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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 6085 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 25, 2011 08:15 AM
I am discovering another thing that happens when you are abused. Someone disconnects your anger switch. (For some people,it gets turned on all the time.For others ,it gets shut off) For me, my anger response got very muted. I felt guilt and shame when *I* got angry. I felt *I* was bad.------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. You must face,touch and feel the dregs of Nessus before you can grasp the pristine beauty of Neptune. Me IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 6085 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 25, 2011 08:18 AM
THIS IS THE PERFECT SET-UP FOR ANY TYPE OF ABUSE from simple bullying on. Your abuse will be to the DEGREE to which you shut off your anger switch. The person's anger switch has to have been messed with for them to be abused other than at gunpoint etc For someone who was allowed to have their anger, they fight back when they are violated. If you touch a cell with a probe, the cell moves out of the way. Life was made with certain life sustaining mechanisms. Anger is one of them If you feel you are so bad that you have no right to your anger,you may as well lie down and say "Hit me" ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. You must face,touch and feel the dregs of Nessus before you can grasp the pristine beauty of Neptune. Me IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 6085 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 25, 2011 08:23 AM
To heal,you must get your RIGHT to your anger,back. If someone violates you in any way,big or small,you must kick them back. ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. You must face,touch and feel the dregs of Nessus before you can grasp the pristine beauty of Neptune. Me IP: Logged |
coconutcancermoon Knowflake Posts: 483 From: A Place of Pure Love Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 25, 2011 08:26 AM
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Mblake81 Knowflake Posts: 717 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted February 05, 2011 05:04 AM
To heal,you must get your RIGHT to your anger,back. If someone violates you in any way,big or small,you must kick them back.To start with, yes. But remember no one likes a ******* . It is hard, but when you heal, remember the strongest person is the most kind. It takes more strength to be kind, than mean. IP: Logged |
rajji Knowflake Posts: 95 From: Hyderabad, A.P, India. Registered: Jan 2011
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posted February 05, 2011 06:14 AM
I guess it all depends upon the situation that one is in... And most often it is the person who is more Powerful who always wins... irrespective of whether he is right or wrong. And in some cases the person who is right and also powerful tends to let go of the other person inspite of being wrong because of his love or softcorner for the concerned individual..Anger can be debilitating and destructive to oneself and others. However if Injustice is inflicted upon one, anger is certainly justified. The expectation determines the degree of frustration and anger, because the 'The Way it Should Be' does not correspond to the 'The Way It Is'. But the ultimate path to healing can only be obtained through Forgiveness. IP: Logged |
Mblake81 Knowflake Posts: 717 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted February 05, 2011 07:06 AM
Yes, It is just challenging to get to that point, and really be that way through and through. When you hit rock bottom, that is a good place to start a foundation, to go up.
* It would be irresponsible of me to not mention, The challenge never stops. Once it is on, It is on.
What I am saying, When you become weary of the task, It will overwhelm you. Almost constant fight on some level. Balancing things out is the best way. - I am an extremist, I go from neutral, low, high, low, neutral... I have not been able to figure out the pattern, It is random and changes, Throwing me off guard all the time. I struggle to keep a balance (neutral), but I never have it for long. Back down into **** I go. Only to come back up, only to go back neutral. Sometimes. I am speaking from my own experience, I suppose metaphysically. I do not exactly mean this in a literal world translation. IP: Logged |
rajji Knowflake Posts: 95 From: Hyderabad, A.P, India. Registered: Jan 2011
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posted February 05, 2011 07:44 AM
Yes Blake...im in that never ending.. ultimate process of forgiving too...because im powerless to retaliate...and its very hard and challenging to forgive a wrongdoer... And i think if the wound is fresh the pain and anger associated with it is also high... this anger which is nothing but pain can only subside and diminish with TIME which i consider as the greatest factor.
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Mblake81 Knowflake Posts: 717 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted February 05, 2011 08:11 AM
Yes sir, it is.Time seems to be the factor for almost everything, Funny thing is, We created the idea of Time, as a measurement for our journey here. One example of people trying to understand what "here" is. You could not ask, "When did that happen?", If we, did not create the measurement. IP: Logged |
Mblake81 Knowflake Posts: 717 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted February 05, 2011 11:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9zxrIlFpCk Serenity lyrics Songwriters: Erna, Salvatore; Rombola;
As I sit here And slowly close my eyes I take another deep breath And feel the wind pass through my body I'm the one in your soul Reflecting in the light Protect the ones who hold you Cradling your inner child I need serenity In a place where I can hide I need serenity Nothing changes, days go by Where do we go when we just don't know And how do we relight the flame when it's cold? Why do we dream when our thoughts mean nothing And when will we learn to control? Tragic visions Slowly stole my life Tore away everything Cheating me out of my time
I'm the one who loves you No matter wrong or right And every day I hold you I hold you with my inner child I need serenity In a place where I can hide I need serenity Nothing changes, days go by Where do we go when we just don't know And how do we relight the flame when it's cold? Why do we dream when our thoughts mean nothing And when will we learn to control? IP: Logged |
pisces moon Knowflake Posts: 44 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted February 06, 2011 09:34 AM
Anger makes you weak. It takes away your clarity and your rationality and it makes you do things you regret-or should regret anyway.It's not anger that disallows disrespect, it's self respect. It's when you don't respect yourself that others can **** all over you and get away with it. The people who are ****** off are the ones who feel the need to tear others down in the many ways there are to accomplish that. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 6085 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 06, 2011 11:25 AM
Anger is a normal feeling when you are violated. The cell moves away when you touch it with a probe . Anger is what God gave us to keep us safe and to allow us to push away the people who violate us. You feel anger when your boundaries are violated. This is emotionally healthy. People could not live and survive without anger. If we were not supposed to have it,God would not have put it there. Anyway, the process of casting away what is not good for you and embracing what is is a life long learning process. I don't think anyone arrives. We ,all,do it in a flawed way,too. We shall be flawed until the day we die.Knowing THAT is it's own kind of wisdom,too.------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. You have to be strong enough to be gentle.Peace through strength,ALWAYS Me IP: Logged |
Mblake81 Knowflake Posts: 717 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted February 06, 2011 07:26 PM
Technically speaking, yes it is there to protect you.But that is only at the most base level. Pisces moon has the right "end" idea. No one is wrong. "Naturally" speaking, pisces is peaceful, It is the end. Nothing left to prove. # Moon in the Twelfth House # Moon in Virgo # Sun Square Moon # Moon Square Uranus # Moon Trine Venus # Mars in the Twelfth House # Mars in Virgo # Mars Conjunct Ascendant # Mars Square Midheaven # Mars Square Neptune # Venus Trine Mars # Mercury Sextile Mars IP: Logged |
Mblake81 Knowflake Posts: 717 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted February 07, 2011 11:02 AM
Ami,I originally gave you a very strong, and possibly negative image of scorpio/pluto energy. That was on purpose. You have to understand both sides of the coin, so to speak. The only way for a person to do that, is to have the personal experience for themselves. Please understand that these things are not something that can be communicated through a book or possibly even a movie. You have to do them. Scorpio has a positive side too. Burt Lancaster in the movie "From here to Eternity" in one, and a good example.
The strongest person has the option to be kind, because in turn they are stronger than the person who is angry, The person who is angry is out of "personal control", and thus are open to be exploited. Be kind, Negative Karma is hard to pay back. You pay with your soul, so be forewarned. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 6085 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 07, 2011 11:39 AM
I gets it,Mblake ,Sweetie ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. You have to be strong enough to be gentle.Peace through strength,ALWAYS Me IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 6085 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 07, 2011 12:59 PM
Thank you VERY much for your words,Mblake. You and I did not do a 400 post thread for nothing xxxx
------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. You have to be strong enough to be gentle.Peace through strength,ALWAYS Me IP: Logged |
Mblake81 Knowflake Posts: 717 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted February 07, 2011 01:13 PM
One more thing on negative karma.Be careful, what you wish for. Be careful, what you do. ----------------- Depending on how long you have been swimming in negative energy, May very well depend on how much positive it will take to get out, usually one and a half times more (personal experience here), A very -Determined- effort is required to keep focused. I said it once, I have to say it again. Sarah McLachlan "loads" her lyrics. Fallen,
"Truth be told I've tried my best But somewhere along the way I got caught up in all there was to offer And the cost was so much more than I could bear"
Please, tell me I am not the only one that understands that.
Note: The reason I use the "Godsmack" band so much is due to the same reason. If you see the US spyplane video in my thread, at one point the pilot says " I think the term you are looking for is Godsmacked" It is supposed to remind you of that. I apologize Ami, I get frustrated when things are slowed down. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 6085 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 07, 2011 01:46 PM
We get each other Mblake.I get your heart.I get your intentions. I am the same me I always was. I just grew up a little ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. You have to be strong enough to be gentle.Peace through strength,ALWAYS Me IP: Logged |
Mblake81 Knowflake Posts: 717 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted February 07, 2011 02:49 PM
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 6085 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 07, 2011 03:00 PM
------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. You have to be strong enough to be gentle.Peace through strength,ALWAYS Me IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 6057 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 07, 2011 05:47 PM
i think the cell moving away from the probe is a natural and self-preserving response to dangerous or painful stimuli...however being angry is not the same as "moving away" and i agree with whomever said that anger clouds ones judgement and weakens their position. when you realize your feelings are just feelings, and you don't have to be run by them, THAT is power. not stuffing them, or turning off emotionally, but confronting them and seeing how much less hurtful the pain is than the FEAR of it, or the holding on to it are... IP: Logged |
Mblake81 Knowflake Posts: 717 From: Registered: Aug 2010
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posted February 07, 2011 06:22 PM
Plutosquared, linked this in another thread. It is valid here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_saUN4j7Gw IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 6085 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 08, 2011 02:44 AM
Do unto others as they do unto you...................only worse ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. You have to be strong enough to be gentle.Peace through strength,ALWAYS Me IP: Logged |
EverEvolvingSpirit Moderator Posts: 124 From: A Place of Pure Love <3 Registered: Feb 2011
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posted February 08, 2011 07:12 AM
MBlake,I Sarah Mclachlan. I just heard that song "Fallen" for the first time (for some reason I'm stuck in the 90's Sarah and not her new material) and the lyrics are pretty deep and intense IP: Logged |
rajji Knowflake Posts: 95 From: Hyderabad, A.P, India. Registered: Jan 2011
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posted February 10, 2011 01:03 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mblake81: [B]One more thing on negative karma.Be careful, what you wish for. Be careful, what you do. ----------------- blake I found this aspect in my natal chart Mars conjunct Neptune gives the ability to "dream true". If you have this aspect be very careful not to dwell on the negative, you’ll make it happen! This aspect has been associated with white witchcraft as well. It gives a talent for bending energies with the emotions and mind. what does that mean?? IP: Logged |