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Ami Anne
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posted December 09, 2010 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1.Go with your gut
Learn to trust your gut.
This would prolly be Pluto.
Pluto seems to be everything

Add things that make a self actualized person, in your book.

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posted December 09, 2010 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BearsArcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to Maslow:

Abraham Maslow developed a theory of personality that has influenced a number of different fields, including education. This wide influence is due in part to the high level of practicality of Maslow's theory. This theory accurately describes many realities of personal experiences. Many people find they can understand what Maslow says. They can recognize some features of their experience or behavior which is true and identifiable but which they have never put into words.
Maslow is a humanistic psychologist. Humanists do not believe that human beings are pushed and pulled by mechanical forces, either of stimuli and reinforcements (behaviorism) or of unconscious instinctual impulses (psychoanalysis). Humanists focus upon potentials. They believe that humans strive for an upper level of capabilities. Humans seek the frontiers of creativity, the highest reaches of consciousness and wisdom. This has been labeled "fully functioning person", "healthy personality", or as Maslow calls this level, "self-actualizing person."

Maslow has set up a hierarchic theory of needs. All of his basic needs are instinctoid, equivalent of instincts in animals. Humans start with a very weak disposition that is then fashioned fully as the person grows. If the environment is right, people will grow straight and beautiful, actualizing the potentials they have inherited. If the environment is not "right" (and mostly it is not) they will not grow tall and straight and beautiful.

Maslow has set up a hierarchy of five levels of basic needs. Beyond these needs, higher levels of needs exist. These include needs for understanding, esthetic appreciation and purely spiritual needs. In the levels of the five basic needs, the person does not feel the second need until the demands of the first have been satisfied, nor the third until the second has been satisfied, and so on. Maslow's basic needs are as follows:

Physiological Needs
These are biological needs. They consist of needs for oxygen, food, water, and a relatively constant body temperature. They are the strongest needs because if a person were deprived of all needs, the physiological ones would come first in the person's search for satisfaction.

Safety Needs
When all physiological needs are satisfied and are no longer controlling thoughts and behaviors, the needs for security can become active. Adults have little awareness of their security needs except in times of emergency or periods of disorganization in the social structure (such as widespread rioting). Children often display the signs of insecurity and the need to be safe.

Needs of Love, Affection and Belongingness
When the needs for safety and for physiological well-being are satisfied, the next class of needs for love, affection and belongingness can emerge. Maslow states that people seek to overcome feelings of loneliness and alienation. This involves both giving and receiving love, affection and the sense of belonging.

Needs for Esteem
When the first three classes of needs are satisfied, the needs for esteem can become dominant. These involve needs for both self-esteem and for the esteem a person gets from others. Humans have a need for a stable, firmly based, high level of self-respect, and respect from others. When these needs are satisfied, the person feels self-confident and valuable as a person in the world. When these needs are frustrated, the person feels inferior, weak, helpless and worthless.

Needs for Self-Actualization
When all of the foregoing needs are satisfied, then and only then are the needs for self-actualization activated. Maslow describes self-actualization as a person's need to be and do that which the person was "born to do." "A musician must make music, an artist must paint, and a poet must write." These needs make themselves felt in signs of restlessness. The person feels on edge, tense, lacking something, in short, restless. If a person is hungry, unsafe, not loved or accepted, or lacking self-esteem, it is very easy to know what the person is restless about. It is not always clear what a person wants when there is a need for self-actualization.
The hierarchic theory is often represented as a pyramid, with the larger, lower levels representing the lower needs, and the upper point representing the need for self-actualization. Maslow believes that the only reason that people would not move well in direction of self-actualization is because of hindrances placed in their way by society. He states that education is one of these hindrances. He recommends ways education can switch from its usual person-stunting tactics to person-growing approaches. Maslow states that educators should respond to the potential an individual has for growing into a self-actualizing person of his/her own kind. Ten points that educators should address are listed:

We should teach people to be authentic, to be aware of their inner selves and to hear their inner-feeling voices.
We should teach people to transcend their cultural conditioning and become world citizens.
We should help people discover their vocation in life, their calling, fate or destiny. This is especially focused on finding the right career and the right mate.
We should teach people that life is precious, that there is joy to be experienced in life, and if people are open to seeing the good and joyous in all kinds of situations, it makes life worth living.
We must accept the person as he or she is and help the person learn their inner nature. From real knowledge of aptitudes and limitations we can know what to build upon, what potentials are really there.
We must see that the person's basic needs are satisfied. This includes safety, belongingness, and esteem needs.
We should refreshen consciousness, teaching the person to appreciate beauty and the other good things in nature and in living.
We should teach people that controls are good, and complete abandon is bad. It takes control to improve the quality of life in all areas.
We should teach people to transcend the trifling problems and grapple with the serious problems in life. These include the problems of injustice, of pain, suffering, and death.
We must teach people to be good choosers. They must be given practice in making good choices.

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Astrologically speaking, I think it is when one understands the totality of their chart, how all the planets are working together in order to make a complete person that then uses that energy into putting positivity into the world.

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Ami Anne
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posted December 09, 2010 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for putting that up, Bear
I know I did not explain it .

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posted December 09, 2010 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would think of people such as Righteous Gentiles ,as they are called, who saved Jews and other people during the Nazi regime.

WHAT made them different than 90--95% of the population?

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posted December 09, 2010 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What made Schindler able to do what he did?
He was a "feeling" person.He was not shut down from himself.
He enjoyed the pleasures of life. They showed that about him.
I think one thing was that he COULD feel.
Many people are numb and cannot feel.
Hence, their internal compass does not work right.
I think you have to really FEEL what another person is going through in order to make a move to help.
If you are disconnected to yourself, you will be disconnected to others.


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posted December 09, 2010 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The one course in my whole undergrad that stuck with me was Social Psych.
I wanted to go on with it but all you could do was teach.
It seemed "real" not verbiage like so many of the Psych courses.

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posted December 09, 2010 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I never forgot the Milgrim experiment movie where 60--70% of the people shocked the guy to death cuz an authority told them to( an actor ,of course )

I, always, wanted to be one of the ones who would NOT shock him but you never know till you are tested.

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posted December 09, 2010 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ALWAYS 65-70% of the people shocked the guy to death .
The results were consistent no matter HOW many times they repeated the experiment.

Milgrim devised the experiment to try to see WHY the Germans went along with the Nazi's

I ,always remembered ,that movie ,even all these years ,later.
It was indelible on me.

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posted December 10, 2010 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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If you are disconnected to yourself, you will be disconnected to others.

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posted December 18, 2010 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got some more things to add ,here.
You have to be willing to lose people who will not let you be the best you you can be,to reach the highest places you can reach.
I have found there will always be people who will come by my side and lend me needed hands.

I try to give love.When, I am hurting,I will seek love others.
It has,always be there, to date.
I think that is the way it works.
Ultimately,you must look yourself in the mirror, I guess.
This person is the hardest person to know and to face.
Maybe, that is why we go outside of ourselves for answers

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If we manage to meet our pain and inner deep as an normal reaction on something and use it constructivt.. Tha pain could bring as a solution or.... If we not manage to meet the pain or our own fear how should we understand the normal/unnormal in the life. Pain are an normal sorrow reaction.

BearsArcher. Describe about control. Superego, the ego and the id are same important part which help us to be in control. Nothing works out good if the bad deep be out of control. People become damage if they wallow in the sorrow be in the pain and the deep to long. Many side effects. People be sick on this.

I think the maslows step are very good understandings and a great tools if we want to work out our life good. It's much work to get it good in the life.

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posted December 21, 2010 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Self-actualization is rare (a bit utopian).

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posted December 21, 2010 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 21, 2010 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You got a good point ,Randall.
Yes, perhaps,it is an aspiration not something you arrive at.
Randall, why are you soooo smart?
You put this kid to shame ,here

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posted December 21, 2010 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Self-actualized = enlightened maybe?

I was contemplating it being rare. I agree. I think many of the "gurus" such as Siddhartha (Buddha), Christ, Ghandi, MLK, etc. became self-actualized when they discovered their life's purpose.

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posted December 21, 2010 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not all that smart. I did study Maslow quite a bit in college, though. Kids need safety needs and physiological needs met first (especially food) before they can learn effectively and acquire the other needs (love and esteem). Self-actualization isn't a need as such, but it's more of a destination.

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Originally posted by Randall:
I'm not all that smart. I did study Maslow quite a bit in college, though. Kids need safety needs and physiological needs met first (especially food) before they can learn effectively and acquire the other needs (love and esteem). Self-actualization isn't a need as such, but it's more of a destination.

Wow, very true.

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posted December 21, 2010 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That I'm not all that smart?

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posted December 21, 2010 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall,

Haha... didn't even realize you could apply what I said THAT WAY! Trust a Capricorn with 5th house (leo) energy to find that

And, absolutely not. I think you are very smart.

And - HEY! Did ya realize that we need your account stuff (like name or email) to donate to the LindaLand Paypal account?

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posted December 21, 2010 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, Paypal won't allow me to set it up where account info is automatically filled in. The only way to do it that way is get a button that goes to a secure server. I prefer the banner. I figured anyone who wanted to donate would ask me for more info.

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posted December 21, 2010 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
May I have more info, please?

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posted December 21, 2010 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pay to the following e-mail: webmaster@linda-goodman.com

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posted December 22, 2010 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am really glad that banner for donations is up there,Randall.
What other place do we ,practically,live at and it asks nothing

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People contribute to Lindaland in many ways--by being here and reading, by posting and interacting, by answering questions and helping others, and by moderating--so no one ever has to feel like they should contribute monetarily. It's just there for anyone who wants to do so. And thanks, PS!

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posted December 25, 2010 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am on to the next step in my journey. I have a burning passion .
I want to get strong and have God use me for His purposes.
I need to get strong ,first,or I will be of little good to Him or anyone.
That is my goal,now.

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