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Topic: If you think you're the only one that has struggles . . .
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EverEvolvingSpirit Moderator Posts: 631 From: A Place of Pure Love <3 Registered: Feb 2011
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posted March 08, 2011 09:09 PM
Please go to this site http://storycorps.org/. We are using it in school and the stories are just so heartfelt and amazing. Hard to not cry IP: Logged |
mochai Knowflake Posts: 604 From: Charon Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 09, 2011 11:27 AM
Gosh.. my dad launched into a treastise on the suffering during the disasters in the phillipines and told me that my suffering and depression was nothing, insinuating that my chronic suicidal ideation for 12 years was paltry and stupid and I shouldn't feel that way. My problems were meaningless in comparison. It made me more apathetic and emotionally numb. Thanks dad, I worked hard on being able to cry like normal people! Stories like that are great to read for compassion building though. Also, I just want to say.. there are very interesting studies on the mortality rates of early 1900's orphanages, where they said not to touch or caress the baby or it would develop attachment causing separation and trauma, not to mention infection. The ones with the strictest sanitation standards were the ones that had the highest mortality rates.. nearly 90% in some places. The people who survived were emotionally cold and unable to form real attachments for the rest of their lives. There were many emotional problems. Nowadays we call the result attachment disorder which creates a charmingly superficial but sociopathic personality. It can be cured, but it's very hard and you have to recreate the ability to have a loving attunement figure through many psychosomatic, neural reattuning through eye contact, and role playing exercises. It's almost as if without love and affection, the body loses it's will to live and stops trying. Very sad.. but most people don't have those early memories, not to mention any biological phenomena that precludes chemical imbalances in the brain, like celiac disease and hypothyroidism which both cause depression and are pretty decently common in America with the consensus being it should not be looked into first and we should go strait to the prozac. We could go into past lives traumas too. I'm saying this because the heading can be deleterious to emotional wellbeing. People should accept how they feel even if they don't know why. Suppressing it makes emotion worse and when you dissociate from your emotional wellbeing.. well guess what controls you? Compassion is healing but placing guilt on people for having emotions is not, and the "If you think you're suffering then ____" line definetely pulls off that vibe for me. And please, I mean this in a very compassionate way. I know most of us were taught to think in an invalidating way about many things. Not to take away from the thread, the site looks great. IP: Logged |
EverEvolvingSpirit Moderator Posts: 631 From: A Place of Pure Love <3 Registered: Feb 2011
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posted March 09, 2011 12:03 PM
You didn't take away from thread, baby. I welcome your words as you are VERY articulate about expressing your heart I understand and both sympathize with you IP: Logged |
mochai Knowflake Posts: 604 From: Charon Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 09, 2011 12:47 PM
Thanks for the support, and sorry I know I could have worded it better. I always like keeping my heart open as much as possible with stories like that. Thanks for posting it IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 7020 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 09, 2011 12:59 PM
My mother,always,used to tell me about kids who had nothing while she abused me. I think one must use wisdom. There is a psychological theory of minimization in which someone abuses you but then makes you feel guilty by pointing to someone worse. An abused person ,usually, feels guilty enough for their very existence,often,so one must be careful when seeing stories of people who had it "worse" That being said, it does help to reach out to others who are suffering,perhaps,worse than you are. It helps to know you are not alone in your suffering and yours was not the worst. Both avenues have merit but must be taken together,imo. to you both ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged |
EverEvolvingSpirit Moderator Posts: 631 From: A Place of Pure Love <3 Registered: Feb 2011
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posted March 09, 2011 01:22 PM
I didn't mean for anyone to think "if you had struggles, well yours ain't sh*t compared to these stories"That isn't even in my nature to say something like that as I am aware that we all handle our struggles differently. I am just saying, everyone goes through it is all. Never think you are the only one in the world that has struggles. There are many 9/11 stories there too. Of women that lost the love of their lives. I couldn't do my assignment on those particular stories because my emotions were too strong. To lose the love of your life . . . IP: Logged |
EverEvolvingSpirit Moderator Posts: 631 From: A Place of Pure Love <3 Registered: Feb 2011
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posted March 09, 2011 01:31 PM
Here is an exerpt of my assignment;If I had to do my own podcast, I’d talk about my journey through homelessness, alcoholism and depression that I endured for a large part of my twenties. At one point my life was in such a downward spiral that the only way I knew out was death. Just the idea of waking up and facing life was an extremely difficult task for me. I hated my family for not being supportive and neglecting me. I hated God for punishing me when I did absolutely nothing wrong in life. It was when the church came to the shelter one night that I told the preacher I didn’t believe in Jesus. He instructed one of the sisters to guide me. I had nothing to lose so I told her the truth. God doesn’t love me because I am bad. As she went on to tell me that everyone feels unworthy of God, but that God is unconditional love and always available to us once we reach out to him, I began to cry. I began to look at my life, not from a Christian standpoint, but a spiritual one. I will not say that my life changed overnight, but, I will say, with spiritual awareness, huge changes in life are possible and anything you desire in this life are possible. I had to learn that I had to make an inner change and a conscious decision to be happy in this life. I often think about the women I lived with in the homeless shelter. I wonder what became of them and begin to feel sad and worried. Some of the women were beautiful souls and as good as gold and deserved so much happiness, but, due to unfortunate circumstances, have given up in life. I am blessed that I had the strength to survive. Since that difficult journey in my life I have learned to never judge anyone no matter what they appear to be, . IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 7020 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 09, 2011 01:37 PM
Beautiful writing EES .You are a wonderful writer. ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged |
EverEvolvingSpirit Moderator Posts: 631 From: A Place of Pure Love <3 Registered: Feb 2011
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posted March 09, 2011 01:39 PM
Thank you This is an example of my life experiences helping me with my writing, I got a 98 on my "How To" assignment!!! IP: Logged |
mochai Knowflake Posts: 604 From: Charon Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 09, 2011 02:39 PM
I agree. You write your story so beautifully. It takes a lot of strength for a person to go through that. Also, I don't think it was about different avenues. I think it's beneficial to read those stories and develop empathy. I've heard the idea of bringing up common suffering as a means of healing in therapy, particularly in dialectical behavior therapy, but the therapists I talked to didn't feel like it was too successful or helpful. Maybe it can be with some people but I could never make out how or why. It might be the focus that's weird to me. IP: Logged |
EverEvolvingSpirit Moderator Posts: 631 From: A Place of Pure Love <3 Registered: Feb 2011
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posted March 09, 2011 02:52 PM
Thank you, Mochai IP: Logged |
EverEvolvingSpirit Moderator Posts: 631 From: A Place of Pure Love <3 Registered: Feb 2011
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posted March 09, 2011 03:07 PM
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 7020 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 09, 2011 03:12 PM
*I*,100% do not agree with dialectical therapy. My experience with cognitive therapies is that they can make people worse. I think therapy can be VERY dangerous. Here is why--people down deep feel the same or even worse. Then, they give up cuz they feel they tried everything. *I* think the only thing that works in a real ,true,gut level way is Right brain therapy which unblocks trauma. Sorry for the hijak. If you want to discus it ,more, Mochai,start a new thread ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged |
mochai Knowflake Posts: 604 From: Charon Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 09, 2011 05:36 PM
No, it's okay. Thanks for saying that. I put too much faith in psychologists sometimes and the statistics were decent for dbt, and that's all I could ever see anyone obsessing over.. like there wasn't anything else lol (maybe that should have been a warning). I used to be more worried about things like forum etiquette really.. i've relaxed a bit.. are there specific therapies I can google that you do recommend? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 7020 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 09, 2011 06:42 PM
Yes I like Primal Therapy by Janov just as a way to see WHAT has to be healed. Then ---look up healing right brain ways to heal trauma ------------------ Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 6604 From: The Goober Galaxy Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 11, 2011 07:06 PM
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EverEvolvingSpirit Moderator Posts: 631 From: A Place of Pure Love <3 Registered: Feb 2011
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posted March 12, 2011 04:09 AM
Did you really just make another Facebook account to send me stupid messages in the middle of the night? Then block me?I've just expressed to LL that I wish to be drama free do me a favor and stay FAR away from me, lady. You thrive on drama and negativity. I'm done with it. This will be my last message to you, PERIOD. I have too many priorities in life than to feed into your malicious games. I am sorry for even trusting you as I did because I've noticed I'm not the first person you've crapped on. Please don't bother me again. IP: Logged |
rajji Knowflake Posts: 435 From: Registered: Jan 2011
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posted March 12, 2011 04:51 AM
EES...your excerpt was so touching!IP: Logged |
EverEvolvingSpirit Moderator Posts: 631 From: A Place of Pure Love <3 Registered: Feb 2011
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posted March 12, 2011 05:24 AM
Thank you, Rajji IP: Logged |
EverEvolvingSpirit Moderator Posts: 631 From: A Place of Pure Love <3 Registered: Feb 2011
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posted March 12, 2011 07:33 AM
I'm sorry for even ruining my thread like this because of some kiddie bullsh*t DO NOT mess with me, I am NOT the one IP: Logged |