay to products with little to no testing, created labelling to negate the labels consumers insisted on regarding gmos in their food, etc etc etc. mr taylor has been doing the revolving door act for several years now.

rats are not people. however trials of several gmos on rats have shown results of deformities, organ failures, and reproductive failure over a period of a couple of generations. BECAUSE rats are not people, though genetically they are quite similar! we need to see some longer testing periods before we know what the effect of these new species are...and by the time a couple of HUMAN generations have passed there may be no turning back at the rate monsanto is pushing its creations.

i do my best to eat and drink local, and check the source as well as possible otherwise...lucky me, local means very likely organic and NONmodified. gmos are not allowed to be grown in my region, though there is no ban on what sells here.

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lu_pirate
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posted February 06, 2012 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lu_pirate     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since you have integrity enough It's not THAAT scary. Still unconfortable, but not that scary.

Well, they say, "do anything like you're being filmed". It's not that you are not supposed to do what others disaprove, but It's just that, when they discover what you've done, you are not surprised.

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SaggiMC
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posted February 09, 2012 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
facebook ain't any better

The False Illusion Of Facebook http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/42201-the-false-illusion-of-facebook-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilT8YI6zPvQ
http://www.facebook.com/pages/David-Icke/147823328841

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katatonic
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posted February 09, 2012 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum26/HTML/001052.html

why is it that european govts LISTEN to their citizens about things like monsanto and gmos? while ours has monsanto staffing the fda?

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katatonic
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posted February 09, 2012 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
here's something to keep you up at night ami!

The poll done by Republican polling firm Wenzel Strategies for World Net Daily found something similar to my own recent analysis of state polling data that the 2012 election is beginning to look like a replay of 2008. The Wenzel/WND poll turned up the surprising statistic that no matter who the Republican nominee is, one fifth of the Republican voters surveyed are leaning towards voting for President Obama.

The only Republican candidate who doesn’t lose at least 20% of GOP voters to Obama is Ron Paul, and he loses 19%. The poll found that 54% of those surveyed believed that Obama had exceeded or lived up to their expectations, and 47% said that he had not. Sixty percent of Independents thought Obama has met or exceeded their expectations as did 52% of moderates. In the head to head match ups with all voters polled Obama leads Romney, 48%-41%, Gingrich, 50%-36%, and Santorum, 49%-34%. Ron Paul fares best against Obama and he trails the president, 44%-40%.

The truth is that the far right is freaking out because they don’t understand how so many of their fellow Republicans could consider voting for a president that they can only see through their Marxist/Socialist delusions about him. The reality is that the imaginary Obama they see isn’t the same as what the rest of America sees.
http://www.politicususa.com/en/republicans-support-obama

i think the last line really says it all!

next stop, bahamas, eh?

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katatonic
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posted February 12, 2012 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and, ami anne, if you want to help keep monsanto at bay, you might read this (as well as signing one of the petitions going around that ask for action against their sneaky tactics)
http://www.gaia-health.com/articles501/000524-save-heirloom-seeds.shtml#.TzWexECdysM.facebook

jwhop, also a fan of heirlooms, might also find this one interesting!

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katatonic
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posted February 12, 2012 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
anyone who claims to be a supporter of "free market enterprise" should do whatever they can to get monsanto leashed and muzzled, sorry, they are sliding around in govt clothes sneaking their agenda past, bribing congressmen, and using their big money to force out smaller companies like these.

mostly they would not succeed without the IGNORANCE of the general public. so info is vital and so is supporting the organic companies.

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