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BlueRoamer
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posted July 09, 2017 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trump has truly bent over for Putin and Russia, confused and aliented our allies. He is the hallmark of the decline of the United States as a super power. He detests freedom and american values because they allow people to speak negatively of him. He is truly anti-american and his mental weakness marks sad loss of american liberty being the dominating world player. Unforutnately this leaves a gap for russia and china to gain dominance, both authoritarian countries with little regard for the planet and human rights. A sad day for America. This is the fault of both the right and the left. It is the fault of centrist, overly capitalist american policy, which allowed the midwest and south to rot financially, leading to the opiate epidemic and despair we see in our heartland and south, creating a gap for this nightmare president to be elected.

The problem with america is the have nots don't see themselves as have nots- they live in delusion, the delusion of the american dream, which for many is gone. The have nots need to seee themselves for what they are, have nots, and vote for a working class champion who will help rehabilitate our falling midwest and south and get these pill epidemics under control. The US is turning inward because we have allowed ourselves to rot with overaly austere social policy and overly capitalist economic policy.

We can't come back until we fix the shadow brewing within us. Anger isn't the answer, we have to fix the cancer growing in america. The working class white voter will continue to enact its suicidal agenda on the rest of us until we get them jobs, purpose, and off opiates. We need hope again and the answer is not corporate america, they will drain every penny they can at the cost of human life. We need assertive social policy to fix this isssue, but the republicans are blinded by their own greed and selfishenss, and the democrats scattered by their own intellectual superiority and indulgence in identity politics.

The democrats are the only hope we have, flawed and weak, and corrupt as they are. They need to offer hope and change to the working class white voter in pennsylvania, ohio, michigan, florida. This is the only way america can keep from spiralling into a broken version of its former self, or worse civil war. The democrats need to DROP the "better than the other guy" thing. Hillary the ultimate example of this smug superiority and arrogance, corporate beholdeness, and false promises to the American middle class. Candidates like Hillary need to GO HOME, we are done with them. Take your ego and your smug arrogance and GO HOME.

Nothing is created by focusing on the negative. Democrats need to focus on a vision of economic equality and social programs that enable and uplift those that are left behind. They need to find their voice and appeal through social and economic policy, to rebuff corporate interest and boost our midwest and southern middle class. Trumps promises are hot air, just like him. Empty empty empty. We need a working class hero, now more than ever. If the democrats don't find a way to get elected corporate special interest will continue to drive our country into the ground, and ultimately will be their own undoing. The pitchforks will come for the rich, educated, and scapegoats, if we can't get our **** together. We must find our balance, our center that puts the voter in a place where opportunity is possible again. We have to inspire hope in the middle of our country or the whole ship is going to sink. No more false promises, no more fake and insincere egocentric candidates. Corporate and speical interest needs to wake up to the fact that they are a huge part of the problem, if they don't seek out solutions and aid the government in helping the people, the people will turn against everything, like a psychotic dog biting its own tail off. We're headed on a slippery slope here and we don't have that much time to correct it. So democrats wake the **** up and find some better candidates, and corporate america needs to fund candidates that will help to balance the scales a little bit so we don't have a maoist revolution- which serves no one.

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jwhop
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posted July 09, 2017 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My advice:

Lay off of the Loco Weed.

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Randall
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posted July 09, 2017 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hope and change? You mean like Obama gave us? Economic equality? Good luck with that insanity! NOT!

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teasel
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posted July 09, 2017 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jwhop:
My advice:

Lay off of the Loco Weed.


My advice: open your eyes. You voted for the guy who sold us out to Russia, and continues to do so.

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jwhop
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posted July 09, 2017 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another Loco Weed user.

President Trump is Putin's worst nightmare.

The President offered Europe shipments of Natural Gas to heat their homes and power their factories...after Putin threatened to shut down the pipeline...which he has already done before.

For all the other Loco Weed users, Russia's biggest exports are oil and natural gas. The President just threatened Russia's main source of revenue and it's probable that at least Poland will take the President up on his offer.

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posted July 09, 2017 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jwhop:
Another Loco Weed user.

President Trump is Putin's worst nightmare.

The President offered Europe shipments of Natural Gas to heat their homes and power their factories...after Putin threatened to shut down the pipeline...which he has already done before.

For all the other Loco Weed users, Russia's biggest exports are oil and natural gas. The President just threatened Russia's main source of revenue and it's probable that at least Poland will take the President up on his offer.


Nope. I've never used drugs.

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jwhop
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posted July 10, 2017 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
President Trump..and his domestic energy policy of increasing oil and gas production is the biggest nightmare Putin is facing. But, leave it to leftist non-thinkers to always get it wrong.

July 10, 2017
Two key House members call to investigate Russian 'collusion' with anti-fracking green groups
Thomas Lifson

Charges of "Russian collusion" may have opened Pandora's Box for the environmentalist wing of the Democratic Party and the American left. Republican congressman Lamar Smith, chairman of the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee, and energy subcommittee chairman Rep. Randy Weber have sent a letter to Treasury Secretary Stephen Mnuchin, calling:

... on the Trump administration to investigate whether Russia is trying to undermine the U.S. energy industry by funding environmental activism as part of a "propaganda war against fossil fuels."

They lay out the logic of the case:

Russia's goal is to "suppress the widespread adoption of fracking in Europe and the U.S.," according to a letter to Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin from House Science, Space and Technology Committee chairman Lamar Smith and energy subcommittee chairman Randy Weber.

"If you connect the dots, it is clear that Russia is funding U.S. environmental groups in an effort to suppress our domestic oil and gas industry, specifically hydraulic fracking," said Mr. Smith, Texas Republican, in a Friday statement.

"They have established an elaborate scheme that funnels money through shell companies in Bermuda," he said. "This scheme may violate federal law and certainly distorts the U.S. energy market. The American people deserve to know the truth and I am confident Secretary Mnuchin will investigate the allegations."

The Republicans said the panel is already conducting oversight into "what appears to be a concerted effort by foreign entities to funnel millions of dollars through various non-profit entities to influence the U.S. energy market."

Certainly Russia has a motive. The widespread adoption of hydraulic fracturing and horizontal drilling has fueled an energy boom in the United States that threatens Russian exports of oil and natural gas, which accounted for 68 percent of the country's export revenue in 2013.

The letter pointed to reports that Russian entities may have funneled millions through a Bermuda shell company, Klein Ltd., to the Sea Change Foundation in San Francisco, which has in turn provided grants on anti-fracking groups like the Sierra Club and the League of Conservation Voters Education Fund.

Proving such a link is another matter. The letter acknowledged that the "Russian government and complicit parties have executed a political agenda with little or no paper trail."

"By incorporating in Bermuda, Klein is not required to disclose its donors' identities or countries of origin," the letter said.

The left is going to live to regret choosing "collusion with Russia" as theme for its attempt to unseat an elected president. The vulnerabilities are all on its own side, starting with Hillary Clinton's Uranium One deal and the hundred-million-dollar reward reaped by the Clinton Foundation. But that is just the tip of the left's gigantic iceberg.

Russia and the USSR have a lot of history using purportedly independent political movements in foreign countries for their own purposes. The Communist Party of the USA maintained numerous front groups and served as a cat's paw for the Kremlin. The most consequential instance of collusion with leftist political groups was the antiwar movement of the 1960s and '70s, which actually succeeded in forcing U.S. withdrawal and the fall of South Vietnam under the rule of the communist North regime. The role of communist agents was exposed when the Kremlin archives were opened up.

Oil and gas are Russia's only major source of foreign currency and hence its ability to buy foreign goods and project its power beyond its borders. Fracking has devastated oil prices, hence Russia's income from hydrocarbons. Worse is yet to come as U.S. LNG shipments weaken the prices and political leverage Putin can get from his natural gas exports to Europe. He has a clear and direct interest in doing as much as he can to hinder fracking. Donald Trump's enthusiastic support for fracking has always given the lie to the notion that Putin would want to put him in the Oval Office.

If hard evidence can be found of money-laundering and other methods of hiding Russian collusion with major green groups, the political consequences could be profound. While the banking secrecy laws are a huge obstacle to obtaining proof, Mnuchin's Treasury Department has a lot of tools for going after money flows, thanks to the wars on drugs and terror. And the standards of evidence are different between the court of law and the court of public opinion.

It's time to apply Alinsky's Rule Number Four to the left: "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/07/two_key_house_members_call_to_investigate_russian_collusion_with_antifracking_green_groups.html

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mirage29
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posted July 10, 2017 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BlueRoamer...

That speech was a very powerful, conscientious, ass kicking, sensitive, and caring use of words. Thankyou.

{You running for office anywhere??? ... You Rock!}

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posted July 10, 2017 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As far as LocoWeed is concerned???
mwahahahahhahah omg!!!!! {{hug!!!}}

At this point, I haven't done any of that in DECADES!!!!! but I spend 3/4s of my money making medical insurance payments-- which I pay and pay and pay into, and HARDLY ever use.

They don't have enough doctors here -- people can't find doctors accepting new patients. And, not all of the ones who are, will accept my champagne high-quality insurance?!!

I need to look into using some of my insurance, and see if I can get me some WEED Prescriptions!!!
LMAO!!

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jwhop
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posted July 10, 2017 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mirage29:
As far as LocoWeed is concerned???
mwahahahahhahah omg!!!!! {{hug!!!}}

At this point, I haven't done any of that in DECADES!!!!! but I spend 3/4s of my money making medical insurance payments-- which I pay and pay and pay into, and HARDLY ever use.

They don't have enough doctors here -- people can't find doctors accepting new patients. And, not all of the ones who are, will accept my champagne high-quality insurance?!!

I need to look into using some of my insurance, and see if I can get me some WEED Prescriptions!!!
LMAO!!


Welcome to the medical gulag of ObamaCare. Sky High premiums, Sky High Deductibles, Few doctors but, if you can find one, you might get a prescription for Loco Weed.

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posted July 10, 2017 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have an Obamacare insurance policy....

I've been paying into the same 'quality' COPAY insurance since July 1999.

They had given me a call last year, and said that (for me, in around two more years), my insurance costs would be slashed in HALF as I reached age 64 (or 65?).

But NOW??????, due to Trump????????? --- HE has made an opening for the insurance companies to NOT slash their prices for seniors, and instead, charge MORE?? ...

Plus, when you're an elder???, the body is ALL ABOUT "being" a pre-existing condition-- we have medical records that go for DECADES!

I've had a low-thyroid problem since my 20s. Every time I'd be hired into a different job, I'd have to WAIT 2 or 2 1/2 years BEFORE the insurance would kick in and pay for my doctor appointments, and the periodic blood-lab level checks.

The pills for that (then) were paid in cash, and were a relatively low price.

Decades later, when 'pub-BUSH started his Big-Pharma Insurance that EVERYONE was "required" to partake in, the prices of my 'scripts rose ASTRONOMICALLY.

For the same hormone supplement, I paid a HIGHER cash cost than I'd EVER paid before. Costs rose INSANEly.


Under Obama, I qualified for 'extra-help', that dropped my costs for prescriptions to lower than I had EVER paid. Now, that copay I have for pharma is back UP 10%.

My costs under "Trump" right now, are going WAY UP, based on HIS politics and removing ethical-behavior requirements of businesses??

C'mon now???? LOL ....

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posted July 10, 2017 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"My costs under "Trump" right now, are going WAY UP, based on HIS politics and removing ethical-behavior requirements of businesses??"

You don't have any medical costs under Trump.

No repeal and replacement of ObamaCare has occurred...yet.

You're under ObamaCare rules, regulations and policies.

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posted July 10, 2017 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mom's neighbor has Medicare and the optional Medicare supplement. He is fully covered. He works for a contractor at Fort Benning that requires all employees purchase health insurance from the company. He had to buy it even though he doesn't need it and will never use it, or else he would have been terminated. If that's not bad enough, his medication was only $4, but now he's in the computer system as having regular health insurance, so he now has to pay $700! Thanks, Obamacare!

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posted July 10, 2017 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is definitely a 'problem' with Medicare.

Medicare is very good.
If you get hired by a company who has a crappy insurance plan, then "Medicare" becomes your Secondary insurance, and the CRAPPY plan is First.

Medicare then operates as a "copay" insurance instead of as Primary.
You are forced to be covered under the rules of crappy-plan that the business chose (probably trying to bare-bone CUT their own costs!! and not be mindful of their employees need).

You know how they talk about that 'zone' that keeps people from going out and seeking work (especially seniors), THAT right there, is a 'problem'.

But then too--- they probably WANT the seniors to BE retired so that younger folk can take that employment position.

I almost think that if you already have good medical (medicare {as it is NOW, before they 'strip it'?} + copay ins}, it would be better for a person to become their own temp/consultant, and charge high prices for your hire!!! so you can pay those required taxes....
(I have no idea 'what' would be required now.... I owned an incorporated business temporarily with my ex back in mid-1980s.)

Another HUGE problem that's been happening is that doctors used to abide by Medicare ceilings as far as what they can charge (called "Assignments").
.... NOW??? *alien*
The doc can send you bills for the portion OVER the "assignment" amount that Medicare and your copay will cover.

And I hate it that if you wind up in an emergency room, and have Medicare coverage, and say... the private anesthesiologist on staff does NOT ACCEPT your insurances, that you get caught paying that 'private doctors' extremely HEFTY costs.

OR!!! even blood labs associated with them. Some places draw your blood, and the company they 'choose' to send your sample to, for 'analysis', is NOT frickin' COVERED by your insurances????? wha??????
This should NEVER be allowed.

I think it should be REQUIRED that "the HOSPITAL/clinic/practice" ITSELF are RESPONSIBLE for seeing that EVERY health provider services it contracts with ACCEPTS every array and variety of insurances that the MAIN BUSINESS (Hospital,etc) opens client-doors too.

I think it's HORRIFIC how hospitals are not COORDINATED 'under their own roof'.... NOT taking 'responsibility' for the contracts THEY make with health service vendors/providers.

Patients right now come in completely "blind" to them.

AND!!!, .... You need to bring your own LAWYER to read the MANY CONTRACTS they basically "force" you to sign WITHOUT understanding what it is you are 'agreeing' to!!!
**oh, wait a minute, I'm having another heart-stabbing-cramp-- now, you want me to sign wha??????*

If you're coming in sick and at a disadvantaged moment, this should NOT BE an added pressure or weight on the consumer OR their family!!!!

*steps off her soap-box!!*

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teasel
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posted July 10, 2017 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't step off your soapbox!! Everyone else is on one around here.

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teasel
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posted July 10, 2017 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://twitter.com/robdelaney/status/884375076212285441

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BlueRoamer
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posted July 11, 2017 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Mirage! I may run for local office actually at some point. Right now I'm focused on some other area, but I will probably be picking up some advocacy for our broken prison system and running with that. If you've ever worked in a prison you'll realize the US really has no right in lecturing other countries about humanitarian issues until we fix this problem.

Keep fighting the good fight mirage!

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