posted December 05, 2010 06:06 AM            

Now, I am in the next stage of trying to be more real with the deep well of stuff that is inside
I have a whole mess of "bad",inside, like Chinese food too mixed up

Last night, I got angry at someone and freaked out that the person would not like me anymore lol

I have to force myself to be more real at this next stage.
There are so many parts of me that I find unacceptable.
Anger is just one.
However,I am gonna force myself to be "real" about it as well as real about the other emotions/passions swirling inside.

posted December 05, 2010 11:13 AM            

Wow, this was actually VERY perceptive, and I agree 100%...

posted December 07, 2010 07:20 AM            

Taurus in the 7th house and Venus in the 7th house suggests you might look for a sensual, sexual and attractive partner but you might want these qualities to be exclusive to your partner not cultivate it or own it in yourself.

posted December 07, 2010 08:46 AM            

I have an 8th house stellium--Gem Sun,Gem Merc and Cancer moon.
The Gem Sun and Merc trine Neptune in the 12 house.
I have Pluto conjunct the MC which sextiles the Sun and Merc.
I have no squares,except a generational one and no oppositions.
I know you asked about Moon, Mars and Saturn

My Moon is almost unaspected( 8 degree conjunction with Mars)
It FEELS unaspected ,to me, in many ways.
I feel very fragile but ,perhaps, it is not innate but just life circumstances ,say,for the past few decades

Mars has good aspects--a trine to Saturn in the 1st house.
Saturn is conjunct the ASC but has the trine with Mars.
I am not including Quincunxs and other more minor aspects. I would have to check for those.

I feel that my moon is a key in my problems.
I need to overcome the fragile feeling,I think.

Please, tell me what you think and AGAIN, Thank you!!!!

posted December 07, 2010 11:43 PM            

Not to assume, but it seems you're afraid of the aggressiveness as you're a sensitive. Scorpio/Pluto tends to hold on and then erupt, Taurus your opposite from what I've seen doesnt erupt, they are forward with what theyre experiencing, in many ways, yes their anger can be like an earthquake if very riled, but it's usually about a cause that invokes their passion. If I remember correctly you have Cancer Mars, and I'm thinking back on others I know with that placement and their struggle is similar.

I think healthy assertion and self respect (and also self knowledge) can go a very long way toward dealing with overwhelming anger. From what I've seen people either didn't grow up in a home where they were taught about healthy assertion, or (and I see this a lot) they get caught up with still being the child whose needs were frustrated time and again and now as an adult are still acting in the same manner, and their action is a reaction, it's not proactive. I get stuck in this mold too sometimes so I get it. And for me staying clear of my objectives and what is meaningful to me alleviates a lot of that. Another one is to pick my battles, if you're a Plutonian you get this Some things are just not worth your energy and some people will never get what you want to tell them no matter how badly you want them to. I read over the thread that was locked and you mentioned about needing to feel that the message is coming from someone who cares, and that is so relevant, because the rest of it is just noise.
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And I just wanted to comment on the astrology of a 7th house Taurus for a Scorpio Riser,

The 7th for Scorpio is a security-based need, Scorpio rising needs that safe container that a Taurus energy person could provide to feel they can let out their energy. Ami you saw what I wrote on astro 2.0 about Scorpio Suns and you commented, this is basically the same idea. Taurus is stubborn but they don't leave, they stay and weather the storm, and this gives security to the painfully sensitive and deep feeling Scorp riser, who needs loyalty & a place to just be and feel what they're feeling, because it can get to be overwhelming, and when it overwhelms they start to feel as if they're losing control and Scorp rising loves control.

But in keeping with the 7th it's also a house of projection. When we fall in love we only see the image of ourselves as reflected in another. If you can fall in love with this trait in another, and this goes for anyone's 7th (or its ruler), "Can you be strong enough to fall in love with that image in yourself." For Scorp rising, can you own your own home and cultivate self worth, hard earned, and do it just for you. Can you stay in a safe place and weather your own storm and come out OK on the other side, or are you always looking for that earthy container. When you start embodying that image it looses it's fascination and you are more centered in yourself, if you don't it holds sway and controls you because you feel as if you need it to be whole.

I don't believe h7, etc. is ever completely owned, but we can work a very long way in acquiring it and navigating away from some of its downfalls.
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Also,
Have you heard of the author David Richo? He has a title 'How to Be an Adult: A Handbook for Psychological and Spiritual Integration' -- it's VERY DEEP and I think you'd love it really cos you can delve in there and you're open to change. A lot of people can't as it speaks too many truths. It's a small book but it takes some time to get through as it's so powerful. I recommend it to you because you're open, psychologically oriented, spiritually aware. Despite the seemingly offensive title, I would not recommend this to someone who I didn't hold in good esteem.

Here's a review from LibraryJournal,

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Richo uses the metaphor of the heroic journey to describe the process toward psychological and spiritual maturity. First he discusses "personal work" and the three challenges to adulthood: fear, anger, and guilt, as well as the self-esteem that comes from meeting those challenges. Then he discusses relationships and the dual problem of maintaining personal boundaries and establishing appropriate intimacy. Finally, he discusses the techniques of integration: flexibility, befriending the shadow, using dreams, and developing spirituality through openness to the self and unconditional love. This guide contains useful quotations, summary reflections, and affirmations, as well as other techniques that give concrete advice on the process of growth.

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I can't get enough of Jung!

posted December 08, 2010 03:01 AM            

Ami I share with you..
Pluto influence
Pluto is in my first house...I'm owning it

But my Moon is the same as yours ....a nice trine to Saturn
and sextile to Mars

The thing about Saturn/Moon aspects in a natal is that even though it's an easy aspect , the energies are in conflict so it is NOT an easy aspect to live with.

posted December 08, 2010 04:07 AM            

I have been numb for a long time as you all know.
In that state of numb, I never ventured out with any state that was not scripted or "perfect".
By perfect, I mean, I lived a robotic life.
I never got dirty with the types of things I have gotten dirty with here.
By dirty, I am sure you know I mean"flawed", looking "dumb", ridiculous,etc---in a variety of ways
My point is that because I was so programmed and rigid, I NEVER had anyone comfort me either when I fell cuz I never fell.
I never soared and I never fell.

I feel different ,now. I gave up my basic faith in humanity,last night,in some deep way.
I got a little harder, which I should, but not TOO hard.
Maybe, that is everyone's balance.
I bet it is.
Thank you,Lonake, Peace Angel , Quinnie and AG for your words, your wisdom. I can receive it in the spirit in which it was given i.e.LOVE

PS You are a stand up kind of Girl, Abs. Thank you.
I would want you next to me in a foxhole, too.
You got character. I admire that and aspire to that!