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anongrl10
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posted January 14, 2012 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The right kind of man has BOTH the attraction factor AND the rest.

And by "attraction factor" I mean the good looks.

Yes, I'm one of those women who won't do "beer belly" "smell like an ash tray" kind of man. Even if you paid me to date him once.

BUT unlike men, women have this kind of emotional maturity that allows them to see through an average-looking person, recognize something else (called "attraction" or chemistry) and perhaps -if it's strong enough- go for it. Sure, there are men like that too, but the average Joe won't think about inner beauty first.

In my opinion, it's a myth that women don't pay attention to looks. It could have been true in older generations when women would marry through arranged marriage or just to have kids and/or safety, but nowadays women have more options. It still is important that the "pretty boy" also can provide a safe home for the forthcoming children, and women are created by nature to think of children (regardless of whether they indeed have them or not - it's called "nesting") but looks or at least attraction certainly factors in.

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posted January 14, 2012 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Funny. I just saw that I have responded on this string twice!

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posted January 14, 2012 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1-scorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not into looks so much. I like personality.

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posted January 15, 2012 03:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm more of a Clark Kent girl, rather than Superman. I don't need to be "saved."

Anyway, it's a bit absurd to say that THIS IS WHAT ALL WOMEN ARE LOOKING FOR. Because not all women are alike and many women may actually have more in common with stereotypical men than stereotypical women. Articles like this really annoy me lol.

Honestly, I like attractive men. I don't even consider guys dateable if they're not attractive. I tend to date up not down in terms of attractiveness. I don't mind being the less attractive partner in a relationship.

I also don't nest. I don't want kids really. I don't care if the dude works at a coffee shop. Guys with big careers and money tend to have different world views than me anyway. Corporate slaves are unattractive to me for a lot of reasons. Idk.

I have a pretty solid type when it comes to guys and its skinny (alcohol bloat is an automatic no), nice faces, hair and "sexual auras." I already have a wandering eye, I can't date someone I'm not attracted to physically for practical reasons.

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posted January 18, 2012 04:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Libra sun here, with Venus in Scorpio and Mars in Capricorn

Personally, I think that it honestly depends on the woman. Some women do care about looks. Other women care about maybe a certain area, but are able to overlook others/don't care about other areas. Other women just don't really care at all and do look at personality more than looks. It also sometimes happens that someone who seems unappealing at first glance becomes more attractive as a woman gets to know him--his inner handsomeness starts to manifest on the outside. Obviously, he won't literally transform (unless he gives himself a makeover or otherwise changes his appearance), but his better features will start to stand out more and his inner attractiveness will start to really come out.

I also think that, while many people might have a 'type', (a) others have no type and (b) even those with a type will sometimes use this type as a set of guidelines and will be open to stepping outside of that box.

I personally couldn't see myself wanting to be with someone whom I found repulsive or disgusting, but, on the other hand, I honestly would prefer to be "the pretty one", if I were going to be in a relationship. That is, I'd want to be the more attractive of the two. Not sure why. Maybe Venus in Scorpio wanting to have the upper hand a little bit, at least in this area?

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posted January 18, 2012 05:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AcousticGod:

I think this extends to making life beautiful, you know? If life is great with the person you're with then it's not as much about the looks or whether your partner fits some mold, but rather it's that the union brings out the beauty both of you enjoy together. That's why nice guys can do just fine, because it's not always about some conception of masculinity. It's confidence.



well-put, AG!

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posted January 18, 2012 05:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 18, 2012 06:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crabbypatty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Take Starzy's post and put my name on it. My feelings are identical.

Randall, LMAO!!!! What goes into your look!! Ami's right, you're cute.

I also agree that for me, pretty boys (throw Brad Pitt and Rob Lowe into that category, but not Shia) don't do it. However, I have to admit that certain physical traits will make a man unattractive to me, and there's no need to list them here, but "too thin" is not my thing. All of my men have been the intellectual type, though, and that's really important for me. Plus the confidence factor. They have to walk like they know they've got it!

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posted January 18, 2012 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jesstar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
first time ive read this thread and i feel kinda stupid now lol i just started a "super hero " thread lastnight because i have a crush on a "nerd boy" anyhow to each their own . ive known enough women in my life to know we all dont consider the same men attractive ,handsome or goregous. thats just silly. my lovers have been drop dead goregous in my eyes ,hence the instant attraction .yet not everyone sees them as i do ( thank goodness )

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posted January 18, 2012 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jesstar:
first time ive read this thread and i feel kinda stupid now lol i just started a "super hero " thread lastnight because i have a crush on a "nerd boy" anyhow to each their own . ive known enough women in my life to know we all dont consider the same men attractive ,handsome or goregous. thats just silly. my lovers have been drop dead goregous in my eyes ,hence the instant attraction .yet not everyone sees them as i do ( thank goodness )

I agree. It takes a(n informed, passionate, intelligent) talker to get to me

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posted January 18, 2012 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mockingbird:

I agree. It takes a(n informed, passionate, intelligent) talker to get to me


:yes indeed!

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posted January 18, 2012 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marina123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very inspiring and reminded me of a person who I feel is very charismatic.

She definitely can make people feel appreciated and should have no problems getting a guy with that.

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posted February 08, 2012 06:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Some guys make you feel really beautiful.
This is prolly the biggest thing to make any guy attractive to woman.
The woman feels beautiful around him.


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posted February 14, 2012 06:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me it's about the emotional connection.
He also has to be intellectually appealing.

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LEXX
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posted February 14, 2012 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is important to me:
1.
Intelligence
2.
Not paranoid
3.
Honest
4.
Non religious
5.
Ethical..no lying
6.
Non homophobic/non racist/non sexist
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Non military
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Non Republican

There is more but those are the basics.


Physical things:
1.
CLEANLINESS
2.
No drunks/druggies

After all that,
I do not really care.
If there is chemistry there is chemistry,
no matter the physical appearance.
I do however tend to avoid short haired men,
and men with southern American accents, because they scare me,
and were the types who raped, and abused me.
However,
I would not automatically say no go to a short hair, nor yes to a long hair.
It would depend on the overall person.

Perfection/beauty
is a nice perk,
but not a requirement.


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posted February 14, 2012 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My wife wouldn't even let me leave in the morning without a military style inspection! "You're not wearing that..." "That doesn't go with that..." "Oh get rid of that..." "When did you last shower? Last year?" lol

"Go shine your shoes" "Go iron your shirt again" "Your coat is wrinkled"

"Why aren't you wearing that?" "Yuck, you're wearing *that*??" "You are *wearing* that? Who are you 'doing' in the office?"

She's a Leo. Of course she cares an extreme amount about how I look! Looks are supremely important to her.

I virgorously deny being anything to look at, but she tells me that she wouldn't have dated me, let alone married me, if I didn't look pleasing to her. I'm far far from being eye candy!!

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posted May 26, 2012 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fairy22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No. 1 on my list

he's got to be extremely handsome!

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posted May 27, 2012 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's always the whole person that matters.

I went to a formal dance with a weird looking guy in college. Beforehand, I had told my friends that I was thinking of dating him, in spite of his looks. He was smart and funny and had good manners.

Well he showed up for the dance looking ridiculous. That was inconsiderate. Game over.

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posted May 27, 2012 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol Faith!

Yeah, appearance is important. I do not want to date someone I'd be embarrased to be seen with. And as sad as I am to admit this, I have strict nono's in this regard - teeth, hair and height. I've tried to look past them and I can't. Call me shallow but I cannot be attracted to that.

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posted May 27, 2012 04:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for depth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks don't matter to me. But that doesn't mean I'll put up with someone whose teeth shine like the Sun. The difference is choice vs. destiny, genetics or whatever you want to call it.

What matters to me,
Loyalty
Intelligence
Ambition
Hardwork
Humility
Honesty
Self love
And the most important of all is that he should deeply, widely & highly love me.

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posted May 27, 2012 06:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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But that doesn't mean I'll put up with someone whose teeth shine like the Sun.

Me neither. I didn't want to suggest that. I was trying to say that, in my case, even though I may have a great sympathy for a guy, as a person, looks can prevent me from crossing the border to lovers because I couldn't find myself attracted to a shorter guy that is bald and has pointy teeth, no matter how well we get along, how much he may think he loves me or even how much I would want to like him back. I have tried and couldn't do it. It is a shame and I dislike this about myself but I cannot change it, it's a visceral type of thing.

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posted May 27, 2012 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes. We do.

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posted May 27, 2012 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hera:
I couldn't find myself attracted to a shorter guy that is bald.

Are you sure it's the physical feature or could it instead be the lack of confidence men tend to feel over these features?

What about Seth Green? There are debates on his actual size (even Seth contradicts himself on this topic) but he's between 5' (152cm)-5'4 (160cm) doesn't seem to let it bother him and many women find him hot. In case you haven't seen him here is in Buffy the Vampire Slayer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_RayCxhaKI

And as for bald, there's Gunn in Angel and Robin Wood in Buffy, though granted I don't think they're naturally bald but rather shave their head. There's still Vin Diesel (for the women who prefer macho alphas) and Patrick Stewart (for those who prefer the sensitive men) and I think they're both naturally bald but not bothered by it. Does their self-confidence make a difference?

Conversely is it what OTHERS perceive? That is you might make an exception for the examples I listed because they're celebrities as your coolness factor would skyrocket while those you know would otherwise think you were "settling" if you got a short or bald guy who wasn't rich & famous (ie, in this case it's not the physical feature nor the issue of confidence in the man).

Unfortunately I'm demisexual so I can't say just how sexy I find these examples...though I think they all look awesome and even without their fame I'd happily have any of them as escorts (even if Seth is smaller than me).

I'd be interested in hearing from anyone else as well, especially as I think it's relevant to this thread.

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posted May 27, 2012 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Are you sure it's the physical feature or could it instead be the lack of confidence men tend to feel over these features?

It might be, yes. But I do find these physical features most unappealing from other features generally considered unappealing. I have dated short. I have dated bald (he wasn't to begin with, just a lot of testosterone from Mars in Scorpio, I suppose... have seen MIS get bald in a few cases). It made me uncomfortable, not just because of others' opinions. I have dated overweight and didn't have any sort of problem with it at all. I also find long hair in men unappealing for some reason and wouldn't date them.
Confidence is indeed a great factor. I am Aries Mars, ofc I like confident alphas. Perhaps it's the features that don't strike me as alphas that I am not attracted to. I don't know.

From the guys you listed, I only find Seth attractive and I still don't know if I would date him even though he's famous. It's also the fact that he makes a good couple with Willow, who is also on the smaller frame. I am not. Nice to see a Buffy/Angel fan though!

I am not saying I wouldn't give a guy a chance at all. I did say I dated short and bald. But it is not what I want, not what I *really* want. It took me quite a while to get here and stop delluding myself that looks are not important. They are. I am judged for my looks and I judge others for theirs. And why would I go into something half way, it will only go badly. I can stay friends with them instead of complicating both our lives with something that I know will never work because I won't enter it wholeheartedly.

I have Leo intercepted in my 7H and I don't want a man I'd be embarrased to be seen with. I'd rather stay single for the rest of my life than settle. It would only make me unhappy.

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posted May 28, 2012 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for depth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm cool with long haired & bald guys. But when it comes to other things, there's a lot of confusion.

Overweight :
I'd a crush on an overweight guy.
I turned down an overweight guy. This fellow was a rich & influential alpha male, yet failed to impress.

Skinny :
The only guy I was close to falling in love with was a skinny Virgo.
I'd issues with another guy because I found him too thin.(this fellow's heavier than the previous one)

Short :
An ex was short & I didn't care much.
Another ex was short but that HURT my ego!

I'm very particular about teeth!

The Virgo was a super sensitive, shy thing. Whereas every other guy is an alpha male. So I don't even know whether it's their personalities or looks that I found unappealing.


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