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Randall
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posted January 22, 2011 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AIDS is a serious topic. But there are some facts that haven't been made public (but easily verifiable) that I would like to share. Prepare to be shocked.

Let's start with the Merck Manual. This is the bible for the health care profession. For many decades prior to the AIDS discovery, there was a listing for IDS (Immuno Deficiency Syndrome). IDS had one cause: various cytotoxic drugs (drugs that are highly toxic to cells). This list was increased over the years. In the 60s, an experimental drug called AZT was shelved, because it was too toxic for cancer patients. The Merck Manual listed it as a cause of IDS. Does anyone see yet where I'm heading with this?

The swine flu isn't something new. It was a hoax from the 70s created by a Dr. Gallo. President Ford wanted everyone vaccinated, and the vaccine killed far more people than the so-called disease, so Dr. Gallo was discredited and shunned for two decades...until he "discovered" HIV. Actually, he stole the HIV hypothesis from the Pasteur Institute in France. So, in the 80s, everyone jumped on the HIV bandwagon. The CDC reclassified IDS as GRID (Gay Related Immuno Deficiency), which resulted in a public outcry, so they then just took IDS and added an "A" for acquired. Gays were the largest demographic affected by IDS at the time (they were experimenting with a highly cytotoxic drug called "poppers" to enhance sexual pleasure). The CDC removed all of the cytotoxic drugs as the cause in the Merck Manual and replaced them with one cause: HIV. AZT was a drug sitting in warehouses waiting for a disease. AZT destroys the immune system from within. What happens to a healthy person who takes AZT (presumably being HIV positive)? They die. Nowadays, we have less toxic drugs, so AIDs patients are managing the disease and living.

So, what is HIV? According to Dr. Duesberg (a professor of virology at Berkley University and considered the world's most eminent virologist), it is a harmless retrovirus. Retroviruses are too weak to cause anything (except for maybe flulike symptoms in immune-compromised individuals). Even the CDC admits now that AIDS is not caused by HIV (rarely does anyone hear about that, though). They say that HIV plus other factors in unison cause AIDS, and that HIV alone is not a cause. Another thing that isn't said openly to the public is that the World Health Organization (WHO) still considers AIDS to be a gay disease. The WHO says that AIDS infects mainly homosexuals, except in Africa (where it is a heterosexual disease). Now, let me reiterate that I'm not saying HIV is harmless or that something else causes AIDS or that it is a gay disease. I am merely presenting facts as to the origin of AIDS and what Duesberg (a person far more qualified than I) teaches in his virology class and also what both the CDC and the WHO state. I have presented the verifiable facts only. IDS was caused by cytotoxic drugs for decades before HIV was known. It was reclassified as AIDS, and those drugs were removed as causes and replaced with HIV. AZT was listed as one of the drugs causing IDS. People were found HIV positive and then prescribed AZT. People died.

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posted January 22, 2011 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall
I saw a show on TV that said the Aid's virus was small enough to go through the pores of condoms.
What do you think?

PS--All condoms of the various materials

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posted January 22, 2011 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, a virus is about a thousand times smaller than a cell. It consists of fragments of genetic material in a protein shell. So, a condom can protect against pregnancy (sperm are rather large) and bacteria. But thinking logically, it would rationally seem that we would have far more infections in the world if it were true that viruses could so easily pass through the pores.

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posted January 22, 2011 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I read statistics on this disease, I discovered that the chances of a male to female infection with unprotected sex was rather small... contrasted against the chances of a virus passing through a latex condom - EVEN SMALLER.

Considering the structure of the condom has not been compromised, the chances of the hiv virus passing through a condom are very small, and definitely MUCH smaller than the chances of contracting HIV through unprotected sex.

The only sure protection against STD's is sexual abstinence (in every way, including oral sex)... however, condoms are THE BEST thing one can do to protect themselves from infection, without abstaining.

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posted January 22, 2011 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just would like to again play Devil's advocate and post the story of Christine Maggorie, a HIV-positive activist who promoted the view that HIV is not the cause of AIDS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Maggiore
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-christine-maggiore30-2008dec30,0,7407966.story

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posted January 22, 2011 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for matt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Idk.

Genetic researchers have genetically traced HIV-1 and HIV-2, indicating that HIV was transferred to humans from primates around the back end of the 19th century in Africa.

Azidothymidine(AZT) also known as Zidovudine (INN) is on WHO's 'essential drug list'(!!!!) in primary care for treatment in HIV/AIDS(!), as this compound slows down the replication of the HIV virus in the human cell. Only at high concentrations can lead to side effects, however AZT doesn't cause AIDS or IDS(!), as AZT's mechanism is to inhibit reverse transcriptase of the HIV virus, and not the cells that are involved in the human immune system.

Look on the revise list of essential medicines on the WHO's website.

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AidsTruth:
http://www.aidstruth.org/news/2009/christine-maggiore-died-aids

AIDS Denialists Who Have Died

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A partial list of HIV-positive HIV/AIDS denialists who have died from conditions, and with symptoms, characteristic of AIDS None of the scientists and journalists who are the most prominent promoters of HIV denialist theories in the mainstream and "independent" media have reported testing positive for HIV; the issue of the cause and treatment of HIV/AIDS is a purely academic matter for those who drive the denialist movement. But a number of people diagnosed with HIV infection – people whose lives are in the balance – have become activists in the "AIDS dissident" movement. Tragically, many of these individuals have died with symptoms and/or infectious illnesses that are characteristic of AIDS. Their friends in the denialist movement have in every instance insisted that HIV had nothing to do with their deaths. The medical records of dead denialists are, of course, not publicly available, but obituaries and reports of their untimely deaths almost always include descriptions of symptoms and conditions that are typical of late-stage HIV disease and extremely rare in uninfected people, along with statements attributing their deaths to "unknown causes," to secret illicit drug use, and to immune system damage caused by the "stress" of supporting the unpopular cause of AIDS denialism. It's worth noting that none of the HIV-negative denialists have died from these ailments. The numbers and stories speak for themselves, and we hope that readers who test positive for HIV will heed the warning in these deaths. What is the likelihood that so many individuals would die with AIDS-like symptoms at relatively young ages without their HIV infection playing the causative role?

Many, many other people with HIV have died of AIDS-related causes because denialist disinformation persuaded them (or their parents or their government) that antiretroviral treatment, and not the virus, was the danger to their health. (AIDStruth.org has not included here the names of perinatally infected HIV+ children who have died from HIV/AIDS because their denialist parents chose not to seek appropriate medical care for them.) The linked article by Bruce Mirken, Bad science: They once thought HIV was harmless. Now, they say, AIDS has forced them to reconsider, from the San Francisco Bay Guardian, February 2, 2000, reveals that many HIV+ denialists who have no public visibility have died from AIDS, and that many more see the error of their thinking and when they start getting sick and can no longer sustain the denialist fantasy. These individuals are regularly attacked by denialists verbally, in the press, and on the internet when they go on ARVs and their health improves.

AIDStruth.org is continuing to compile this list. Please send names of denialists who have died from HIV disease and supporting documentation to deathbydenial@earthlink.net for review and posting.

Ken Anderlini

Ken Anderlini was a co-moderator of the "AIDS Myth Exposed" message board on MSN. Anderlini died in April of 2007. Denialist David Crowe from the "Alberta Reappraising AIDS Society" wrote an announcement of his death, saying: "Over the past couple of years his health had declined rapidly with a strange neurological disease for which nobody could pinpoint the cause (except doctors who claimed it was HIV related, of course)."

http://spaces.live.com/editorial/en-us/render/msngroupsclosure.htm

Fela Anikulapo-Kuti

Fela Anikulapo-Kuti, the great Nigerian music star, "died in 1997 of a disease he claimed didn't exist, and certainly not in Africa: AIDS. No matter that Fela's older brother, Professor Olikoye Ransome-Kuti, had served as the country's health minister and launched Nigeria's much-lauded early AIDS program. . . . There was hardly an illness African herbs couldn't cure, Fela maintained, and he dismissed condoms as unnatural, unpleasurable, and a white plot to reduce the black birthrate. He believed, says Olikoye, that "all doctors were fabricating AIDS, including myself." Fela was 58.

(Mark Schoofs, "A Tale of Two Brothers Part 2: Fela Didn't Believe AIDS Existed. But then he died of the disease. His brother is still trying to convince Fela's fans that HIV is real." Village Voice, November 10 - 16, 1999.)

Michael Bellefountaine

A member of the denialist ACT UP/San Francisco, Michael Bellafontaine died on May 10, 2007. He was 41. His Bay Area Reporter obituary said that "According to Andrea Lindsay, a friend and fellow activist, Mr. Bellefountaine died of a sudden systemic infection, though the exact cause has not been determined."

http://ebar.com/obituaries/index.php?sec=ob&article=252

Sophie Brassard

Sophie Brassard, a Canadian, was the HIV-positive mother of two HIV-positive, perinatally-infected sons. Citing the influence of HEAL, Alive and Well, Duesberg and Mullis, she refused to allow her children access to medical care when the became ill and fled the country with them. She consequently lost custody and parental rights. She died of AIDS on September 16, 2002, at age 37.

http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000186.html

Ronnie Burk

Ronnie Burke was a member of the dissident group ACT UP/San Francisco (which has been denounced by other legitimate ACT UP groups). He died from AIDS in March of 2003 at the age of 47.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/06/09/DDGEAJ9IH61.DTL

Jerry Colinard

Jerry Colinard, a board member of San Diego HEAL, died on July 4, 2009, at the age of 55, of AIDS. His webpage recalls that “Jerry supported the HIV community and was honored by a San Diego agency, ‘Being Alive,’ for his commitment. However by 2001 he had rejected traditional Western drug centered HIV medicine. He referred to himself as an ‘AIDS dissident’ thereafter.”


Sylvie Cousseau

Sylvie Cousseau contributed to a list of testimonials from people who tested HIV positive but embraced AIDS denial and rejected HIV treatment. This list of testimonials features on several different websites, including HEAL Toronto and the personal web pages of Rudolf Werner, Professor of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology at the University of Miami:

http://molbio.med.miami.edu/HIV-Aids/stories.htm

http://healtoronto.com/testimonials.html

http://www.garynull.com/documents/Continuum/LustForLifeLeapOfFaith.htm

Sylvie Cousseau was the partner of Mark Griffiths. Sylvie died in 2001 at age 41. Cousseau's death was reported in postings to AIDS denial message boards in France.

Boyd Ed Graves

Boyd Graves was an HIV-positive lawyer who promoted the false view that HIV was developed by the US National Cancer Institute as part of a military programme to develop biological warfare agents for use against targeted communities. He found an NCI "flowchart" which he misinterpreted as demonstrating the existence of this programme, and initiated several unsuccessful lawsuits against the US government. While he believed that this manufactured HIV causes AIDS, he questioned the science of antiretroviral therapy and instead promoted as an "AIDS cure" a substance called "Tetracyl" or “Tetrasil” -- a silver compound with no known medical benefits and no evidence to support its use in HIV. According to an email circulated by his supporters he died in June 2009, apparently of AIDS, after several "Tetracyl" injections failed to reverse his illness. As far what we are aware he never took antiretrovirals.

Mark Griffiths

Mark Griffiths ran a denialist website called Altheal (along with a French version, Sidasante), until he died in October 2004. In the article linked below, the AIDS denialist Liam Scheff ponders the cause of his death, suggesting Griffiths may still have been using heroin (because he seemed a "bit groggy" sometimes); this is despite the fact that Griffiths had undergone successful recovery in the late 1980s. Scheff ultimately concluded that Griffiths died because he was abusing alcohol.
http://www.altheal.org/altheal/markmemorial.htm
Another associate, Emma Hollister, suggests Griffiths' death was related to a course of antibiotics taken several months before for dental work: http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/emma_holister/2005/01/07/aids_dissidence_movement _loses_a.htm

Robert Johnston

Robert Johnston was a co-founder of HEAL Toronto and a co-author of the self-described "rebuttal" of the Durban Declaration that was posted to HEAL Toronto's website in 2000. At the time, he wrote: "Robert Johnston is a co-founder of HEAL Toronto, and has been HIV-positive since 1985 yet has suffered no unusual illness since that time. He attributes his good health to not taking any anti-HIV medications and to not believing that his positive antibody test has much significance."

Johnston died three years later on April 3, 2003. As with all other similar cases, Johnston's colleagues claim his death was not caused by HIV infection. David Crowe wrote that he died of "liver failure completely unrelated to AIDS."

John Kirkham

John Kirkham, an HIV+ denialist who managed the altheal website, died of pneumonia in 2008. His friends attribute his death to having survived lymphoma, a difficult personal relationship, and a chilly, damp house.

Kelly Jon Landis

We regret to report that Kelly Jon Landis died December 3, 2007 in Santa Monica, CA, at age 39 after suffering for several months with lymphoma and other AIDS symptoms. Self-described as the "dissident saint," he was a health food fanatic and avid bicycle rider who avoided standard medical care and sought alternative therapies. He felt that simply leading a drug-free healthy lifestyle would protect him from disease.

Although a "dissident" himself, Kelly Jon Landis vocally opposed the homophobia rampant among HIV/AIDS denialists.

http://people.tribe.net/aca8f528-05d6-44fc-898e-1e64320fd60a

http://www.ldsfiles.com/link/?1030952187

Sandi Lenfestey

Sandi Lenfestey, a member of HEAL San Diego, died on January 11, 2009. She was 47, and had two children. To understand the real cost of denialism, see her young son’s shattering message to his mother.

Jack Levine

Jack Levine was a regular poster to the "Virusmyth" message board. When he became sick and began to question denialism, the other board members turned on him, which eventually led to the Virusmyth message board being taken permanently offline in order to hide the appalling record of what happened. Levine died from AIDS in March of 2002 at the age of 47.
http://www.thebody.com/cgi-bin/bbs/showthreaded.php?Cat=& Board=living&Number=41833&page=3&view=collapsed&sb=9&o=&vc=1

Raphael Lombardo

Raphael Lombardo was a gay man who believed Peter Duesberg's claims that HIV was harmless. Lombardo wrote to Duesberg on May 30, 1995, noting that he had never used any recreational drugs or pharmaceuticals and was not sick, despite testing HIV positive (the letter was titled "Life without AZT !"). Duesberg published the entire letter in his book "Inventing the AIDS Virus" and wrote of Lombardo: "His letter proves that true science does not depend on institutional authority." (The letter is posted at http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/pdazt.htm.)

Raphael Lombardo died of AIDS a little over a year later, on June 11, 1996. When asked about Lombardo's death, Duesberg wrote: "In hindsight, I think his letter was almost too good to be true. I am afraid now, he described the man he wanted to be [e.g. that he did not use recreational drugs] and his Italian family expected him to be, but not the one he really was. I think he died from Kaposi's." (Source: Email to Richard Jefferys from Peter Duesberg, Wednesday, April 05, 2006) When this correspondence was published on the internet, Duesberg was contacted by Raphael Lombardo's sister, Regina, who was incensed by Duesberg's claim that her brother had covertly used poppers or other recreational drugs (as Duesberg was implying). Duesberg wrote back to her and told her that she was wrong, too.

Peter Mokaba

Peter Makoba, a senior politician in South Africa's ruling party, the African National Congress, and a prominent denialist, died in 2002 at the age of 43 from AIDS-related pneumonia after a "long illness." He denied that he had AIDS and rejected antiretroviral drugs as poison.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/2002/jul/12/guardianobituaries.aids

Christine Maggiore

Christine Maggiore was an HIV-positive denialist who founded the "Alive&Well AIDS Alternatives" denialist organisation. She wrote and self-published the book What If Everything You Thought You Knew about AIDS Was Wrong? Her 3-year old daughter Eliza Jane Scovill died of AIDS-related pneumonia after Maggiore had refused to take medication to prevent mother-to-child transmission of HIV or to have the child tested for HIV. Christine Maggiore died at the age of 52 in December 2008. She died of AIDS. Read AIDSTruth's editorial on her death: Christine Maggiore's Death: Lessons from a Tragedy. (Note 2009-12-15: Maggiore's death certificate states that no autopsy was performed. However, a document by the discredited pathologist Mohammed Ali Al-Bayati recently published on denialist websites appears to be a secondary interpretation of an autopsy performed by Dr David Posey. The autopsy report has not been released, and the coroner's office apparently never notified that it took place. It is not known why Maggiore's family commissioned a private autopsy and then withheld the report and findings of the licensed pathologist who performed the autopsy. You can read more here.)

These articles provide further details on Maggiore and the death of her daughter:

The HIV Disbelievers: Christine Maggiore is a different kind of AIDS activist—one who tells people to forget safe sex and stop taking their lifesaving drugs.
A Mother's Denial, a Daughter's Death:"The HIV-positive mother of two laid out matter-of-factly why, even while pregnant, she hadn't taken HIV medications, and why she had never tested her children for the virus... Seven weeks later, Eliza Jane was dead."
A report on Eliza-Jane Scovill’s death, in rebuttal to that of Mohammed Al-Bayati
Coroner's Report regarding Eliza-Jane Scovill’s death

Marietta Ndziba

Marietta Ndziba was used by the vitamin salesman Matthias Rath to market multivitamins as an alternative to antiretroviral treatment. In a pamphlet distributed by Rath and his agents in Cape Town, South Africa in September 2005, she was quoted as saying that her CD4 count rose from 365 to 841 due to Rath's vitamins. She implied that these vitamins treated boils on her arm, her grey skin, diarrhoea and vomiting. She said "I just thank God that he brings vitamins here to South Africa to help our lives." As far as the South African AIDS activist organisation Treatment Action Campaign could ascertain Ndziba never took antiretrovirals. She died in about October 2005. One family member reportedly claimed that she died of a stress headache. Rath's vitamins clearly did not help Ndziba. She should have been treated by qualified doctors in the public health system, not Rath or his agents.

Astoundingly, a video recording of Ndziba claiming the benefits of Rath's vitamins continued to be available on the front page of Rath's South African website until January 2006. (Source: TAC)

David Pasquarelli

David Pasquarelli, a leader of the denialist group "ACT UP San Francisco" developed PCP, anemia, thrush, meningitis, mycobacterium and disseminated CMV before he died in March of 2004. He was 37.
http://www.davidpasquarelli.com
Casper G. Schmidt
Casper G. Schmidt was a psychiatrist who published "The Group-Fantasy Origins of AIDS" in the Journal of Psychohistory in 1984. The article, which claimed that AIDS was not a real disease but a product of "epidemic hysteria," is still regularly cited by AIDS denialists. Schmidt died from AIDS in 1994.

Tony Tompsett

Tony Tompsett wrote for the denialist newsletter Continuum from 1993 until just before his death in 1998 at age 39 from Kaposi's sarcoma, toxoplasmosis and possible pneumonia.
http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/cgi-bin/res.pl?keyword=Tony+Tompsett&offset=0

Huw Christie Williams

Huw Christie (Huw Christie Harry Williams) was an editor of Continuum, a long-running AIDS denialist newsletter from the UK that folded when all the editors died. Huw Christie developed Kaposi's sarcoma and died in August of 2001. He was 41.
http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/mbobituaryhc.htm
In an email, Peter Duesberg described Christie's death as follows: "Did you know Hugh* Christie? Also a gay friend of mine from London, filmmaker and editor of the very popular British gay-interested journal, Continuum. Christie campaigned actively against the health and AIDS hazards of poppers in Continuum. Like me, he was invited by Mbeki, to discuss the causes of AIDS in Africa in 2000. And a year or two later he passed away with Kaposi's, from long-term over-use/addiction to poppers!"* (Source: Email to Richard Jeffreys from Peter Duesberg, Wednesday, April 05, 2006. *Name misspelled and exclamation point in the original.)

Jody Wells

Jody Wells was the founder of the U.K. denialist newsletter Continuum. He had multiple bouts of PCP before he died in August of 1995.
http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/continuum/obituary.htm

Scott Zanetti

Scott Zanetti, Morristown NJ, died October 6, 2002 at age 52. Scott Zanetti is another contributor to the list of testimonials mentioned in the entry on Sylvie Cousseau, above. Zanetti also wrote to POZ magazine about being inspired by the writings of Celia Farber, and contributed to the "personal stories" on the HEAL San Diego website.
http://healtoronto.com/testimonials.html http://www.poz.com/articles/203_10274.shtml http://healsd.bravehost.com/scott.htm

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posted January 22, 2011 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting. Perhaps they engaged in high-risk behavior not related to HIV (drug use)? What about the people who are HIV positive who never contract full-blown AIDS? And what of all the people who have AIDS but are not HIV positive?
http://www.duesberg.com/

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posted January 22, 2011 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall,

Off subject a little, but you know what just dawned on me? Maybe this "age of discrimination and suspicion" with EVERYTHING - including religion, medicine, government, people, etc...

Is in some way part of the Internet and the wide spread access to information we have nowadays? Isn't it true that we're somewhat inundated with facts and viewpoints from all over the world, from virtually every corner - and all of this can be overwhelming?

I find that people are way more suspicious nowadays of issues like AIDS in part because people have access to widespread information, and so, are able to start questioning these issues in a larger way...

Just a thought.

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posted January 22, 2011 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Definitely.

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posted January 22, 2011 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for matt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could be that AIDS denialist manifested AIDS into there life?

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Although I'm not making any declarations about HIV, just an observation -

Wouldn't it be an absolute catastrophe if AIDS was a blanket diagnosis for people dying in Africa - when the true cause was immune deficiencies caused by malnutrition, parasitic infections, and other diseases...?

Who would know the difference, or care to know the difference for people in these countries who have such a lack of resources, and access to medical care...?

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posted January 22, 2011 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AIDS is a balloon acronym used to cover a wide range of diseases.

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posted January 22, 2011 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If *I*had AID's,I would get Dr Richard Shultz program at 1-800 HERB DOC.
The book "There are No Incurable Diseases " explains his program.
This for anyone with AID's or HIV reading this

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posted January 23, 2011 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There was a quote in the article,

"The WHO says that AIDS infects mainly homosexuals, except in Africa (where it is a heterosexual disease)."

Am I wrong in thinking that it is in the black population over any other group in the U.S.? That is the word that is continually being put out there, saying that mainly young black people are infected, disproportionately to other groups.

"People were found HIV positive and then prescribed AZT. People died."

Moreover the CDC killed people in the 80s because it left the blood supply untested (hemophiliacs, etc.).

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posted January 23, 2011 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Regarding the swine flu, they started to put the vaccination in the mix with the regular flu vaccine, this was last year, altho they could have started that earlier.
Maybe because there was a certain general backlash to the vaccine.
So if you got a flu shot recently (i haven't had one for years) then the swine flu vaccine was probably also in there.

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