posted May 28, 2012 11:10 AM            

I've gone out with a woman as much as four inches taller than I am when she was in three inch heels. She's 6'1" without any shoes. I'm just 5'10" but I'm an Asian. I didn't care. She was a beautiful Swede and even more stunning in an evening gown. She didn't care either. Slap a fine suit on a pig and a pig looks sharp. Lol. I'm used to being stared at constantly. That's part of my life.

posted May 29, 2012 04:59 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I think its bogus how there's the stereotype that men are the only ones shallow when it comes to looks. Just watch how women go GaGa over the pretty boys, OMG! He is so hot! I have had women call me ugly to my face, isn't that kind of shallow? Now I know I ain't no Calvin Klein model but I'm not ugly either. But to answer the question I think looks matter to an extent for both genders, but men take all the crap for it.

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Point taken. But at least you're not judged primarily by your looks by both genders as women are, aren't pushed to spend a lot more money than you do just to not be judged too harshly unless you're a metrosexual or pretty boy like Bieber (in which case you're more likely to be judged harshly than favorably by both genders), don't have to stress over what to wear or your hair so much (again, unless metrosexual), are much less likely to feel despair when looking at your reflection, and best of all you're not expected to go through life 20 pounds underweight.

posted May 29, 2012 07:08 AM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Slap a fine suit on a pig and a pig looks sharp. Lol.

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posted May 29, 2012 02:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Reminds me of Coco Chanel saying that there are no ugly women, just lazy women.

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On the other hand, in "Delirious," Eddie Murphy said that you don't have to look good. Just sing.

"There's somethin' about singing, that is the business! You sing, women go crazy!"

Evidence: Mick Jagger (the text is hilarious but has far too much profanity)

posted May 29, 2012 02:16 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
On the other hand, in "Delirious," Eddie Murphy said that you don't have to look good. Just sing.

"There's somethin' about singing, that is the business! You sing, women go crazy!"

Evidence: Mick Jagger (the text is hilarious but has far too much profanity)

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Eddie_Murphy

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posted May 29, 2012 11:16 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Point taken. But at least you're not judged primarily by your looks by both genders as women are, aren't pushed to spend a lot more money than you do just to not be judged too harshly unless you're a metrosexual or pretty boy like Bieber (in which case you're more likely to be judged harshly than favorably by both genders), don't have to stress over what to wear or your hair so much (again, unless metrosexual), are much less likely to feel despair when looking at your reflection, and best of all you're not expected to go through life 20 pounds underweight.

ETA: I have to add that visual porn is directed at male audiences for a reason so I think it's safe to say that looks are more important to men than women (that's not to say looks don't matter to women, just they're less a priority, or at the very least more is required).

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posted May 30, 2012 12:22 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
a lot of women only go for the metrosexual guys who get manicures and waxes and lay in tanning beds.I don't get the appeal of effeminate men that women go crazy about.if you want a girly man why not just find a woman lol jk, but seriously I don't get it.

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They don't. Here in the urban areas of California they can find places that accept them (typically among those with money to burn because it costs to do all that) but for the most part the fashion industry's attempt to do to men what the smoking industry did to women decades ago (seize the gender that has mostly ignored them) has largely failed.

I thought you were in the South? I grew up in East Texas (technically part of the South and where I was at wave more Dixie flags than US flags, and I think that was even more true when I visited last summer than it was before) and no way would a guy be caught as a metrosexual. Maybe it's different in the big cities now since I haven't been in Houston since 2004 but I'd be surprised (despite that it's a cosmopolitan city even when compared to the big cities in California which is why I'm willing to cautiously believe metrosexuals have a place to fit in there rather than standing out like freaks) but overall I'm very surprised by your assertion and would be even more surprised if cities like Atlanta had a large number of metrosexuals.

Now it's true that celebrities get a pass. It's like how country singers can get away with long hair but a fan who grows his hair is probably going to suffer for it and may even get a forced haircut. I've been told that looking feminine in the 80s was a bad idea for guys, especially among metal heads, despite that so many metal musicians spent more time on their makeup and hair (and some, even Bret Michaels, looked almost like drag queens back then) than modern metrosexuals. Same thing when people like Bieber pretty themselves up, he's a celebrity so he's allowed, but I bet girls make fun of guys that imitate him (unless he's got a really hot car and a lot of money he's willing to spend on her...maybe). I suppose that's just showmanship.

And even so Bieber is still soundly mocked by the public. Take yesterday's example of how people responded to the idea that Bieber "roughed up" a photographer (scroll down to the comments):

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/justin-bieber-wanted-questioning-scuffle-050432260.html

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During the scuffle, Bieber's hair was injured.

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The photographer would be better off claiming Selena did it.

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Send in the girl scouts, let's catch this fugitive.

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All in all I don't see the love for metrosexuals that you see. Heck, even South Park did an episode mocking them (I'm not sure if my favorite part was the "crab people!" scene as they chant while explaining how & why they're behind the fad or Mr. Garrison, a frustrated gay guy who can't tell the gays from straights anymore, shouting at a metrosexual, "Those shoes say you like to take it up the butt!" )

posted May 30, 2012 03:34 AM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
The men also have to have self confidence, and also not over confidence so as to be obnoxious.

I've gone out with a woman as much as four inches taller than I am when she was in three inch heels. She's 6'1" without any shoes. I'm just 5'10" but I'm an Asian. I didn't care. She was a beautiful Swede and even more stunning in an evening gown. She didn't care either. Slap a fine suit on a pig and a pig looks sharp. Lol. I'm used to being stared at constantly. That's part of my life.

It's all about how the man carries himself.

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'It's all about how the man carries himself'
So true, you look past the appearance and see the spark of the person.

My partner is a head smaller than me, it makes no difference to us, we do get the stares and remarks at times, i laugh about that, they are conditioned, be it genetical, cosmetical or magazinal. Love finds a way...if you let it...

posted May 30, 2012 05:28 AM            

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Exactly a lot of women only go for the metrosexual guys who get manicures and waxes and lay in tanning beds.

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posted May 31, 2012 11:20 AM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
The men also have to have self confidence, and also not over confidence so as to be obnoxious.

It's all about how the man carries himself.

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Very true. I agree tat confidence is the deciding factor, plus a man with a plan is so yummy.. drools.

posted May 31, 2012 03:30 PM            

I tend to stun people who with I end up seriously dating. Im more about the insides.

I have things I'd PREFER in an ideal world like them being taller than me - I'm 5'9" but I have dated people just around my height or slightly shorter regardless just bc I've felt strongly. Ive liked thin guys, chubby guys, tall, short, 7 years older - 1 year younger. My type is pretty much that I don't have one. Different social scenes. I'm not shallow. I am, however, hard on myself.

The most important thing for me from a man is honesty and trust. Probably all my fixed signs.

posted June 16, 2012 09:22 AM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
My wife wouldn't even let me leave in the morning without a military style inspection! "You're not wearing that..." "That doesn't go with that..." "Oh get rid of that..." "When did you last shower? Last year?" lol

"Go shine your shoes" "Go iron your shirt again" "Your coat is wrinkled"

"Why aren't you wearing that?" "Yuck, you're wearing *that*??" "You are *wearing* that? Who are you 'doing' in the office?"

She's a Leo. Of course she cares an extreme amount about how I look! [b]Looks are supremely important to her.

I virgorously deny being anything to look at, but she tells me that she wouldn't have dated me, let alone married me, if I didn't look pleasing to her. I'm far far from being eye candy!![/B]

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posted June 16, 2012 10:10 AM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Point taken. But at least you're not judged primarily by your looks by both genders as women are, aren't pushed to spend a lot more money than you do just to not be judged too harshly unless you're a metrosexual or pretty boy like Bieber (in which case you're more likely to be judged harshly than favorably by both genders), don't have to stress over what to wear or your hair so much (again, unless metrosexual), are much less likely to feel despair when looking at your reflection, and best of all you're not expected to go through life 20 pounds underweight.

ETA: I have to add that visual porn is directed at male audiences for a reason so I think it's safe to say that looks are more important to men than women (that's not to say looks don't matter to women, just they're less a priority, or at the very least more is required).

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