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Ami Anne
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posted December 08, 2011 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I mean, emotional.

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LEXX
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posted December 08, 2011 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The emotional pain and numbness alternate and or overlay each other.
They both leave me unable to deal with things well or even talk about things or find the optimism and energy to even try >again<
because experience to date has taught me it/things will fail no matter how hard I try or do, or how good,
so why bother.
I just want to hibernate and sleep until things improve
or if not..............

PS.
Yes I am still uber gloomy.
I use the 24 hour rule to keep from offing myself.
I must wait 24 hours before doing so when in a gloom and ready to do it.

And this quote says it well:

quote:
The thought of suicide is a powerful solace: by means of it one gets through many a bad night.
~Friedrich Nietzsche

And some 90% of my nights are bad.
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I must perhaps resign myself to having only stolen and brief tastes of happiness,
for it appears that I may never be invited to the feasts.
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The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation. What is called resignation is confirmed desperation A stereotyped but unconscious despair is concealed even under what are called the games and amusements of mankind.
~Henry David Thoreau

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LEXX
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posted December 08, 2011 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Numb is more dangerous I think.
How I see its stages:
1.
emotional pain/turmoil
2.
numbness
3.
apathy
4.
resignation
5.
uber recluse/agoraphobic
6.
suicide

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I must perhaps resign myself to having only stolen and brief tastes of happiness,
for it appears that I may never be invited to the feasts.
~LEXX

The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation. What is called resignation is confirmed desperation A stereotyped but unconscious despair is concealed even under what are called the games and amusements of mankind.
~Henry David Thoreau

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Alma Sun
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posted December 08, 2011 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alma Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd rather have pain. I was numbed by an anti-depressant in my teen years (maybe the dosage was too high? After all, it wasn't prescribed for me..) and it was the most emptying feeling of all. Pain (emotional) isn't so bad as feeling nothing at all.

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Ami Anne
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posted December 08, 2011 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have given in to pain instead of numbness. It feels much better. I can, actually, feel "myself", if you know what I mean and I am sure you do!

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posted December 08, 2011 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I have given in to pain instead of numbness. It feels much better. I can, actually, feel "myself", if you know what I mean and I am sure you do!


Yes,
pain is the lesser of the two evils so to speak.
Trouble is;
the emotional and the physical pain has gone on too long.
In the past two years it has all become worse.
So both emotional numbness(and incurable physical numbness episodes/and some permanent, in various parts), zombie, stare off into space, lost, defeated, etc., has taken deep root.
Oh yes, there are joys, but very short lived bursts of such,
then wham, as always the "shoes drop" one way or other and my future barring a real series of miracles, looks grim and unrewarding.
I shall keep employing the 24 hour no rash actions,
force myself to keep posting,
because I feel if I bail,
folks will be angry with me,
feel I let them down in some way.
But I am so damn exhausted and emotionally/psychologically drained most of the time.
On that note,
going to go pull my emotion chip out for awhile, stare, sleep, zone, bleh.

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Ami Anne
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posted December 08, 2011 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, the pain is a relief. My heart feels like it is literally broken.It hurts like a fire but I can feel who I am, more.

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posted December 08, 2011 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Actually, the pain is a relief. My heart feels like it is literally broken.It hurts like a fire but I can feel who I am, more.


Yes,
but only if one is not continuing to be bombarded by the pain and given no time or time out to heal or at least scar.

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posted December 09, 2011 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Because of my condition, I often automatically click into numbness (dissociation) when pain gets overwhelming.

I make the most progress toward healing through the pain though.
When I see it to the end, which I can do if it doesn't overwhelm me, I can close the wound and reconcile.

At the same time though, the numbness is a cognitive protective mechanism. If it doesn't click in, which it sometimes doesn't, I spiral into meltdown and end up ruining my life. This has happened several times throughout my life. The numbness can also lead me to harming myself just to feel something. So, it's a catch-22 really.

(P.S. Ami, without publicly going into detail, I would like to apologise for my response on your other thread. I had no business saying what I did in that circumstance. I am sorry.)

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Ami Anne
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posted December 09, 2011 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ami Anne
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posted December 09, 2011 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is my current state with this. When I allow pain in, which I have, I need someone to whom I can be totally real, no masks, no hiding. Then, I can cry and the pain will go away. Then, the cycle needs to build up, again. Each time, I empty out trauma, permanently, though. Read the book Cure By Crying by Stone if you are interested in the process.

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posted December 09, 2011 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neither, I've had well enough of both. I've been ready to experience "happy" for a good while now.

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LEXX
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posted December 09, 2011 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I need someone to whom I can be totally real, no masks, no hiding. Then, I can cry and the pain will go away. <<<<<<<<<<<<<




Exactly.
Hard to find that though when trust is not there and or one has gone into their dismal/numb avoidance place.
And what if the problem(s) is/are not able to be resolved ever?
Or resolved (if possible?)
anytime soon?
What then?


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posted December 09, 2011 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Neither, I've had well enough of both. I've been ready to experience "happy" for a good while now.


Me too dear teasel. {{{hugs}}}

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Ami Anne
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posted December 09, 2011 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LEXX:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[b] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I need someone to whom I can be totally real, no masks, no hiding. Then, I can cry and the pain will go away. <<<<<<<<<<<<<




Exactly.
Hard to find that though when trust is not there and or one has gone into their dismal/numb avoidance place.
And what if the problem(s) is/are not able to be resolved ever?
Or resolved (if possible?)
anytime soon?
What then?

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Yes, that very rare person is a gift from God. Alice Miller would call it an Enlightened Witness. I have one, now. It just happened, as these things must. Once can't force them.

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SensibleHeart
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posted January 16, 2012 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SensibleHeart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
pain. i feel like numbness is just suspended animation; like, akin to procrastination.

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posted January 18, 2012 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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